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Prototype Rollable Paper-like Display Ready Early 267

Posted by ScuttleMonkey from the many-cool-applications dept.
freitasm writes "A few months ago Philips promised a rollable, paper-like display in two years, but it only took them a few months to have a prototype ready. From the article: 'The Readius is the world's first prototype of a functional electronic-document reader that can unroll its display to a scale larger than the device itself. With four gray levels, the monochrome, 5-inch QVGA (320 pixels x 240 pixels) display provides paper-like viewing with a high contrast ratio. Once the user has finished reading, the display can be rolled back into the pocket-size (100 mm x 60 mm x 20 mm) device.'"
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  • need higher resolution and more gray level (Score:4, Insightful)

    by yagu ( 721525 ) * <yayagu@[ ]il.com ['gma' in gap]> on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:06AM (#13487188) Journal

    From the article: With four gray levels, the monochrome, 5-inch QVGA (320 pixels x 240 pixels) display provides paper-like viewing comfort with a high contrast ratio for reading-intensive applications, including text, graphics, and electronic maps.

    This is the type of screen resolution for my Digital Reader, the resolution that made me send it back the day I got it. There's nothing paper-like about reading dot-matrix like resolutions. The eye doesn't adapt but instead becomes increasingly fatigued.

    This technology may have some application for computer-like applications. I was hoping for e-books. This screen resolution won't cut that....

    • Give it some time. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by CyricZ ( 887944 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:10AM (#13487206)
      There was a time when the best personal computers had screens of that quality. But over time the technology develops, and things will improve. While not perfect, I would hardly suggest that this technology is useless. It is merely a stepping stone to far greater achievements.

      • Re:Give it some time. (Score:2, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward
        Zig-Zag had this years ago

      • Re:Give it some time. (Score:5, Interesting)

        by QuantumG ( 50515 ) <qg@biodome.org> on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:53AM (#13487437) Homepage Journal
        Yes, but the difference is that producers of four greyscale monitors actually sold units which gave them money to do development to produce more capable monitors. These guys, on the other hand, are likely going to not bother trying to get sales until they have a 256 greyscale display and then they'll charge too much for it to try to make up their development costs and the technology will fade into obscurity.

        • If they can mass produce it ... (Score:5, Interesting)

          by TeXMaster ( 593524 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @03:16AM (#13487902)
          It depends on application. If you had read the article, you'd have seen that they do not intend to market the thing directly, but rather
          the Readius was created in order to demonstrate the viability of the rollable-display concept in mobile applications and to gain customer feedback at the IFA 2005.
          There are things that could benefit from this kind of advancement, even at the current state of things: GPS devices, for example, and even cell phones: even though these days we're used to colorful thingies which can do everything but guarantee you can make phone calls, there some of us (*raises hand*) which want nothing more than the ability to make phone calls and write and read SMS. The ability to do it on a wider screen extensible on purpose would be an extremely nice thing. Think about a one- or two-lines display that can roll up to enclose an entire SMS or addressbook without the need to scroll.

          Another major selling point could be the ability to stay 'on' the whole time while still sucking up less battery. How much battery is sucked up by current displays? After all, there is a reason why all cellphones have screen savers or at least the ability to choose for how long after the key presses the display has to stay bright. Of course you might not be able to use your cellphone or iPod as nightlamp anymore ...

          While an extensible, always-on display could be a selling feature of some such portable device (oh yeah, did I mention portable music players?) it would still need to be priced reasonably. In-between the current B&W braindead displays and the current fancy color displays of phone-cams.

      • Yeah, but why is display technology moving so slow? I can't find a non-laptop 17" LCD monitor that can do 1600x1200. And 1600x1200 has been around for ages. I don't need fast 3D graphics or anything, I'd just like some detailed screens where i can't count then number of pixels in the non-antialiased white '/' character on a black terminal. which appears to be 10, on this computer's xterm.
    • Just like generation 1 computer screens...useless resolution, any color you wanted as long as it was amber or green. Look what they've evolved into.

      Give it time. This is "the world's first prototype".

    • It's a prototype. What do you want? It's not ready for prime time!

      Do you really think they would say "paper-like display in two years" and then throw something out in two months, and put it on the market? It will still be two years before something like this hits the shops.
    • Yea, I was really excited until I noticed the resolution.

      Paper like comfort *IF* the text was PRINTED using a dot matrix printer.. ;-)

    • Re:need higher resolution and more gray level (Score:5, Interesting)

      by mughi ( 32874 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:18AM (#13487258)

      This is the type of screen resolution for my Digital Reader, the resolution that made me send it back the day I got it. There's nothing paper-like about reading dot-matrix like resolutions. The eye doesn't adapt but instead becomes increasingly fatigued.

      This technology may have some application for computer-like applications. I was hoping for e-books. This screen resolution won't cut that....

