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Ask Internet Icon Alex Chiu

Roblimo posted more than 13 years ago | from the eternal-life-can-be-yours dept.

The Internet 272

Many people have scorned and laughed at Thomas A. Edison, Albert Einstein, and Nikola Tesla, it says on Alex Chiu's famous Web site, where Alex explains the mysteries of the universe, tells us how we can make the future better, and offers immortality (for a very reasonable price) through his patented immortality devices. Alex has enough of a following among Slashdot readers (and editors) that when I posted a two-line comment saying I'd ask him to do a Slashdot interview if I got 10 requests by email, I got lots more than that. So here we go! One question per post, please. We'll forward 10 of the highest-moderated questions to Alex on Monday, and post his answers as soon as we get them back.

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mortality rings (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#183986)

I wonder if mortality rings would sell...

The Best Alex Chiu interview is already online (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#183987)

Fade to Black Comedy Magazine did a great interview with Alex a while back. Well worth the read. Very Funny stuff.

Fade to Black Alex Chiu Interview [fadetoblack.com]

Re:Okay Alex, here's one... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#183988)

"Tell us then, Why do you think no medical experts come forth to do studies on your devices or reccomend their use?"

You are obviously an ignorant non-believer in the great Alex. If the medical experts convince people to buy these rings, then nobody will get sick or die anymore, and that would put them all out of a job. It is quite plain to see that those quack "doctors" will try to dismiss these incredibly wonderful devices as "pseudoscience", but you will have to pry MY Immortality Rings off my cold, dead fingers...wait...um...

Question One (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#183991)

Who the fuck thinks of you as an icon?

I don't.

Re:Question (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#183992)

Quick question sir: Why does your product only have a ninety day warranty? Are you saying that your devices are less reliable than a Hyundai?

hey, alex chiu (5)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#183993)

hey, alex chiu,

you cite edison, tesla and einstein as people who were "laughed and scorned at," presumably as parallel figures to yourself, but we can't help noticing that you're sort of missing something. edison, tesla and einstein were great scientists who, through a thorough and accurate understanding of the best scientific learning of their day, applied existing principles in groundbreaking and unexpected ways to advance contemporary physics. you, however, are applying your ignorance and lack of understanding of high-school level science - skimming through textbooks, parrot-learning words like "unique frequency," "magnetic flux" and "negative charge" - and producing your own bastardized version of contemporary science via the tried and tested method of 'just making shit up.'

you seem to be mesmerised, rabbit-in-headlamps style, by the magical idea of magnetism. apparently you're an intelligent enough guy, but please for your own magnetic god's sake educate yourself on the basic concepts of science, starting with the other three fundamental forces (or is it two? unification is so awkward!). cells don't cluster together because of magnetism. animals don't run from danger because they are "repelled by the negative energy." hey, maybe some form of teleportation will be possible in the future, but chances are it won't be courtesy of the fantastically well-thought-out "transmitting the unique frequency of an object." a quick vote amongst ourselves decided that gravity isn't caused by static electricity when the earth's core rubs against the crust, and as a race we're fairly certain that the sun isn't hot because of friction between its "layers". while you appear to be sure that you're pioneering, pushing the edge of science and coming up with fascinating and groundbreaking new ideas, it might be prudent to base your fantastic new theories on intelligent observation and existing science (as edison, tesla and einstein all did), rather than just gazing into space and pulling things out of your eternally-young ass. so the sun produces heat via some kind of "rubbing" process rather than nuclear fusion, mm? do you have some empirical evidence for this astounding revelation - which would be required to counteract the huge body of proof and data accumulated over the years for what we'll call the 'Enemy Theory' - or are you (all together now) just making shit up?

how a ufo works? hey, man, slow down! why not read up on how a gyroscope works? why don't you make one and try it out for yourself? it doesn't "defy gravity," it's not magic or magnetic or anything else even approaching alliterative mysticism. no, seriously. trust us on this one. it precesses, resisting any force that tries to tilt its axis of rotation. this is simple - honestly! we'll use italics! - simple newtonian physics; a gyroscope only "defies gravity" when it has something against which to exert a force. an unsupported spinning object will just drop like a stone unless it has astounding aerodynamic properties (which isn't what you're talking about) - try it for yourself! um, with a plate, or something! unless you've got some kind of inbred aversion to deduction by empirical observation!

we could go through your site and identify countless other examples; you're not being groundbreaking, you're not an eccentric genius of science who's thinking in new ways that nobody else would even consider. you're just blinkered and wrong and obsessed with making huge sweeping deductions from your own misguided half-cooked internal reasoning processes. which is a pity, because your conviction and dedication to your ideas is admirable. it just makes us sad - and moderately angry - to see an entire site dedicated essentially to stupidity; advocating and glorifying the practice of ignoring intelligent deduction and observation, promoting ignorance, and shamelessly condoning the attitude that if you can blindly concoct enough unfounded shit in your head, independently of any evidence or informed reasoning, it'll become true if you close your eyes and say you believe in fairies.

feel free to respond - whenever the mood of your flux allows.

