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Firefox Improves Pop-Up Ad Blocking

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the it-makes-me-sad-that-this-is-necessary dept.

Mozilla 464

BlakeCaldwell writes "The popular open-source browser already contains a pop-up blocker by default, but this does not handle pop-ups launched by plug-ins such as Flash and Java. Mozilla employee Asa Dotzler wrote in his blog last week that Mozilla developers are responding to the increasing number of advertisers that are using plug-ins to launch pop-up ads."

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The_Fire_Horse discovers a GNAA Antidote (-1, Troll)

The_Fire_Horse (552422) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143167)

Its HERE - The GNAA Antidote!!

If you are one of those poor soles who have been tricked into joining the dreaded GNAA, then DO NOT DESPAIR for we have the solution!

Ingredients
-----------
1 x Gay Nigger (YUO)
1 x bottle of crazy glue
1 x bottle of bleach
1 x briefcase

Procedure
-----------
Step 1. Cure your Gayness
To do this you need to first of all burn all your gay magazines and then delete all the gay porn on your hard drive
Pull down your pants and then punch your faggoty boyfriend who immediately tries to attack your ass. Open the bottle of crazy glue and insert it into your anus - squeeze the entire bottle in there and then place some duct tape over the opening and leave for 3 hours to set. [Note - you should go to the toilet *before* doing this step]

Step 2. Cure your Blackness
It's hard to be black - people disrespect you, and even with 435,781 black rap bands you are still classed as a complete loser.
You first need to take off all your clothes and wash yourself in bleach - repeat 15 times and you will then be as white as Micheal Jackson

Step 3. Walk the Walk
Ok - you are no longer gay, and you are no longer a nigger - you have no officially resigend from the GNAA and its time to TAKE CHARGE OF YOUR LIFE!
Wear some nice clothes (no hip hop shit or baggy crap - I said NICE CLOTHES. You should also take the briefcase and carry it every where you go.

Congratulations - you are cured of the GNAA

Hot date with RealCow tonight! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143280)

Technology advances AGAIN! : Bovine rectal palpation simulator. [unige.ch] It should be a simple matter to re-design this for goats.

Holy Chit! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143168)

FP! (not anymore)

I've been testing it... (5, Informative)

tquinlan (868483) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143173)

...and it seems to work very well so far. The sites I've noted that managed to get a popup through even with the normal popup blocker can no longer get them open.

Re:I've been testing it... (3, Funny)

ABaumann (748617) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143294)

yes, but do you look at pr0n?

Re:I've been testing it... (2, Informative)

ABaumann (748617) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143393)

Figured I'd get modded to troll for that. What I mean to say, since it appearently needs further explaination, generally if you just avoid going to porn and warez sites, you can fairly safely avoid pop ups and pop unders and the like.

Re:I've been testing it... (4, Informative)

madprof (4723) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143427)

Try going to a UK newspaper website. The Times is especially bad for pop up adverts that the blocker can't get.

Re:I've been testing it... (1, Informative)

Seumas (6865) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143299)

I have always used Firefox and AdBlock and have never come across these "magical" popups/popunders that everyone keeps crying about. The only time I get a popup in Firefox is when it's something I've put in my allow list.

Re:I've been testing it... (2, Informative)

192.168.0.1 (872231) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143400)

Well, I've seen the popups myself and have ZERO sites in my "Allowed Sites" list for popups. I don't remember the specific sites they came from but they were results right on google for some of my search terms for several days.

Re:I've been testing it... (2, Informative)

Seumas (6865) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143480)

Someone elsewhere here had a link to a test page that would case the problem to occur. I clicked on it. Nothing happened. And yeah, I have Flash installed. And no, I don't have this new popup blocker installed. Just whatever the most recent release of Firefox and Adblock are. *shrug*

I suspect this tends to occur at certain sites of.. *cough*.. questionable content. Which would explain why most probably don't encounter it.

Re:I've been testing it... (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143489)

I bet I can guess what your terms were...

Re:I've been testing it... (2, Informative)

DrJonesAC2 (652108) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143486)

whitepages.com [whitepages.com] has 'em.

FP (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143176)

Yeah Linux Rocks!

Counter-counter-attack (4, Insightful)

hey (83763) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143183)

How soon til the pop-up ad companies find a way around this new blocked and Mozilla has to respond again, ...

Re:Counter-counter-attack (5, Insightful)

TheRealFixer (552803) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143217)

At least, thankfully, Mozilla DOES respond. How many years did it take for IE to finally even get pop-up blocking?

