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Paint.NET: The Anti-GIMP?

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the translucent-tools-are-smart dept.

Graphics 864

Arno contributes a link to Paint.NET, a free-of-charge raster-graphics program for Windows XP machines. "Quote: 'Paint.NET is image and photo manipulation software designed to be used on computers that run Windows XP. Paint.NET is jointly developed at Washington State University with additional help from Microsoft, and is meant to be a free replacement for the MS Paint software that comes with all Windows operating systems. The programming language used to create Paint.NET is C#, with GDI+ extensions.' It really seems like a nice tool. I definitely prefer its UI to GIMP's."

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Interesting (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159625)

Nothing for you to see here. Please move along

My thoughts exactly.

Seriously, why should I care about this? I'm on linux.

Re:Interesting (4, Insightful)

a_karbon_devel_005 (733886) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159714)

You should care because one of the nicest features of GIMP, and indeed all cross platform OSS is that it DOES work on Windows. It's a major help to development to have that user base. If GIMP gets dropped for Paint.NET on windows ( which I'm not saying/seeing it will, but it DOES apparently have MS's interest ) then GIMP will lose "hands at the wheel" for development/testing and that will contribute to it losing a bit of steam, even if YOUR only concernt is linux. Ask not for who the bell tolls, sir, it tolls for thee.

Re:Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159756)

Not even a majority of people here run that hack of an OS. You know all the benefits you tout of your FOSS programs are fine, but they almost *all* run on Windows. Linux sucks. There are good FOSS programs though, which I take advantage of on Windows. Best of both worlds. Now GIMP, that also sucks. This is a nice free replacement. That's why I care about it. You can go back to the pain that is Linux now, have a nice day.

Bandwidth problem?..... download slow (0)

CoolSilver (794518) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159627)


TEMPORARILY REMOVED DUE TO BANDWIDTH CONSTRAINTS
To get the .NET framework, please visit Windows Update
Paint.NET v2.0 Full Installer (28.7mb .EXE)

Oops! Someone forgot about a few extra people.

Re:Bandwidth problem?..... download slow (3, Informative)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159841)

FYI:
Program also works on Windows 2000 with .NET 1.1 installed.
First impressions: sure beats MS Paint :)

Mirror (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159628)

I managed to grab a mirror [dealsites.net] if needed. Site kinda seemed slow, especially for a .edu domain.

You would think.. (4, Funny)

MadAnthony02 (626886) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159853)

You would think Microsoft wouldn't let people mirror their software - after all, they always tell people that you can't trust software on mirrors [slashdot.org] . Huge security risk, you know.

Here it comes. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159633)

Before we all do the obligatory "GIMP r0xx0rz, .NET sux", please try downloading this... after it's Slashdotted. Very nice product, it doesn't have the advanced image conversion GIMP does, but very useful indeed.

I wonder if they used P/Invoke so I can run this on Mono?

Re:Here it comes. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159770)

You mean I wonder if they DIDN"T use P/Invoke so you can run it on Mono.

Re:Here it comes. (1)

ichimunki (194887) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159778)

If it's not free (as in speech) software why would I want to try it when I already know and love the GIMP? Does it do anything the GIMP doesn't, other than install easily on newer Microsoft Windows machines?

here here (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159845)

I agree 100%. From what I've seen, VERY few people actually use the GIMP for anything other than the occasional experiment to see if it has stopped sucking yet. I only had a brief look at this .NET program, but it already looks SIGNIFICANTLY better than the GIMP in almost every aspect.

I mod this story... (3, Funny)

OblongPlatypus (233746) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159640)

-1, Flamebait.

Not that it's impossible that this is useful/good software, but to suggest so to slashdot? Come on.. :)

Mono. (2, Interesting)

pete-classic (75983) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159643)

Does it run on Mono? I'm being serious.

-Peter

MONO? (5, Interesting)

jj110888 (791178) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159650)

So, um, isn't this the kind of thing we can run under mono without having to deal with wine regressions? Didn't M$ just help linux and windows users alike here by using .net?

Re:MONO? (1)

KarmaMB84 (743001) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159704)

It's not an MS project. Read the summary.

Re:MONO? (2, Insightful)

frostfreek (647009) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159728)

I doubt that GDI+ is available in Mono. GDI+ is a 'free' download from Microsoft, but it's a DLL.