Don't you fear for your safety? (5)

alewando (854) | more than 13 years ago | (#183994)

A discovery as important as yours will not go unnoticed, especially as you publicize it as far and wide as you have in seeking to earn your capitalist profit as is your god-given American right (rooted in the 5th, 14th, and 10th amendments of THE CONSTITUTION). The only question is, who (or should I say "Who"?) will do the noticing?

Government agencies and secret police forces are your first threat, as they are for every righteous individual in this orwellian world of thought police and governmental indoctrination. No government can turn a blind eye to something as fundamentally anti-government as an immortality device. It may be too late for them to make Stalin or Roosevelt (there is no difference) immortal, since they died during the era where man did not interfere with GOD'S wish that we live and then DIE. But it is not too late for CLINTON or BLAIR or any other Liberal deity, and they certainly don't want you to have it in any event.

But the threats to your safety aren't confined to this planet alone. The alien races that populate our solar system and beyond may possess technology superior in every way to our own, but they have not yet perfected immortality. (I know this only through Divine providence and what I have witnessed with my own eyes: an elaborate Alien burial ceremony deep within the UN complex on sovereign American territory.) Your device would be of great help to their intergalactic conquests, and though they may respect you as a man of science, you are but one small pawn on a small blue planet in an undusted corner of their empire.

Be forewarned, cher Alex. Your continued safety is of the utmost importance to the survival of free Americans and the human race (excluding communists). Lead us to the promised land, but tread carefully. They are watching.

Do fundamentalists impede on your work? (5)

defile (1059) | more than 13 years ago | (#183995)

Perhaps your only rival on the internet is Gene Ray, the man who discovered Nature's Harmonic Simultaneous 4-day Time Cube [timecube.com] .

Despite the fact that his work contradicts much of your research, he also faces similar obstacles in having his work accepted or at least evaluated. No "institution" of higher education will even return his calls. I spoke to him via phone recently, and Mr. Ray believes that this is because they're run by fundamentalists engaged in some kind of conspiracy to keep the truth away from the public. He was understandably very frustrated by this.

I can't help but to wonder if other scientists face the same problems. Can you offer a correlating viewpoint? In your efforts to have your work accepted, or at least taken seriously, do you find that fundementalists are a large obstacle? If so, do you believe that this is out of their own ignorance, or that maybe they do in fact have a sinister motive as Mr. Ray suggests?

Thank you for your time.

and ads on exit... (1)

Hitch (1361) | more than 13 years ago | (#183997)

he's certainly charging enough for the foot braces...
I like the idea of donating money to a charity to get them. I'd almost go ahead and do that.
but he's got pop-up ads when you leave the site.
that sort of thing always makes me doubt the veracity of the information withing...it's sort of a "we know you won't come back, so here' my last ditch way to get you to give me some money!"
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All that glitters has a high refractive index.

Re:Immortality (1)

Hitch (1361) | more than 13 years ago | (#183998)

well, at least in this case you can always just take off the rings. or give a pair to your friends. and you don't even have to become a vampire! "hm...I think I need a few more years on me to look more dignified...maybe I'll just wear them every other night for a while.."
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All that glitters has a high refractive index.

magnets have been used like this before... (5)

Hitch (1361) | more than 13 years ago | (#184000)

magnets have been around in this manner for many years - new age style people, etc. have been encouraging the use of magnets on the feet and hands for as long as I can remember. why is your way better, why didn't theirs work, and what proof and facts do you have? your website was not very forthcoming on that last issue, though you claimed to have both.
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All that glitters has a high refractive index.

Re:Immortality (2)

armb (5151) | more than 13 years ago | (#184008)

> Assuming I were to live forever, why should I want to?

"Personally, I've been hearing all my life about the Serious Philosophical Issues posed by life extension, and my attitude has always been that I'm willing to grapple with those issues for as many centuries as it takes." - Patrick Nielsen Hayden, rec.arts.sf.fandom

But seriously, it's not compulsary, and even if his rings worked you could take them off when you had enough.

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Sounds like a Monty Python Sketch (1)

BoBG (9969) | more than 13 years ago | (#184011)

Is it just me or do Alex Chiu's "discoveries" sound like they were cut from a Monty Python sketch? Read his description of how to build a teleporter and tell me it doesn't sound just like:

"Well, first of all become a doctor and discover a marvellous cure for something, and then, when the medical profession really starts to take notice of you, you can jolly well tell them what to do and make sure they get everything right so there'll never be any diseases ever again." -Monty Pythons Flying Circus

I guess my question for Alex is: Are you trying to start a new comedy troupe?