Re:Counter-counter-attack (2, Insightful)

JKatan (712860) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143295)

yes, that's the beauty of OSS. no need to wait till point releases for things that require immediate attention *cough*...IE...*cough* safari... *cough*

Re:Counter-counter-attack (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143355)

yes, that's the beauty of OSS. no need to wait till point releases for things that require immediate attention *cough*...IE...*cough* safari... *cough*

Bad example.

Safari's pop-up blocking addressed the pop-under issue weeks before Firefox. It's been ad-free for quite some time now.

ummm.. (2, Funny)

ImaLamer (260199) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143439)

I wouldn't know. Did IE update with Service Pack 2?

I've been too busy using Firefox.

Re:ummm.. (3, Informative)

zootm (850416) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143530)

Yeah, IE in SP2 included a popup blocker extremely similar to the one currently in Firefox (it's strange, because I had that little bar that pops up on IE before I had it on Firefox, I don't know who implemented it first).

Re:ummm.. (4, Interesting)

delus10n0 (524126) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143555)

Internet Explorer did; FireFox "borrowed" the concept.

Re:Counter-counter-attack (5, Informative)

happymedium (861907) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143323)

Advertisers may not be that worried about Firefox in particular. Remember that it still only has 5% market share or so against the IE monolith, thus a smart advertiser would spend more resources exploiting IE. When Firefox becomes more popular, that's when we really have to start worrying.

However, couldn't there be a definitive end to this battle in which one browser essentially stops popup windows completely? There are only so many ways to load the damn things, after all. I thought (correct me if I'm wrong) that popups have gotten more press in the last month or so because more people started using Flash to open them. That quickly got blocked by a FF extension. The recent renewal of interest in the issue doesn't necessarily mean that popups are impossible to get rid of.

Re:Counter-counter-attack (5, Interesting)

davidmcw (97565) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143470)

Remember that 5% is still 1 in 20 visitors, advertisers still care about these kinds of numbers and will try to get around it.

Re:Counter-counter-attack (4, Insightful)

The-Bus (138060) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143488)

To me, it DOES mean they are worried. Not long after Firefox 1.0 the js popups started appearing. Had they not been so concerned, we still to this day wouldn't require popups.

It helps that Firefox, or sites where Firefox use is prevalent, tends to skew younger, a demographic web advertisers seek out.

Re:Counter-counter-attack (0)

madprof (4723) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143496)

I was wondering about the morality of blocking pop-ups - we're effectively denying revenue to the websites whose content we enjoy. But then I remembered that I don't block all images on websites or Flash, I just hate pop-ups and killing them seems like fair game.

Re:Counter-counter-attack (1)

mattmentecky (799199) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143331)

This just in: glass is half empty, more at 11.

Re:Counter-counter-attack (2, Insightful)

Makzu (868112) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143366)

Well, I for one welcome our new popup blocking overlords.

Seriously, though, I think it's great that they're working on this stuff and making the Internet that much less annoying. Every time the Mozilla team makes the blocker stronger, it makes it harder for the advertisers to get around it. I believe that eventually, we'll reach a point to where it won't be possible to get around the filter without explicit permission from the user. That would be very nice.

Re:Counter-counter-attack (1)

Drooling Iguana (61479) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143373)

How long did it take them to respond the first time? We've had pop-up blocking for quite a while, you know.

Re:Counter-counter-attack (1)

Tethys_was_taken (813654) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143384)

This "new" system is a generic method to block all pop-ups by any plugin. (I say "new" because the basic method seems to be available since 1.0 [mozillazine.org] .) It seems to be implemented at a lower level in the code.

Unless someone has found an entirely different method that uses neither client-side scripts nor plugins, I would say this system should be safe for a while at least. And as far as I can see, that takes care of almost anything around today. I couldn't find any specifics in TFA though. I wish there were a few more details available without having to look through the code. Oh well...

Adblock does this already, and more efficient. (1)

SimonShine (795915) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143459)

I'm using the Firefox Adblock extension, and it basically blocks all flash applications unless I tell it specifically to unblock one. I personally find this an effective solution because I don't mind clicking an extra time when I actually want to use an application rather than the thousands of times I don't. (And the ones that I use regularly are permanently whitelisted.)

In OpenBSD, I use the Dillo browser which has so few features this is not a problem.

fist prost (-1, Offtopic)

stevenp (610846) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143188)

If you see this, your ad-blocking is not working correctly

Excellent! (-1, Redundant)

LiENUS (207736) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143190)

This looks great and the fix is even available right now through an extension. I just wonder how the advertisers will get around this one. Hopefully they don't get around it for a good long time. Fortunately the advertisers who have been using these methods so far have not been very numerous.