Re:MONO? (2, Informative)

arkanes (521690) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159819)

GDI+ is the System.Drawing namespace, which is implemented in Mono. It may not be feature complete.

Re:MONO? (3, Informative)

cosinezero (833532) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159810)

... why do you think .NET is around? Cross platform programming is one of the goals of .NET.

Any GPL code in there? (0, Flamebait)

DuckWing (19575) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159651)

The real question is any of GIMP's code that isn't tied to the UI (GTK+) in this program? Microsoft steels everything it can't have. Quite frankly the UI doesn't look as good as the GIMP IMHO.

Re:Any GPL code in there? (1)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159767)

The source is readily available on their website (well, once the slashdotting is over). Most (all?) of the work was done by students, not be MS.

Server meltin (2, Informative)

mOoZik (698544) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159654)

Can't even get the screenshots to load. While it may be an anti-gimp, it probably is also an anti-photoshop. However, the site is now not responding, so I can't check features and specifications. Did anyone manage to get a mirror set up?

Re:Server meltin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159799)

> probably is also an anti-photoshop

probably -- with considerable certainty; without much doubt.

> I can't check features and specifications.

You probably should have.

How... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159658)

How is this the anti-Gimp? It doesn't run on multiple platforms (only in windows).

Are they marketing themselves as the anti-Gimp or was that just the editor(s) trying to start a flamewar for our amusement?

I's so Anti-Gimp (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159659)

This program is so Anti gimp that it can walk and has full use of all it's limbs.

Dude (0, Offtopic)

nahnkari (732424) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159662)

Go go go slashdot them !

.Net (2, Interesting)

earthstar (748263) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159669)

why does the name have .NET?
What are the features of .Net in paint

Re:.Net (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159725)

You can send your paint pictures over the inter.Net

Re:.Net (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159757)

GDI+

Re:.Net (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159814)

Because it was developed in .Net, that's why. You need the .Net environment to run it. You do know that .Net isn't some crazy scheme for keeping all your information in one spot, right? I remember circa 2001 when all the newbs here thought that.

Re:.Net (2, Funny)

cioxx (456323) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159816)

What are the features of .Net in paint

Certain degree of ambiguity.

A replacement for MS Paint (5, Insightful)

Pacifix (465793) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159672)

If it's meant to be a replacement for MS Paint as the blurb states, I don't think the Gimp should feel threatened. The chasm between Paint and Gimp is lightyears wide. It's unlikely this program could attract the OSS devotion necessary to become really big, especially what with its association with MS and the sometimes irrational dislike this inspires in some of us.

Re:A replacement for MS Paint (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159786)

From the mirror:

"Paint.NET has many of the powerful features that expensive commercial applications have, including the ability to use layers."

Depending on the gorm possessed by the blurb writer, we might be safe in assuming it has channels, too.

And as it's .nettish, we can expect a pile of plugins.

Never underestimate the momentum that Microsoft's billion-computer installation base brings to software-development dynamics.

If I ran the The Gimp project, I'd be running down the e-halls screaming "fix the interface! fix the interface!" right now.

Re:A replacement for MS Paint (2, Informative)

wyldeone (785673) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159793)

While it is meant (I would assume from the feature set) to be a replacement for Pain (and it does this admirably) it also has advanced photo editing tools, such as clone stamp, as well as some filters. So while at its present state the GIMP is better at image manipulation, the framework is there for more photo editing features.

sad to say, but GIMP does lack (3, Insightful)

hsmith (818216) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159678)

I do a bit of graphics stuff and i would never put my Photoshop to the side. it is by FAR the best graphics program out there. GIMP is nice for little things at work, but for personal use i would never use it.

Re:sad to say, but GIMP does lack (1)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159712)

GIMP is nice for little things at work, but for personal use i would never use it.

Well at least you're honest in your priorities;-)

Re:sad to say, but GIMP does lack (5, Funny)

Alan (347) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159733)

I think what he's trying to say is "I am scared to bring my hax0red version of photoshop to work" :)

Re:sad to say, but GIMP does lack (0, Troll)

hsmith (818216) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159775)

haha well coding java and C# i don't really need a graphics program, but for screen shots gimp works well. but doing sites and layouts on my private time, i wouldn't consider gimp :(

Re:sad to say, but GIMP does lack (1)

Loco3KGT (141999) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159749)

my god I wish I had mod points.