What do you have against Taiwan? (2)

Raptor CK (10482) | more than 13 years ago | (#184012)

Out of personal curiosity, I noticed that on one of your pages, you state that you "wish China will one day take Taiwan back, peacefully or by force, at any cost!" Why is that? I can understand fierce national pride, after all, I am from the US.

It still irks me to see what amounts to little more utter racism on your site, even more so from someone with aspirations towards immortality. Is this really what we want for our future? Can you honestly stand by those beliefs, knowing that any application of immortality combined with that kind of narrowmindedness would eventually leave us in a world of people who all think and act in the exact same way?

I suppose the real question breaks down to: What exactly do you have against Taiwan to such an extent that you would attempt to deny an entire nation a chance at (supposed) immortality?


Raptor

Bozo (2)

Col. Klink (retired) (11632) | more than 13 years ago | (#184013)

Are you aware that, in addition to Edison, Einstein and Tesla, people also laughed at Bozo the Clown?

Suggestion for Next Interview (1)

SimJockey (13967) | more than 13 years ago | (#184016)

I think the next target for Slashdot's hard hitting brand of journalism should be Gene Ray, the Timecube [timecube.com] guy.

One very simple question for Alex Chiu (1)

Phil Karn (14620) | more than 13 years ago | (#184017)

How come you aren't in jail for fraud?

Re:Do we need to do this? (1)

R3 (15929) | more than 13 years ago | (#184019)

I agree. Kinda reminds me of poking fun at mumbling hobos or agents of the Lord (tm) on street corners.

I have done nothing, can I get my free rings now? (1)

ChrisKnight (16039) | more than 13 years ago | (#184021)

I have done nothing, can I get my free rings now?

Sure your comment is offtopic (1)

Shoeboy (16224) | more than 13 years ago | (#184022)

But it's also the story of my life. I think I'll go sob to myself in a corner now. --Shoeboy

Improved Immortality Device (2)

austad (22163) | more than 13 years ago | (#184034)

I have made a modification to Alex Chiu's device which will bring this mainstream. Everyone will feel like they are in heaven.

Basically, it consist of a small brass cylinder with a contact explosive at one end (we'll call it a "primer"), then the cylinder is filled with shredded nitrocellulose cord (we'll call this "smokeless powder"), and the magnetic device is then friction fit into the end of the cylinder sealing in the "smokeless powder". You then purchase my BFG-GLOCK17 Immortality Insertion device for around $450US (after the mandatory 2 week waiting period), and insert the brass cylinder into the chamber. To operate the device, you take the end of the BFG-GLOCK17, and insert the open end of it into your mouth, and point it upward towards the roof of your mouth. When you pull the trigger, the magnetic device is propelled upwards and implanted within your brain, it's very painless.

By implanting the magnetic device within your brain, it will better control the magnetic flux of your body, and it will seem like you are in heaven.

Internet Icon (1)

Baloo Ursidae (29355) | more than 13 years ago | (#184040)

Internet Icon...you mean what puts me on AOL?

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Brad Pitt's character in Se7en. (1)

GoNINzo (32266) | more than 13 years ago | (#184043)

When a person is insane, as you clearly are, do you know that you're insane? Maybe you're just sitting around, reading Guns & Ammo, masturbating, in your own feces...do you just stop and go, 'WOW! It is amazing how fucking crazy I really am.

--
Gonzo Granzeau

Have you ever read... (2)

joshamania (32599) | more than 13 years ago | (#184044)

Why People Believe Weird Things [amazon.com] ?

Immortality devices? What is your scientific proof? Scientific, not pseudo-scientific. You are a charlatan, sir.

Re:He's a phoney !! (1)

VP (32928) | more than 13 years ago | (#184046)

But what really gives this guy away is that "there can be only one" [immortal] and everybody knows Connor McLeod has already won, so the guy must be a phoney.
I bet he is, or Connor would've kicked his butt long ago. I reckon ...


No, no, no - it is Duncan McLeod who is left now - Connor sacrificed himself so that their combined strength would defeat the bad immortal...

You are right about the ass-kicking, though...

90 days? (3)

Guttata (35478) | more than 13 years ago | (#184048)

Alex, your web page states:

"If you are not satisfied with the products, you have 90 days to refund them"

How am I supposed to know within 90 days if the immortality ring works?

Re:hey, alex chiu (2)

macpeep (36699) | more than 13 years ago | (#184050)

Yes - and what's even more sad is that a lot of people seem to be buying all the crap, judging from the "testimonials". Scary!