      It all depends on the specifics of the device. I'ved used a Handspring Prism [pdasupport.com] with a resolution of only 160x160 for years for an ebook reader, and it's great. I've gone through quite a few, especially from Baen [baen.com]

      It ends up with a column width around that of an article in a newspaper or magazine, and is quite readable. Even when only using a limited number of colors (default fonts are only 1-bit) ti works well. I think much of it is due to having a white background. So the reflective properties and contrast of the display itself could make a huge difference.

    • Forget the resolution, look at the picture -- this stuff is much greyer than even newsprint. There's a reason real paper is white and so much money and effort goes into bleaching wood pulp to make it that way: the contrast makes it easier to read and reduces eyestrain.

      • Re:need higher resolution and more gray level (Score:5, Insightful)

        by jcl5m ( 519470 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @02:38AM (#13487782)
        This comment and the parent comment frustrate me. They are short-sighted criticisms of a fundamentally new technology. I've held samples of this technology in my hand, and its potential is staggering. Sure, the current prototypes are a bit crude in terms of contrast and resolution, but these are engineering issues that will go away with time and more R&D money.

        The two key features that make this a revolutionary new display technology is that it is thin and flexible (and can be manufactured and processed as giant sheets) and that it is bi-stable, meaning once you set the image it takes no power to retain that image. These two features are unlike any other display technology we have today, and unltimately will define the applications it is appropriate for. This really does have the potential to radically change periodical print media, personal printing, and poster/billboard advertising.

        In the future, I would encourage you to learn a little bit more about a new technology before saying it sucks.

        • Re:need higher resolution and more gray level (Score:5, Informative)

          by Afrosheen ( 42464 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @02:58AM (#13487836)
          If I were to bet on a winner in the race for flexible displays, I'd put my money on Fujitsu. Just a month or so ago they had an article on their prototype color (!) roll-up display that looked much better. It was also bi-stable. I'll take two when they're ready. :)
        • Well you're partly right however this is only a consequence on the press release. I'm sorry but 320x200 on a 5 inch screen is really far from "paper-like" viewing. Laser printing got a par with classical printing when it reached 600dpi. So I doubt you can get "paper-like" without at least 300dpi and a really high contrast.

          Also interesting for the thin, flexible and "no need to maintain power" part, the displayed prototype on have 80dpi resolution and AFAIK a really poor constrast. So I don't want to bash ne
    • The resolution isn't a big deal - we use virtually the same resolution for recording video blogs [vobbo.com] and the results are great. The color levels, though, will be the problems with this.

      It'll be great to watch as it develops though - if we could send videos of drunk girls [vobbo.com] via email/MMS out to handheld paper displays, I think college students could die happy.

    • Re:need higher resolution and more gray level (Score:5, Interesting)

      by DrKyle ( 818035 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @03:32AM (#13487974)
      If you look at this picture [polymervision.com] the display actually looks quite readable with quite a few lines of text. I imagine in a few years they will double the pixels, increase the contrast and use font smoothing to make it all the better.

      And I too have read ebooks on a smaller 320x240 display and found it easy enough to keep using 5 hours+ in a row during reading sessions.

  • Ready for primetime? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by gbulmash ( 688770 ) * <semi_famous@ya h o o .com> on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:06AM (#13487190) Homepage Journal
    Cool prototype and proof of concept, but is it ready for primetime with the specs? Four levels of gray are good for text, but poor for B&W photos and certain types of graphs. I'm not trying to denigrate it as an achievement, but as a product... I have some issues with it. Until it can do more shades and possibly a higher resolution, would it be more than a status gadget?

    - Greg

    • It will be ready enough for the applications that need it -- they'll be willing to put up with the high price/features&quality. Later it will get cheap and be everywhere.

      Just about everything you use started out really pricey and flaky -- but then got cheap and reliable.
    • Since it's only a prototype and not a product, and since they still have most of the two years until product release left, I'm guessing Philips does not see it as ready for primetime.

      I'm really excited about reflective (vs emissive, like color LCD) displays though. Computers just won't work well outside dimly lit offices until reflective displays are practical. Think about a large-screen TV with NO brightness issues; you want it brighter, just shine a lamp on it (like a painting).

    • Until it can do more shades and possibly a higher resolution, would it be more than a status gadget?

      you mean like the iPod?
    • I could see some kind of calculator device using it. My old TI-83 has a lower resolution and only has 1 level of grey (on and off...) but you can still do plenty with it.

    • Re:Ready for primetime? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by agent0range_ ( 472103 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:37AM (#13487356)
      "Polymer Vision does not intend to commercialize this concept as a product in the market. Instead, it is demonstrating the fitness of its rollable displays for use in future mobile devices."
      It's a good start. They said they'd have a prototype in 2 years, it took a few months... but it's nothing more than a proof of concept.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by account_deleted ( 4530225 )
      Comment removed based on user account deletion
    • Are there really so many people that don't know what a prototype is?