Re:sad to say, but GIMP does lack (1)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159835)

Note that Paint.NET is touted as a replacement to Windows Paint, not Photoshop. I think the guy who wrote the summary needs to understand the concept of "different application types".

Next, from the same submitter, how Word.NET replaces that ugly, horrible, "VI" tool. And can Explorer.NET vanguish the vile BASH once and for all?

Re:sad to say, but GIMP does lack (1)

PPGMD (679725) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159888)

No Word.NET would replace eMacs. Though I am not sure which would be more bloated.

good job /. (5, Informative)

the right sock (160156) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159682)

75gb

dev, with mirror link: http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/

A few questions about it.. (4, Insightful)

suso (153703) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159685)

  • Is it open source?
  • Does it work on anything besides windows?
  • How is this program different from the 100 other free paint programs for windows?
  • Why is this on slashdot and why are they saying this is the anti-gimp?

Re:A few questions about it.. (5, Informative)

TheAwfulTruth (325623) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159760)

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) It's open source.
4) See #3 and because all /. headlines have to have inflamitory and misleading headlines to attract attention for some reason.

Re:A few questions about it.. (4, Insightful)

suso (153703) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159827)

4) See #3 and because all /. headlines have to have inflamitory and misleading headlines to attract attention for some reason.

Yes exactly, I think it would have been better and more helpful to have a headline like "Paint.NET, an open source alternative to MS-Paint". I suppose slashdot has fallen into the same pit that all other mainstream media is trapped in where it must scare its audience into submission.

Re:A few questions about it.. (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159833)

They may be a mono port to Linux.

Windows.forms are proprietary and most have been ported to mono which can now compile some Windows apps.

I admit the gdi+ is proprietary but who knows.

As a Windows user I would love a free program like this and I hate the gimp with a passion. I quiver at the ui and struggle to get anything done.

Re:A few questions about it.. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159764)

>Why is this on slashdot and why are they saying this is the anti-gimp?

No idea. We need a Photoshop-killer, not a Gimp-killer.

Gimp's interface sucks, plain and simple.

WHY does it sucks? (since I need to be constructive in my critic)

Gimp sucks because the interface is WAY too different compared to Photoshop.

Re:A few questions about it.. (4, Insightful)

agraupe (769778) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159862)

It only sucks for those who use photoshop extensively before switching to the GIMP. I remained free of Photoshop long enough that now I am completely used to the GIMP's interface, and I don't see why it is any better/worse than Photoshop's. I agree, it doesn't have some of Photoshop's features, but we need to stop complaining about the UI. Just because it is different doesn't mean it is bad. As I see it, we shouldn't try to convert the professional full-time users of Photoshop, but rather the people who pirate it. Piracy is a bigger threat to Free Software than it is to entrenched industry standard software, IMO.

Re:A few questions about it.. (1)

Joey Patterson (547891) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159800)

Is it open source?
No.

Does it work on anything besides windows?
No.

How is this program different from the 100 other free paint programs for windows?
This one is free (as in beer).

Why is this on slashdot and why are they saying this is the anti-gimp?
I have absolutely no idea.

Re:A few questions about it.. (3, Informative)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159838)

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.


Sure looks like a BSD-style license to me, it's just not GPL.

Re:A few questions about it.. (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159822)

How is this program different from the 100 other free paint programs for windows?

???

I could actually find very few that were more than trash.

Any suggestions... anyone?

I'm looking for something decent with layer support, with not an all too unusual GUI (I didn't really like GIMP's).

Why is this on slashdot and why are they saying this is the anti-gimp?

Because it's not open source and it's Windows only? :-)
(should answer your first two questions too)

Re:A few questions about it.. (0, Troll)

Tasy (410890) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159864)

Is it open source?

No.

Does it work on anything besides windows?

Look at the name of the program. What do you think?

How is this program different from the 100 other free paint programs for windows?

Try it your self.

Why is this on slashdot and why are they saying this is the anti-gimp?

What, are you upset because slashdot isn't strict pro-linux?

Insightful? Sounds like flamebait to me. What do I know?

Re:A few questions about it.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159877)

The license [216.239.63.104] states that it is free.