*uncontrolable giggles* (1)

klocwerk (48514) | more than 13 years ago | (#184056)

Oh, oh!
Ask him exactly how his immortality device works!

Whoops, redundant already. (1)

klocwerk (48514) | more than 13 years ago | (#184057)

Sorry, posted at the same time I guess. ;o)

Re:Immortality (2)

Saige (53303) | more than 13 years ago | (#184059)

Assuming I were to live forever, why should I want to? As many tales have been written, one grows weary of seeing friends come and go and children age and die.

Umm... unlike all the fictional stories, if by some freak of nature his promise of immortality were true (or other means that may be arriving sooner and have a better chance of being true), your family and friends can also join in on the immortality thing, and you won't HAVE to see them age and die.

Besides, if you really do get tired of life, there's no reason you can't go and kill yourself, now is there? If you really think 50-100 years is enough for a human life, then by all means, you can go ahead and life that way. I, on the other hand, would much much prefer to have a little more say in when my time comes to a halt. I see thousands of years worth of technology in the future that I want to be around to see and experience.
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Here's one (2)

Illserve (56215) | more than 13 years ago | (#184064)

Why the hell do you have popup adds on your site that crash IE and force me to end-task it?

grumble

WTF?!? (3)

Stephen VanDahm (88206) | more than 13 years ago | (#184079)

Can't y'all find someone better to interview? The only insightful thing this guy could share with us is how he managed to rip off the patent system. And we already know how that works.

Have y'all been h4x0r3d again?


========
Stephen C. VanDahm

Immortality = Protection from EVERYTHING? (1)

Trinity-Infinity (91335) | more than 13 years ago | (#184081)

Hi Alex -
You were on The Daily Show awhile back, weren't you? If I'm recalling right, you were very entertaining on the show :)

However, I wanted to know that your rings provide imortality, right? Well.... all debates about the scientific properties aside, exactly 'how immortal' do your rings make their wearers?

Merriam-Webster [m-w.com] defines immortality as an unending existence, being exempt from death, or being exempt from oblivion . If your rings provided that quality - how do you postulate the future conditions of the earth, and your ring-wearers' ability to survive in less-than-ideal conditions? Extreme cold? Lack of food? Toxic atmosphere? By Webster's definition of immortality, I would imagine being able to do all the things Superman does - tunnel through the earth, fly around the sun, hang out in the Fortress of Solitude... well, maybe not that last one, but you get what I'm saying.

How do your rings account for these extreme conditions, assuming that they will 'prevent death'?

Short and to the point (2)

vaxer (91962) | more than 13 years ago | (#184083)

"...The HELL?!"

oh crap, he's right! (1)

cheezus (95036) | more than 13 years ago | (#184086)

Only Alex Chiu has the solution to a unified world, unless you can think of a better one.

Oh my god! I can't! That means you must be right!

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The ultimate question (2)

zpengo (99887) | more than 13 years ago | (#184089)

Alex, why would you (or anyone else) want to live forever; i.e., What are the pros and cons of eternal life?

Free samples (4)

zpengo (99887) | more than 13 years ago | (#184090)

Have you given free samples to people who you think ought to live forever, and if so, who are those people?

I have beaten your device! (3)

Tom7 (102298) | more than 13 years ago | (#184093)

Alex: I have a superior device. My device allows a person to live forever -- twice. (It is made of stronger magnets.) How can I collect my prize?

How old are you? (1)

pravel (112978) | more than 13 years ago | (#184100)

How old are you Mr. 'immortal' Chiu ?

Here's a semi-serious one. (2)

Alkaiser (114022) | more than 13 years ago | (#184101)

Hey Alex, since you have all this free time due to your newfound immortality, what are you spending it on?

Who t.f. (1)

frost22 (115958) | more than 13 years ago | (#184102)

Who t.f. is Alex Chiu ?

f.

Would your knowledge keep growing? (1)

malfunct (120790) | more than 13 years ago | (#184105)

One of the common reasons a person desires to live forever is to keep learning. Do you think if a person had a limitless amount of time that they would be able to learn a limitless amount of information? or do you think that there is a capacity on the amount of knowledge a single person can possess?

you should interview my friend (1)

moojin (124799) | more than 13 years ago | (#184109)

you should interview my friend, dave, check out his web site: http://members.home.net/djaeger8/

Re:hey, alex chiu (1)

ghassanm (130547) | more than 13 years ago | (#184113)

You will definately not be the first person Alex Chiu revives from the dead! Aha! You posted as an AC so we couldn't identify you... very clever. We'll find out who you are. All we have to do is put two magnets on your head. They will repell eachother if your not a believer.

If You Can Keep A Human Living Forever... (3)

istartedi (132515) | more than 13 years ago | (#184115)

...how come your website can't survive the /. effect for 15 minutes?