      A prototype isn't "Well, it's got a couple of bugs, but otherwise it's ready".

      A prototype is "if we cobble together these bits and pieces, you can get a general idea of what it might possibly look like once we've actually developed it"

  • Oh oh! (Score:5, Funny)

    by saskboy ( 600063 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:10AM (#13487205) Homepage Journal
    This is going to completely ruin the blonde joke involving computer screens and white out!

  • How tough is it? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mashade ( 912744 ) <mshade@noSpAm.mshade.org> on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:11AM (#13487214) Homepage
    This looks like a cool new technology, but how useful can it be? I'm wondering how durable the 'film screen' is. Can I accidentally rip it, pulling it out of a pocket? I'm interested to see prototypes in other such designs, but I'm having a hard time figuring out how useful something like this may be.
    • You can easily rip paper pulling it out of your pocket. If anything, this technology will most likely be stronger than paper. Of course, that does not mean that it is invulnerable. But compared to paper, it may very well be far more durable.

      • Ripped paper is still readable. But yeah..I expect this will be far more durable than paper.

      • Re:How tough is it? (Score:3, Insightful)

        by aussie_a ( 778472 )
        You can easily rip paper pulling it out of your pocket.

        Will it have a paper-like price-tag (bumped up slightly for it's more durable state)? If yes, great. Otherwise it being fragile is a real concern. Now I'm by no means rough with my expensive gadgets, but if it's too flimsy when unrolling it, it's usefulness is decreased dramatically.

        Also, how easy will it be to keep this thing open? And do you really need both hands? Reading something so small two handed can be annoying (please leave the jokes f

    • Re:How tough is it? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by OzRoy ( 602691 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:19AM (#13487269)
      From the picture it seems to just give devices the ability to expand the screen out so you can have a very portable device with a large screen.

      So think of a mobile phone sized device that can expand out to screen size of a PSP (or something like that). Then give that screen touch pad or stylus abilities, and a powerful CPU and you have an ultimate generic portable PC with game, mp3 and organiser abilities.
    • "This looks like a cool new technology, but how useful can it be? I'm wondering how durable the 'film screen' is. Can I accidentally rip it, pulling it out of a pocket? I'm interested to see prototypes in other such designs, but I'm having a hard time figuring out how useful something like this may be."

      It means a lower weight device with much lower power consumption. I like the idea of one of these devices as a simple e-book reader that runs on a single AA.

  • Big version of the image in the article... (Score:5, Informative)

    by mrchaotica ( 681592 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:12AM (#13487221)
    ...here [polymervision.com] , and other images here [polymervision.com].

  • omg... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by EtherealStrife ( 724374 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:14AM (#13487233)
    Earth: Final Conflict, anyone?

    E:FC MCI "Global" [jjambproductions.com]

    Yet another case of companies ripping off scifi inventions. The only difference is the EFC ones were badged MCI. And of course, the Philips ones are functional. :)

    That having been said, I can't wait to pick one up!

    • Re:omg... (Score:3, Insightful)

      by raitchison ( 734047 )

      That was the first thing I was thinking too! Can't wait to pick one of these up in the sto'or.

      Seriously though, most of the rest of the global technology already exists, essentiall it's a video/camera phone with the roll-up display. Of course the real time video phone technology as well as the truly global (& orbital) range are a long ways off practicality wise.

      It's definitely reasonable to expect a device very similar to the EFC Global within our lifetimes.

    • Stargate SG-1 had a similar looking device in the episode "Window of Opportunity". The alien archeologist on the planet with the time manipulator had one.

    • Re:omg... (Score:3, Funny)

      by Moridineas ( 213502 )
      I wonder when I can get one from the sto'or?

  • press release from polymervision (Score:5, Informative)

    by maroonhat ( 845773 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:14AM (#13487235)
    a press release from the screen's manufacturer can be found here:
    http://www.polymervision.com/New-Center/Press-Rele ases/Article-14693.html [polymervision.com]

  • This will revolutionize schools (Score:5, Funny)

    by Crimsane ( 815761 ) <clarke@nullfs.com> on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:14AM (#13487237) Homepage
    Now, instead of finding little jimmy reading a penthouse stuffed in between pages of his math textbook, we will catch him salavating to Debbie Does Dallas.

    Now thats progress.

  • Red Planet (Score:5, Interesting)

    by gkozlyk ( 247448 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:15AM (#13487239) Homepage
    Now all we need is a computer device like the ones they used in the movie 'Red Planet'.
  • *$2,000 Paper! *Finally I can code and send my source via bottle while stranded on a tropical island. *"Only true hax0rs send their pc's by mail TUBE." *Overhead projectors = the obsolete? *One more extraneous piece of equipment I can buy, not buy the extended warranty on, and break? Sounds hot, I'll take one.