The download page [wsu.edu] has source links too

Paint.NET + Gimp (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159689)

Paint.NET (aka Gimp for Windows) Does that make it PIMP for Windows?

BitTorrent! (0, Redundant)

whysanity (231556) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159692)

Watch this thread for a .torrent as soon as I set it up :)

Re:BitTorrent! (3, Informative)

whysanity (231556) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159821)

torrents are fun [homedns.org]

Coral Cache file: (4, Informative)

Neophytus (642863) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159699)

Much faster [nyud.net] than either of the mirrors listed.

Re:Coral Cache file: (0)

Alan (347) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159776)

+1 for download link. Thanks!

Sounds great for Basic Tasks (1)

brandonp (126) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159701)

Sounds like it'll do a great job at tasks of Resizing, Croping, and most image adjustments. But what about it's scripting ability, in comparison to ScripFu/TinFu scripting ability or other advanced that some people need.

Although, it'll looks to fit the needs for 95% of the people out there.

Brandon Petersen
Get Firefox! [spreadfirefox.com]

Uh - wow (1)

shubert1966 (739403) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159708)

No kidding. Isn't MS Paint a lame-ass program that comes with the Microsoft O/S? It's like the Minesweeper game. Um, Photoshop has been doing quite nicely for a very long time.

Re:Uh - wow (1, Troll)

bob beta (778094) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159727)

Yeah. It's kind of like lame-ass xpaint that comes with X11 in that regard. Uh, but no minesweeper bundled with X11.

Photoshop costs a big pile of money.

Re:Uh - wow (1)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159806)

Photoshop costs a big pile of money.

Any gueses on the percentage of Slashdotters who paid for their personal copy of Photoshop?

If it was above 1% I'd be very suprised.

Anti-gimp huh... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159713)

So does that mean if I install the Gimp and then try to install Paint.NET that my computer will explode?

Hmm.... sounds fun. Maybe I should try it on a work computer so I can get a new one...

Unfortunately, just like most anti-particles in our universe, it appears that Paint.NET is in short supply.

Free of charge is not open source (0)

Lord Satri (609291) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159715)

There is a huge difference, in the long run, between "free of charge" and "open source". I choose open source :-)

Re:Free of charge is not open source (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159730)

Considering that it IS open source, your post looks rather moronic. FYI, RTFM before putting virtual foot in mouth.

It's a .NET product. Ewwww... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159716)

It looks like a great toy. But there's a problem. It uses the .NET framework. And I refuse to install that. Why should I install more badly designed MS software then I have too?

Re:It's a .NET product. Ewwww... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159869)

I hope you're trolling. Most everyone who has used .Net for a serious programming project is *floored* by how well designed it is. Seriously, give it a shot, grab a few books on C# and VS.Net and get coding. I bet you'll never go back to whatever you use now, assuming you're a Windows programmer. All the .Net download is, is a runtime environment, just like the Java interpreter. Get some facts before you

Looks like it's Open Source. Cool. (5, Informative)

stephenb (18235) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159719)

Re:Looks like it's Open Source. Cool. (1)

stephenb (18235) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159823)

Hmm, maybe not Open Source, actually. Free as in beer, for sure. I'm downloading the source now, to see what the source is licensed as.

Ummmm SO? (1)

Prince Vegeta SSJ4 (718736) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159726)

Image and photo manipulation software I mean, damn near anything that takes a digital photo or scans an image comes with Paintshop or Photoshop (albeit the light versions). I just know remembered that windows actually had a paint program. And those provide what most users would need anyway(non pros, which seem to be the target audience).

FvIRST POST (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159729)

Mirror off their site (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159731)

http://www.wsu.edu/~rolo/PaintDotNet_2_0.msi

wow this is SLOW (4, Informative)

hsmith (818216) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159739)

try drawing with the fat brush

i am running a 3.0+ ghz and 2GB ram dell and the graphics painting sucks

they may want to work on speed a bit if they want to be taken seriously

Re:wow this is SLOW (4, Informative)

geekster (87252) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159840)

Yeah really. The requirements are 800 Mhz and 256 Mb ram. Which are exactly my specs.

It was painfully slow. It stopped responding for about 5-10 seconds in the middle of a brush stroke and completely froze when i tried to exit throught the file menu.