Re:hey, alex chiu (2)

don_carnage (145494) | more than 13 years ago | (#184124)

In a word: Wow.
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Re:Uhm...duh. (1)

deglr6328 (150198) | more than 13 years ago | (#184126)

A keen grasp of the obvious I see. Yeah, everyone here already knows he's a quack promoting pseudoscientific/fraudulent merchandise. It's supposed to be taken as a joke, lighten up. Ask why he didn't use his immortality rings to save mother Theresa or something. It's meant to be funny!

Is this serious? (3)

Glowing Fish (155236) | more than 13 years ago | (#184130)

If this is not serious, it is just mean.

If the Slashdot readers and editors think this guy is serious, then I wonder about them.

If they think he is delusional, then asking him questions hoping to get funny asnwers is mean.

And if he is a fraud, then interviewing him is not the way to expose him.

Re:Hey Alex! (1)

_xeno_ (155264) | more than 13 years ago | (#184131)

[Post:] I want to spend the rest of my (eternal) life with someone like you.

[Sig:] Before you ask, I already have a boyfriend and he's more of a man than you'll ever be.

Hmm.... I think I have to ask...

Re:Question One (5)

IronChef (164482) | more than 13 years ago | (#184138)


This has got to be an all-time low for the site.

(If we're interviewing nutbars, I would rather see an interview with the Timecube.com guy.)

Immortality Rings (4)

proxima (165692) | more than 13 years ago | (#184140)

Have you ever ruined any disks (floppy, hard disks, etc) or other media (VHS tape, etc) with your immortality rings? Have anyone ever told you that they did? Do you have insurance against lawsuits?

Immortality or Immorality? (1)

plastickiwi (170800) | more than 13 years ago | (#184141)

Alex,

I'd like to inquire about an issue your web site doesn't seem to cover: the potentially devastating effects of the Immortality Device on our nation's system of jurisprudence.

Follow with me here. The Supreme Court has held that every inmate in an American prison has a Constitutional right to effective medical treatment. Your Immortality Device is, obviously, the most effective form of medical treatment, as it prevents death itself. Ergo, prisoners have the right to be treated with the Immortality Device.

Now, the theory of incarceration is based upon the assumption that we all have only a short time to live, and therefore we fear losing our freedom, and with it, a span of the precious years allotted to us.

When everyone is immortal, who will fear imprisonment? We are already plagued by criminals who don't fear a five- or even ten-year prison sentence; how will we control them when a decade behind bars seems like a short vacation?

How do you respond to the charge that, far from being humanity's savior, you are in fact ushering us into a dark age of horrifying submission to an army of immortal killers, rapists, arsonists and pot smokers?

Damned Smart Filter (2)

Copperhead (187748) | more than 13 years ago | (#184147)

His site is blocked by SmartFilter at work, saying the site is a "cult or occult" website. Interesting that SmartFilter is aware of something that the slashdot editors can't seem to grasp.

A quote: (1)

tomknight (190939) | more than 13 years ago | (#184149)

"If my Eternal Life Device does not give immortality, then the entire bible is a joke."

Is this supposed to make us believe in the power of your ring?

Tom.

Trolling for attention? (1)

Honclfibr (202246) | more than 13 years ago | (#184156)

Do you honestly believe all the things you say on your website, or is the entire thing a brilliant troll?

Honestly, you've had millions of visitors to your site looking at "immortality rings" and other nonsense which is clearly based entirely out of ideas you made up in your head with not one shred of evidence to support them (this has been exhausted by previous posts, so I won't belabor the point).

Don't you think that now is the perfect opportunity to expose your site as a plot for attention and website hits, so we can all laugh at ourselves for being suckers and congratulate you for snookering us?

Immortality (3)

onion2k (203094) | more than 13 years ago | (#184157)

From the 'philosophy' pages of your site I quote 'You don't need to have children anymore because you stay young forever'. Do you not feel that there is a bit more to living than simply eating and breathing? Your pages imply that once we've cracked health and farming we're sorted from there on in. Don't we need some sort of goal or ambition? Isn't a common goal to procreate? Do we spend the rest of eternity wearing rings and writing Perl?

The cost of immortality (4)

onion2k (203094) | more than 13 years ago | (#184158)

Alex, if your device were ever to prove true in the eyes of the medical profession, do you feel that a patent is suffient defense against some corporation (or perhaps government) taking control and only allowing their view of the 'right people' to have one? Could your device spark a forth reich, a new 'master race', immortals versus mortals?

What following? (1)

DigitalDreg (206095) | more than 13 years ago | (#184161)

I'm sorry, what following does this guy have? He looks like a crackpot to me.

Right up there with magnetic water softeners.