Re:Excellent! (1)

shawb (16347) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143306)

If I was an advertiser, I doubt that I'd try that hard to get around it. I'd prefer to advertise to people that actually click on the ads, making me money. But I doubt the average v1@gr4 peddler is that intelligent.

First? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143195)

Nothing to see here, because Firefox blocked them?

It doesn't work (5, Informative)

Mr_Silver (213637) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143202)

Don't want to spoil everyones fun but you should read the comments posted below before you install it.

In short, it doesn't work particulary well. However, adot has responded and says that those issues will be worked on.

Having suffered one of those "new generation" of pop ups only about 10 minutes ago, I look forward to seeing this functionality when it's in a more finished state.

Re:It doesn't work (4, Informative)

ahsile (187881) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143246)

The most annoying popups I have seen lately are making use of document.layers and not plugins like flash. Most of the time they're the ones that popup ads when you run your mouse cursor over a word. Pain in the ass, those are.

A refreshing change... (5, Interesting)

Moby Cock (771358) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143206)

This is why I like to use FF. The rate of change from the devs is so much faster than most other browsers. (Opera may be better, I don't know, I never use it, I don't like the ads) Pop-ups are starting to bother FF users, so the Mozilla guys start to sort it out. Well done guys, and thanks.

Not really an update (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143212)

This isn't really an update to the popup blocking code in Firefox, it makes the default preferences a little more aggressive.

In fact, it blocks all popups so that you have to manually whitelist the sites that use legitimate popups.

Re:Not really an update (1)

fryguy451 (592591) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143296)

And even then it doesn't allow some that are... well... allowed... Plus, some popups, such as those launched via a bookmark are seen as the locally opened tab (whatever site that might be)... I've uninstalled it. Normall popup settings and Adblock do fine for the most part. I'll check again once they've worked thro some of the bugs...

Half of the problem solved... (5, Informative)

Minute Work (749085) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143218)

Fight plugins with plugins.
For the 3 people who aren't aware of the Flashblocker extension yet.
https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/morei nfo.php?application=firefox&version=1.0&os=Windows &category=Web%20Annoyances&numpg=10&id=433 [mozilla.org]

Re:Half of the problem solved... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143293)

count me among the 3... but I'm very happy to know now. Cheers!

Re:Half of the problem solved... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143382)

Flashblocker ? What's that ?!? You must be thinking of Flashblock [mozilla.org] .

Blog comments Say It Works Too Universally... (5, Informative)

Pants75 (708191) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143220)

The comments on that blog URL are pretty unanimous in that they say the patch causes FF to block pretty much all pop-ups, even ones you want to occur.

Might not be the ideal solution who use alot of web applications rather than just surfing.

Re:Blog comments Say It Works Too Universally... (2, Informative)

Coolmoe (416032) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143361)

They can always enable it with popup whitelist from sites you want. Still a better default than getting annoying popups.

Addendum: Camino 0.8.3 Released (Mac) (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143231)

"We advise users to update to this version. It contains several important security fixes as well as various other fixes. Version 0.8.3 is also available in a multilingual version."

http://caminobrowser.org/ [caminobrowser.org]

test pop up link (5, Funny)

alatesystems (51331) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143236)

Here's a test popup/popunder link for Firefox [chrisbenard.net] using flash.

Re:test pop up link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143310)

wow, after I disabled Adblock and clicked on the Flashblocker "F" I actually got the popup. thats tricky.

Re:test pop up link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143341)

Flashblock stopped this pop-up from loading for me, and I apparently should be thankful since according to the site, the pop-up is probably nsfw.

Re:test pop up link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143359)

its sacraligous(sp?) not pornographic

Re:test pop up link (1)

ihavenonickers (585370) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143447)

NSFW and NSFY if you are a Christian. Very disturbing Chris...

Re:test pop up link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143532)

Disturbingly hilarious. I recognise it from one of the more tasteless Photoshop Friday's over at somethingawful.com.

Re:test pop up link (1)

Stan92057 (737634) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143539)

Clicked on the link useing IE6 SP2 and the popup was blocked with IEs new popup blocker.

Re:test pop up link (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143552)

Your pop-up does not make sense. Because he did go some where. It is you who is going to need it.