As usual... (1)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159740)

...http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/ is already slashdotted! I beg Slashdot to set-up some kind of mirror to these stories. It is very frustrating not to be able to see something because of the slashdot effect.

Worse is the fact that many of those who slashdot these sites later do nothing or choose to post comments not related to the stories!

Now that is a fact. I realise that I have also posted a comment not related to the GIMP or the newly created .NET application.

Re:As usual... (1)

Neophytus (642863) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159769)

MirrorDot [mirrordot.org] does just this. Why doesn't it get the publicity?

Windows XP Only? (2, Informative)

eberry (84517) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159742)

...designed to be used on computers that run Windows XP

The author mentions twice that it runs only with Windows XP. It runs with Windows 2000, and presumably with any version of Windows that has the .NET Framework installed.

Now I wonder, does it run with Mono?

Not Anti-gimp (4, Informative)

tsetem (59788) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159745)

I'd say, just like the article, it's intended to be a replacement for MS-Paint. It doesn't appear to have anywhere near all of the advanced features of Gimp.

It has layers, and an effects API, but that seems to be where the similarity ends.

The interface appears to be simple like MS Paint's, but I think it's seriously overstating that it's a Gimp competitor. Heck, sounds like the project has only been around for 2 semesters. How mature could it be compared to Gimp or Photoshop?

Re:Not Anti-gimp (1)

athakur999 (44340) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159839)

It is not a full on competitor to the Gimp but I do see it cutting into some of the Gimp's "market share" on the Windows platform. Alot of people install the Gimp on Windows because they need more functionality than MS Paint provides rather than because they need all the functionality the Gimp has.

The site is Slashdotted so I can't get the download, but if this program does a good job handling the middle ground between MS Paint and the Gimp then I can see it taking away a few users.

Source Code ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159752)

Donde esta?

Looks craptacular (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159753)

Gimp is a multi-platform, ever-evolving solution, which gives people flexibility they might need for certaint projects. What can Paint.net do that PaintShopPro, Photoshop, ArcSoft PhotoStudio cannot? It's a lame freeware "program" which lacks killer features.

Show me something which is revolutionary. Announcement of ADPPW (Another Desktop Paint Program for Windows) is similar to publicizing about another WindowsXP theme which is set out to compete with Gnome or Aqua.

Next.

Little logic gap here (2, Interesting)

abb3w (696381) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159754)

designed to be used on computers that run Windows XP.

Indeed. Listed System Requirements: 600MHz processor (800MHz recommended), 128MB RAM (256MB recommended), Windows XP SP1 or later (all editions), .NET Framework 1.1. However...

meant to be a free replacement for the MS Paint software that comes with all Windows operating systems.

If the requirements are XP, it can only be a replacement for the MS Paint Software that comes with XP, not for the MS Paint Software for any other MS OS. Yes, I think I know what they mean; no, that's not what they said.

(Sorry, my mother was a retired English teacher.)

As much as I would love the swtich to GIMP (0, Offtopic)

zaqattack911 (532040) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159762)

It just makes ugly looking photos.

I've tried a lot of gimp versions. And even the most basic image manipulation tools in gimp (contrast,hue,unsharp mask.., burn dodge, scale image) produce some mediocre looking results. Somehow the behind-the-scenes algos that photoshop uses just produce better looking results.

I wish it weren't true.

I'll give paint .net a try, but I doubt it has everything I need.

Robin Hood Demo for Linux ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159771)

Download the demo here :
http://www.3ddownloads.com/Strategy/Robin%20Hood/D emos/rh-linux-demo-x86.run/ [3ddownloads.com]

And please some submit the news to Slashdot (I am French, my english is too poor...)

There is an article at epci-interactive website
http://www.epic-interactive.com/Website2004/englis ch/index.htm/ [epic-interactive.com]

Sorry for my off-topic

From the Screenshots Page... (1)

judmarc (649183) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159772)

Work with layers, a powerful feature usually found only on expensive commercial applications

Hrrmm...

Though I must say that even after growing somewhat accustomed to it through constant use, I would love to explore any alternative to the GIMP's UI.

The GIMP has a GUI?!? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159781)

Seriously? Where?!?