Huh??? (1)

smnolde (209197) | more than 13 years ago | (#184162)

Which comet is flying near Earth now?? My usual, reliable news outlets haven't mentioned anything.

He's a phoney !! (1)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 13 years ago | (#184163)

Everybody knows immortals [4.43.132.133] carry big-ass swords around, chop off other immortals' heads in a thunder of lightning and don't wear silly rings.

But what really gives this guy away is that "there can be only one" [immortal] and everybody knows Connor McLeod has already won, so the guy must be a phoney.
I bet he is, or Connor would've kicked his butt long ago. I reckon ...

Laughable (1)

Planesdragon (210349) | more than 13 years ago | (#184165)

I didn't think Slashdot would fall for this. Bad HTML, pseduo-science that doesn't even begin to follow the scientific method...

If I didn't see the link from slashdot myself, I would have ignored this site just like I do any other half-baked philosiphy site. But with a Slashdot link... now I'm worried.

Re:Pseudo-Science (1)

skoda (211470) | more than 13 years ago | (#184166)

That immortal 19 year old boy doesn't look a day over 40. Perhaps his rings need to be tweaked further.
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D. Fischer

Website design, popups, and open ring design (2)

Sheepdot (211478) | more than 13 years ago | (#184167)

I've noticed that your site seems to lack some design elements that might make it seem more attractive and less like a "scam" as many have assumed. Do you have any plans for redoing the site design?

I've also noticed that you have an amazing number of advertisments and popups, that add to the "scam" feel that hits the user as they first enter the site. Do you have any plans to change the way you do advertising on the webiste?

And lastly, I've found a page [alexchiu.com] that lists how people can make their own rings. Do you think that this open way of letting people make their own rings may somehow affect your sales?

Maybe my high school physics teacher was wrong! (1)

Rudeboy777 (214749) | more than 13 years ago | (#184168)

Alex,

If what you say is true, would moving into a house directly beneath power wires be to my advantage? The houses are cheap, and the electromagnetism is free of charge! (pardeon the pun)

Enlightenment please... (1)

Rudeboy777 (214749) | more than 13 years ago | (#184169)

Alex,

In the "How to Bring Global Peace" section of your website (http://alexchiu.com/philosophy/corp.htm - readers please visit this page, the future of our world may depend on it), did the child who drew the crayon pictures suffer from Tourette's Syndrome? Or was it simply crippling mental retardation.

Also I can't quite comprehend the significance of the "upside down flying staircase" in the first picture. Could you please clarify what you were trying to express with this imagery?

Re:a;xlkfj (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 13 years ago | (#184173)

Ann Landers does that to you, also, eh?

For me, it's this woman of wiles. [natalieportman.com]

Btw, were you to achieve immortality, do you think this would be a recurring problem?

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Re:Immortality (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 13 years ago | (#184174)

Interesting points.

Also, you might want to consider faith based views on killing one's self.

I consider myself, not without some irony, fortunate to have seen my own mortality back in 1986. The experience crystalized my view that it's the quality of one's life that matters, not the quantity.

As for magnets, special diets, living in a bunker away from harmful radiation and breathing purified air, etc. etc. etc. That just doesn't sound like much in the quality department. Sounds ... kinda like Michael Jackson's life, no?

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Why people fall for these things (!) (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 13 years ago | (#184175)

Hope is a powerful motivator. To some it's the ejoyment of the dream of actually achieving it. Like seeing a film, however, when it's over I hope the price of admission didn't turn out to be unreasonable.

Alone and bored, on a thirtieth century night.
Will I see you on the Price is Right?
--Barenaked Ladies, It's all been done

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Re:Pseudo-Science (2)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 13 years ago | (#184176)

Oh, you can slow the process of aging, but what's the point? Life has been very exciting during the last few years, particularly as often as it flashes before my eyes, with any luck, it'll continue to rocket along until I don't notice it's over. (c=

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Immortality (5)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 13 years ago | (#184178)

Assuming I were to live forever, why should I want to? As many tales have been written, one grows weary of seeing friends come and go and children age and die. It's a heavy burden, what's there to counter balance this need for immortality, other than simple fear of death?

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Testing of your immortality devices (5)

w.p.richardson (218394) | more than 13 years ago | (#184180)

Alex,

Have you ever tested your immortality devices in terminally ill patients in a double blinded placebo controlled study. For example, have you recruited a cohort of cancer patients, applied a randomization technique whereby one group gets your device(s) and the other receives similar, yet inactive rings and braclets? Certainly, if your products provide immortality then none of the subjects in the active group would die. With that amount of statistical power, it would be simple and relatively cheap to demonstrate your claims.

Regards,
W.P.