Re:test pop up link (1)

MannyO (649725) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143554)

Wow.... I'm running ie and I didn't see anything... Click on the page; looks like something is loading but nothing happens; reload, nothing happens; close the page, nothing....and I tried it about 3 times. I had to look at the source to actually see the picture at img177.exs.com. Maybe it was being slashdotted, but nothing happened with ie. I'm interested in this because i hate flash ads. BTW, I use ie and I'm happy with it for the most part. The only thing that would make me switch is if they *really* get rid of popups; reading the comments, looks like they have a ways to go...

This is why I chose Firefox (2, Interesting)

jamesjw (213986) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143237)


This is one of the reasons I chose Firefox, its stable, has tabbed browsing and keeps evolving..

The POP Up blocker is already pretty good, so much so that is scares the pants off me just how much crap I miss out on evertime i go to an old Windows box with IE 5 or 6 Vanilla installed.

Kudos to the Firefox developers and the community, developing a cross platform browser that was born to rock :)

-- Jim

All things are relative (4, Insightful)

rueger (210566) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143238)

Ah, just yesterday I was getting annoyed because I had seen three or four pop-under ads in less than a week.

Then I borrowed a friends machine with Internet Explorer. Wow! I had no idea how much crap Firefox was blocking!

How do people live with all of this garbage?

Re:All things are relative (1)

shawb (16347) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143342)

It is possible that your friends computer was also infested with spyware, which could really jack up the number of popads.

Re:All things are relative (1)

lpangelrob2 (721920) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143551)

Funny you should mention that. :-)

I was volunteering my services at church yesterday untangling a mangled Norton installation from a previously unknown (now known!) Symantec install that caused no Word documents to be opened. Searching for some of the utilities I needed online through IE was impossible because Hotbar, WeatherBug, and all other sorts of adware kept triggering pop-ups, pop-unders, and all other sorts of crap while I worked.

My next task was to download FireFox and tell the user to use that instead of IE from now on (don't know if that's going to work. Couldn't remove the adware because, heaven forbid, I think some of it was "useful" to the user, but at what cost!

I think I'm going to write a letter to the church office and tell them why they need to uninstall that stuff ASAP... and how to go about it.

worried (1)

coolcold (805170) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143242)

as I wrote in the blog:

I do like this idea but also start to worry that it might kill off some of the service we get. If one doesn't like to have pop up, one can install extensions for it but having this built-in would render some of the websites "criminal like". I do like this as an extension but not quite being built-in

just my 2cent

Re:worried (1)

nkh (750837) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143501)

What service are you talking about? No one I know like pop-ups, it's always a waste of time and brings nothing useful. If an important site (like your bank) requires windows to be opened, you can add them to the list of the "Allowed Sites", that's very easy for n00bs like my parents to understand.

Example of these popups? I need to test adblock (3, Interesting)

SuperficialRhyme (731757) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143244)

I use adblock and don't see popups. Can someone give an example site where someone is getting around the popup blocking? It may be that I don't visit such sites, or it might be that I've configured adblock in such a way that the popups get blocked by that. In any case, I'd like to test this.

Can anyone provide a link?

Thanks!

Re:Example of these popups? I need to test adblock (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143360)

This is a good point, the Adblock already does a better job than this proposed extension, since I never see popups to begin with.

Re:Example of these popups? I need to test adblock (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143471)

SitePoint [sitepoint.com]

Re:Example of these popups? I need to test adblock (1)

birder (61402) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143494)

That's a good example and one that adblock easily fixes.

Re:Example of these popups? I need to test adblock (1)

nkh (750837) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143527)

I don't have examples but I've seen a few "pop-under" windows, a layer pretending to be a window shown on top of your page (but still inside the page you're reading). It can have pictures and links like a real pop-up but it can be easily killed by AdBlock.

For those to lazy to read the blog (4, Informative)

medication (91890) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143249)

Here's a direct link to the extension [mozilla.org] .
I'm waiting for the patch/extension that allows me to turn off flash banners like I can turn off images.

Re:For those to lazy to read the blog (1)

m50d (797211) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143333)

Why not just not install flash?

Re:For those to lazy to read the blog (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143536)

Because some people visit flash sites, but don't want the popups.

Re:For those to lazy to read the blog (5, Informative)

gzearfoss (829360) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143354)

I find Flashblock [mozilla.org] to be sufficient for my needs. It allows you to turn it completely on or off, and a whitelist of sites. It replaces flash animations with a button which you can select to play the flash animation.

Re:For those to lazy to read the blog (1)

kevin_conaway (585204) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143357)

You mean FlashBlock [mozilla.org] ?