First instance, evah. (1)

bob beta (778094) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159783)

This is the first instance thus far of something that it looks like I won't be able to run on Windows 2000. I fell off the 'upgrade boat' at W2K and have had no intention of downgrading to 'phone home' Windows XP with it's playschool UI bloat.

Is there a way to load the .NET framework/libraries so this can run on W2K or is this the 'knee' of the slope down the hill to obsolescence for W2K?

Re:First instance, evah. (1)

Neophytus (642863) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159837)

You can disable the playschool UI at system service level. Cann't say fairer than that! [img69.exs.cx]

Windows 2000 port? (2, Interesting)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159792)

I have .net installed on my system.

I can not afford photoshop and I would love a free graphics program that is fast, loads up quick like Xnview, has paint and image texturing functions. I could make some quick backgrounds for websites and 3d graphics programs that I am working on.

Photoshop is too fancy and the gimp is too slow and unusable on Windows.

Windows XP? (2, Insightful)

ThePyro (645161) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159795)

Why write something using Microsoft's .NET Framework and then say it's for Windows XP? I thought one of the advantages of .NET was that it works the same on all the supported operating systems.

('Course, having developed stuff in .NET myself, I can vouch for the fact that stuff doesn't always work the same on different OSes, but it's close enough to release a functional product)

big deal (0)

jeif1k (809151) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159809)

There are lots of free-as-in-beer paint programs for Windows. As long as it's closed source, it doesn't matter what it's written in to anybody other than its original developers.

Once they make it available open source under an open license, then it becomes interesting. Until then, it's just a curiosity. The most notable feature is probably that Microsoft has enough influence to push both its proprietary development model and its platform into universities.

Upside down layers (2, Informative)

Digital_Quartz (75366) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159834)

Looking at their screenshots (can't run it from work, I'm on an aging Solaris workstation), it appears that the "layers" pannel lists the layers backwards. And when I say "backwards", I don't mean "opposite from Photoshop", I mean backwards.

The whole point of layers is that you can stack them, so that you can see through a layer ON TOP to a layer ON THE BOTTOM. "On top" is generally synonymous with "above", not "below", and if you keep that mentality, you can view the layer window as a horizontal cross-section of your image.

This is, perhaps, a minor quibble (this is not going to make or break it for me), but it just jumpped out at me as being strange. I can't think why anyone would reverse the layer ordering except to make their software look "not-Photoshop"ish.

OSS (4, Insightful)

fozzmeister (160968) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159847)

"In the spirit of all this freedom, we welcome any suggestions, as well as provide the source code free of charge for anyone who wishes to tinker with it. Please explore this website, download the software and try out many of the things you would do on those expensive commercial applications."

and the license
" Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
"

Well fuck me, MS is sponsoring not just free software but Free software, Very interesting! Oh and can we take this and shove it on Linux?

Paint.NET down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11159848)

Looks like Paint.NET just got Slashdotted to death.
hehe
It's always fun seeing MS servers go down :)

anti? (1)

Quixote (154172) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159850)

The Anti-GIMP?

Why should the existence of a free paint program be "anti-Gimp" ? It's not like there's room for only 1 free paint app! The more, the merrier I say!

What is interesting is that Microsoft supported this. And the license [64.233.167.104] is BSD-like; which is good.

First MSI. And now this. Could it be that Microsoft is inching towards opening up to OSS ideas?

First Impressions (1)

Alan (347) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159855)

I grabbed it the cache someone posted here and figured I'd give it a shock. The first thing it tells me after installing that I have to reboot my computer? For a fscking paint program????? I think not. Maybe that's the part that they got help from MS on?

Yes, I'm sure that it's just part of the installer and you don't really need to reboot, but still, something to think about for version 1.1.

Photoshop and GIMP are not the competition (1)

Junks Jerzey (54586) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159859)

This is meant to be a light to middleweight photo and image editing program. Both Photoshop and The GIMP are intended to be do-everything monsters. As such, the competition is all the other lightweight photo editors out there, like PaintShop Pro and the various packages that come with most digital cameras.

MSPaint.NET (1)

ImEric12 (712870) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159872)

MSPaint.NET: Now with a star shaped brush!

Anti-Gimp? (1)

mizzeatwizzad (839073) | more than 9 years ago | (#11159890)

Wouldn't it really be the Bizarro-Gimp?
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