Do we need to do this? (1)

dave cutler (222400) | more than 13 years ago | (#184181)

It just isn't funny to make fun of the mentally ill. This man is either a fraud, in which case giving him any exposure is a bad idea, or, more likely, simply delusional. Leave the poor man alone. Laugh at him in private if you must, but there is really no need to hold him up to public ridicule.

Eternal Life... (1)

Microsift (223381) | more than 13 years ago | (#184182)

At least until someone cuts off your head!

Question. (1)

3-State Bit (225583) | more than 13 years ago | (#184183)

Which immortality device [alexchiu.com] (Immortality Rings or Immortality Foot Braces) has proved more effective? How do you judge their effectiveness, given that most people probably use both? How do you know that one of them doesn't in fact not contribute at all? Some statistics would be appreciated.
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Don't do it people!!!! (1)

3-State Bit (225583) | more than 13 years ago | (#184184)

How would you feel if you had to LIVE IN HEAVEN ETERNALLY WEARING A FOOT BRACE??? If you use this device you'll have to!! Because if you live forever wearing this thing, THIS IS your heaven!!!
And even if you DO die, Scientology is inconclusive about whether your heavenly body will REFLECT whatever you were wearing when you died, as the Pharoas of Egypt were told by the Aliens. And even if it turns out we live in the Matrix, after you've worn it for years the brace would become part of your residual self-image. Either way you're screwed. Don't do it people!!!!



This is a joke. It makes fun of zealotry. Don't find it funny? Move on.
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Questions. (4)

3-State Bit (225583) | more than 13 years ago | (#184185)

Well I went to order [alexchiu.com] one of these things, and was met at the top with the cheerful request to agree:
Yes, I would like to try the Eternal Life Device(s). I understand that the inventor, Alex Chiu, guarantees me that if I am not satisfied with the Eternal Life Device for any reason, I am allowed to get a full refund within 90 days.[boldness added]
Now given that the only reason I can imagine for someone not being satisfied with their package of Eternal Life is if it doesn't work (ie. they still die), your guarantee beckons the questions:
  1. Would I be correct in assuming that you allow third-parties (spouses/families) to ask for a refund within 90 days of the deceased person's order?
  2. And if you do, what percent of your orders result in a refund within 90 days for the specific reason of death? (ie. not including other "not satisfied for any reason" s).
  3. Does this figure include refunds for causes of death unrelated to mortality?
Your answers and statistics are appreciated.
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Question (5)

American AC in Paris (230456) | more than 13 years ago | (#184187)

Alex,

If you were to end up dying someday, who should I contact for a refund on my eternal life device?

Thanks in advance,
American AC in Paris

Immortality would Suck (2)

Calle Ballz (238584) | more than 13 years ago | (#184191)

The only reason I would fork over the cash for something like that, is to see the future. But that's not much of an issue, I look forward to dying as an old man. So because you people will be pioneering toward the future, and us lazy people still wanna see what's ahead in time without the immortal side effects..... Will there be a service sometime that I could use to be removed from my timeline and taken to the future as soon as Time Travel is invented?

Been waiting to as (4)

Apreche (239272) | more than 13 years ago | (#184192)

First of all this guy is for memepool, not for slashdot. I read most of his site, and in my opinion he is insane. However I do have an interesting question to ask him.

Do you seriously believe that your immortality stuff works? If you do, then you are insane. However if you don't, I think you might actually be a pretty smart guy. You are doing what every evangelist and salesperson does. You are taking advantage of really stupid people by lying and selling stuff.

What I'm basically asking is this.
A) Do you believe that this stuff works or are you just a clever salesman?
B) If you believe this stuff works, what do you say to all the (intelligent) people who think you are insane?
C) If you believe this stuff works, what are you smoking, and can I have some? I don't do drugs, but, hell I'm immortal so I can do whatever drugs I want!

Okay Alex, here's one... (5)

Bonker (243350) | more than 13 years ago | (#184196)

I think that a lot of the people who visit your page think that you are a bit of a loony and a lot of a profiteer. While I like the fact that you offer 'free' rings in exchange for a donation to certain charities, I can't help but feel that you are probably not using the best of peer-reviewed science to back up your ideas.

Despite this, I bet you feel that what you're doing is pretty important.

Tell us then, Why do you think no medical experts come forth to do studies on your devices or reccomend their use?

For some this will be a vindication of your ideas. For others it will be a glimpse into one of the minds that makes the web as truly a strange and wonderful place that it is.

Slashdot hacked again? (3)

bahtama (252146) | more than 13 years ago | (#184198)

Between the main page, the meta keywords (starwars, star, trek, antichrist) and pop-up spam pages on that site, I thought Slashdot had been hacked again and someone had posted a fake story! That's what happened, right?

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Re:The cost of immortality (1)

cavemanf16 (303184) | more than 13 years ago | (#184208)

I think that's exactly why he's got that Reichish eagle banner on his 'Immortality Rings' page...