Re:For those to lazy to read the blog (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143402)

try the flashblock extension, it replaces flash with an icon you can select to run that particular piece of flash if you should chose to.

Well... (1)

MaDeR (826021) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143262)

We will see. Now popups appear because they can mimick legitimate popups (showed after click). Very erratic and somewhat rare, but irritiating. And always (in my case) show behind actual page - so-called pop-unders. Funny thing - in school I've forced to use IE. What a unpleasant experience. Popups everywhere. No tabs. Mess on taskbar.

You could fix this (5, Informative)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143268)

You could fix this a long time ago by going to about:config, and changing the value of privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins to "2". I started using this since I've heard of it, and it haven't seen a popup since. I think it's nice that they've enabled this by default, or made it more accessible. They should make more of the settings in about:config accessible in an easier way.

Re:You could fix this (4, Informative)

kryptkpr (180196) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143510)

They should make more of the settings in about:config accessible in an easier way.

Ask.. and ye shalt receive [mozdev.org] ..

How soon.... (-1, Offtopic)

j0ugh (310597) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143279)

...until they can block fist prosts?

I love the FireFox's teams responsiveness (3, Insightful)

quirk3k (124956) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143284)

I think one of the unsong advantages of Open Source is it responds to user wants, even when those wants conflit with business wants. Cookie management, image and pop-up blocking, and other privacy protections would never have been initiated by M$.

Just my $.02.

Are they really willing? (1)

News for nerds (448130) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143290)

I'm not RTFA, but it's this bug

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94035 [mozilla.org]

(Bugzilla dislikes /., just copy the URL in the URL bar of your browser and go)

It's opened in 2001 and not fixed as of now. There are those who argue that a fix is implemented as an extension, which I don't agree to.

Pop-ups. (5, Interesting)

Pants75 (708191) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143292)

I use IE exclusivly. *Please don't hit me*

But I have hardly any trouble with popups.

Maybe I don't go to the sort of sites that use them? Maybe I've just filtered those sites out of my brain?

I don't know but the only sites I see popups on are Sciam.com and NewScientist.com

Others might do it but I never notice.

However, I do get pissed off with those floating flash ads which hover over the body of the page. Those are f*cking everywhere these days.

If FF blocks those reliably then I'd be tempted to swap.

Pete

Re:Pop-ups. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143339)

Re:Pop-ups. (1)

Pants75 (708191) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143485)

My spidy sence is tingling!

See, I won't click on your link which will, most likely, make IE dance around my screen lobing new window into the air.

Re:Pop-ups. (1)

Pants75 (708191) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143364)

Oh come on! I'm not a troll! I was posting serious opinion. I do use IE. I've never had cause to change. I dont go to sites that pop-up a million and one new windows.

Just because I ask a simple question of FF, I get branded as a troll? How is that fair?

Other methods (5, Informative)

whitehatlurker (867714) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143316)

While I have been using the Opera popup blocker for some time, I find that it's {easier / better / more portable / other reason here} to use a filtering proxy (e.g. proxomitron [proxomitron.info] or similar [privoxy.org] ).

They are one stop shopping for blocking the junk that clutters the web.

How about. . . (2, Insightful)

smooth wombat (796938) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143320)

not having Flash installed or Java enabled? How hard is that?

I'm always amazed at people who write in the Mozilla forums about the popups they are getting when using FF and my first question has always been: do you have Flash installed?

99.9% of the time the answer is yes.

Not sure why people think they need to have Flash installed since it's nothing but a resoure hog and rarely provides any extra benefit. As a poster the other day said, if I see the missing puzzle piece when I go to a site that means the site is using Flash and isn't a site I want to visit.

As far as java is concerned, it too is a resource hog and also provides little to no added benefit.

While the FF developers should be commended for their quick work on trying to beat down the horde of advertisers who think that an obnoxious popup is the way to get a message across, this issue is not a FF issue but a third party issue.

I run FF straight out of the box with no extensions and minor tweaks to the chrome file and I never, EVER, see any popups.

This just goes to show that the more crap people put on their systems the more things can go wrong.

Re:How about. . . (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143410)

Ah, a bigot. I love bigots. I used to see people who were bigoted about race, or even religion, but now I'm seeing more and more technology bigots. They're no better.

Re:How about. . . (3, Insightful)

Jaxim (858185) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143487)

How can you NOT have flash installed. There are many legit sites that include flash. It provides much more functionality than straight HTML pages. You can include Video and sound. You're not restricted to the page placement limitations of HTML pages. You can create full functional applications with Flash where you cannot do the same with HTML.

If you're not installing flash because a few bad apples cause popup ads to appear, then you're totally missing out what Today's Net can do.

Say hello to the 1990's for me.

Re:How about. . . (1)

Politburo (640618) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143524)

Some of us like websites that are more than text and static images. Some flash websites are very well designed and make for a better browsing experience. Open your eyes.

flashblock (-1, Redundant)

sTeF (8952) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143351)

Flash based popup/unders are very easily blocked by the very excellent flashblock extension.

Shooting one's self in the foot? (5, Insightful)

CleverNickedName (644160) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143386)

I hate ads as much as anyone, but don't they pretty much fund most sites?

If the advertising companies ever cop on to the fact that many/most people never even see their ads, won't they drop them and leave unfunded?

Re:Shooting one's self in the foot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143428)

I hate ads as much as anyone, but don't they pretty much fund most sites?

Who cares? Fuck 'em, and the IP packet they rode in on. They don't like it, they can get the fuck off the Net and get real jobs.

Re:Shooting one's self in the foot? (3, Interesting)

NetNifty (796376) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143511)

Ads fund most sites, but all ads aren't pop ups. If Firefox was to include adblock as default with a large configuration file for it I'd probably agree with you (to a certain extent anyway), but this just blocks pop-ups which are among the most annoying ads on web sites (only more annoying I can think of is the ones which make noises and don't have a mute button).

Proxomitron (5, Informative)

sytxr (704471) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143397)

A very useful windows freeware(non-OSS) that acts as a local proxy server with custom filters to rewrite web sites on the fly on their way to the browser. All Filters are written in a reasonably potent filtering language and new ones can be written and added.

Possibilities include:
- some popup blocking
- convert within-frame links to normal ones
- convert embedded flash animations or other plugins to clickable links
- modify header information (referrer, browser name,version , caching meta tags)

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=proxomitron&b tnG=Google+Search [google.com]

Doesn't work properly for me. (1)

nlinecomputers (602059) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143435)

It does block popups but it prevents me from manually override the block. It shows the URL in the popup blocker bar but when I click on it it still doesn't allow it to work.

Anyone else have it work like this? Guess I need to search bugzilla for this...

STOP: it blocks even legitimate popups (2, Interesting)

incuso (747340) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143443)

I had to deinstall it just after installation :(

Re:STOP: it blocks even legitimate popups (2, Informative)

SomeOtherGuy (179082) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143522)

Yes it does. People have abused the power of the popup, so all popups are bad by extension. The only true way to get rid of the 95% bad popups is to eliminate popups. A small price to pay.

Prefbar lets you ignore most of the crap (5, Interesting)

bbtom (581232) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143450)

PrefBar [mozdev.org] lets you change your settings. I use it to filter out most flash, animations, JS and Java - then tick them when I need them. Combine that with Flashblock and Adblock and you've got a useful browser.

Can someone explain how this actually works? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12143463)

Personally I am truly amazed at the extent to which advertisers will go to annoy me.

And I really want to know, how does this work? Who are the people who are willing to give money to a company so desperate to annoy them?

I have received the same/similar porn spam email 3 times a day for six months now. Is there ANYONE in the known universe who would ignore/delete such an email 3 times a day for six months, and THEN decide to pay the sender some money?

Not the solution I'm looking for (1)

TintinX (569362) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143491)

OK. So I have been seeing more popups in FF recently and I thought this might be cool.
I installed the extension (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/ni ghtly/experimental/popupsdie/popupsdie.xpi [mozilla.org] ), restarted, but using the Flash plugin test at http://chrisbenard.net/slashdot/ffpop.html [chrisbenard.net] I still get the popunder.
Am I missing something?

Is another mass-vaccination the solution? (1, Insightful)

isolationism (782170) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143493)

Not that having the Mozilla guys address the "next generation" pop-up problems for the masses wouldn't be a bad thing, but ...

Isn't the whole problem with popups (as with so many other annoying or outright malicious software) caused from a lack of diversity or genetic stock?

Nature teaches organisms this lesson often; do we all stampede toward the same vaccination which will eventually fail, or quietly, subtly change our composition to present more diverse ranks which are more difficult to break?

Heh (1)

jdavidb (449077) | more than 9 years ago | (#12143542)

I just installed Filterset.G [geocities.com] for Adblock [mozilla.org] , and the first link I clicked on to test was Slashdot, and I see this story.

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