Re:Immortality (2)

cavemanf16 (303184) | more than 13 years ago | (#184209)

But if you could be immortal in this life, would anyone be able to stand it? After seeing all of the evils of the world committed again and again, I think you would grow weary of experiencing the same tragic things over and over, even if there was no death involved. Plus, the more emotional scars you bear, the harder it is to go on in this life.

To go kill yourself - now there's a plan. Think of all the emotional scars you'll give others when they find out you couldn't stand this life anymore (which means you couldn't stand it even enough with them by your side). What will they have to look forward to, except a life that will eventually end by suicide. You have a very self-centered view of what immortality in this life would be like if it were possible.

Prove it... (3)

cavemanf16 (303184) | more than 13 years ago | (#184210)

Alex, you say that this invention of eternal life that you have developed and/or promote is true, and comparable to Einstein, Tesla, and other 'great scientific minds.' Exactly how can you prove that? The only way would be to show that a person could live infinitely, and since there is no end to infinity, you would never be able to end your expirement and provide conclusions in true scientific form. If you have a better explanation, please feel free to share.

Please mod this up... (1)

imaginate (305769) | more than 13 years ago | (#184214)

It is intelligent, if flaming.

BTW, I'm beginning to think I'm lost; is this still the site of, "Stuff that Matters"

most importantly... (1)

imaginate (305769) | more than 13 years ago | (#184215)

Would you believe these claims if someone else made them?

If... (2)

imaginate (305769) | more than 13 years ago | (#184216)

...you jump off a cliff while wearing the magnets, what happens?

Pseudo-Science (3)

Migelikor1 (308578) | more than 13 years ago | (#184218)

Bah...more pseudo science. The placebo effect can do many things, but it can't stop aging and cell decay. I can't wait till the guy dies, wrapped with magnets and doohickys, complaining bitteryly that he's immortal.

anyone else notice that... (2)

slugsalt (311646) | more than 13 years ago | (#184221)

the site is so famous that it's nonexistant. Marvelous.

by the way, my opinion of roblimo's journalistic integrity has now reached absolute zero. good job, kiddo.


Lifetime warranty (1)

Anne_Nonymous (313852) | more than 13 years ago | (#184222)

So is there a lifetime warranty on this guy's device, or what?

Hey Alex! (1)

Kara B. (315771) | more than 13 years ago | (#184223)

Are you single?
If so, are you open to a new relationship?
I'm 5'10, 140lbs with brown hair and blue eyes.
I want to spend the rest of my (eternal) life with someone like you.
--Kara

Hah (2)

number one duck (319827) | more than 13 years ago | (#184225)

Thats what you get when you promise silly things, isn't it. Internet Icon he may be, but this is no church of bob...

Who will be the next FREAKIN' GENIUS?? (1)

MajrMeximelt (413119) | more than 13 years ago | (#184230)

That's what the banner ad at the top asks. It is then followed by this article. QED!

how long? (5)

Magumbo (414471) | more than 13 years ago | (#184231)

Alex,

How long have you been making these amazing devices? If fewer than 130 years, please describe how you *really* know they work? If >= 130 years, please prove you aren't one of those bouncing Chinese vampires by eating 5 "bundles" of sticky rice and posting the video on your website. Thank you.

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Re:Don't you fear for your safety? (1)

zero1101 (444838) | more than 13 years ago | (#184234)

bets as to whether the above comment will end up in Majestic (www.majestic.ea.com) in some capacity?

A faster way to make money fast (1)

Nick Number (447026) | more than 13 years ago | (#184237)

The claims he's making seem to fall into the realm of the paranormal. Here's a question I'd like to see him answer.

If these devices work the way you claim, why don't you make a quick million dollars by taking and passing the James Randi challenge [randi.org] ?

/. promotes spam now? (1)

n3r0.m4dski11z (447312) | more than 13 years ago | (#184238)

what kind of a news site promotes spam webpages that try and get you to buy useless crap?
Whats the difference between this guy and oh say scientologists?
will slashdot one day become just a haven for cheap marketing ploys, pyramid scams and hawking useless shit?(oh wait we have thinkgeek for that last one)
maybe the mystical dr. Chiu can answer those questions.

Immortality can't save your web server (1)

The Panther! (448321) | more than 13 years ago | (#184239)

I suppose there weren't enough immortality rings around his web server's network cable to keep out all the negative energy from /.'ers. I can't even check out the pseudo science site.

/. -- collaborative DoS or news site? You be the judge.

June Fools Day (1)

bobgoatcheese (455695) | more than 13 years ago | (#184249)

This has to be trying to make up for the ill conceived April Fool's Day jokes.
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