  • The Ultimate PDA (Score:5, Funny)

    by KrackHouse ( 628313 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:24AM (#13487287) Homepage
    PDAs leave an unsightly bulge in my pants. If I could install Skype on something like that and use it as a cellphone when rolled up - I'd have everything I'd ever need in a communications device - for reals.
  • for the SI impaired: ~ 4in x 2.4in x 0.75in.

    Reminds me of that prop on SG-1 in Window of Opportunity with the guy's wife's picture on it, except that was color (and was a lot better than 320x240 :)
  • The display of a Zaurus 5500SL is 3.5" diagonal for a (color) QVGA screen. This one is much bigger -- about twice as big. Think two Zaurus 5500SL's screens side by side when that rolled display is extended.

    But I agree. Get it to a higher resolution and color, and you got yourself a deal.

  • Great military potential (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Hello active camoflage.

  • E-Ink (Score:4, Interesting)

    by foniksonik ( 573572 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:35AM (#13487343) Homepage Journal
    Furtherdown in the article it mentions very blithely that the technology powering it comes from none other than E-Ink [eink.com] which explains the quicker than expected turn around. It's Phillips branded and integrated but the tech that makes it work is E-Ink Corp's.

    Check out their site to see the roadmap... we should be seeing much improved versions of this gadget very soon.

    • Whoops, looks like E=Ink has removed much of the forward looking information from their site since the last time I looked at them... guess they are letting their partner companies make the big announcements.

    • Re:E-Ink (Score:5, Informative)

      by Bender_ ( 179208 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:54AM (#13487443) Journal
      It's Phillips branded and integrated but the tech that makes it work is E-Ink Corp's.

      That is not true. Each display has a frontplane (the display mechanism) and a backplane (the transistors that control it).

      As far as I understand it, only the front plane is by e-Ink. The back plane was apparently entirely developed by polymer vision.

      An interesting fact is, that it is based on organic electronics. (check out the tech section). If they manage to bring this display to market, it will probably be the first commercial application of organic electronic.

  • That's Great but... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Ride Jib ( 879374 )
    Can it run Linux? But on a serious note, my school (www.clemson.edu) has been working on this same project for a couple years now. I can't find any information on it at the moment, but all the commercials promoting the school have this project in it.

  • Only a few month? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Bender_ ( 179208 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:40AM (#13487378) Journal
    few months ago Philips promised a rollable, paper-like display in two years, but it only took them a few months..

    The new thing is the reader. Functional prototypes of the displays have been presented way earlier, as obvious from many older articles on slashdot. The displays have been under development for at least five years. Check out the publications from the polymervision website:

      H. E. A. Huitema, G. H. Gelinck, J. B. P. H. van der Putten, K. E. Kuijk, C. M. Hart, E. Cantatore, P. T. Herwig, A. J. J. M. van Breemen, D. M. de Leeuw, Plastic transistors in active-matrix displays, Nature 2001, 414, 599.

    G. H. Gelinck, T. C. T. Geuns, D. M. de Leeuw,High-performance all-polymer integrated circuits, Appl. Phys. Lett. 2000, 77, 1487-1489.

    C. J. Drury, C. M. J. Mutsaerts, C. M. Hart, M. Matters, D. M. de Leeuw, Low-cost all-polymer integrated circuits., Appl. Phys. Lett. 1998, 73, 108-110.

  • This is a great development. I hope we all realise that rollable paper has an enormous market today, perhaps even larger than the desktop/notebook market. For the first time, here's a medium in a form factor that is direct competetition to print newspapers, magazines and books.

    People said the same thing when the internet came, but they underestimated the importance that we give to the flexibilty of paper - it can be rolled, folded, tucked in your suitcase, offer a large view etc. Now finally, we have a ch

    • I agree... the market for rollable paper is indeed huge, however, one-hitters and bongs are quickly gaining marketshare. PAPERS! we don't need no stinkin' papers :)

      Sorry.. you made an interesting and serious post but I just couldn't resist.

      G
       

  • Buttons on the top (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Dan East ( 318230 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @12:57AM (#13487463) Journal
    I read ebooks daily on my 240x320 Pocket PC (I use it landscape for reading at 320x240, just like in the article photo). I seldom hold the device in one hand, as they indicate. The most comfortable method for me, allowing for reading for long periods of time, is to use both hands and "encircle" the device with my fingers. If you touch your index finger-tips together, as well as your thumb-tips, forming a rectangle that would encircle the device, you'll see what I mean.

    My Pocket PC (Asus a716) has buttons on the top (when held landscape) that I can push with either index finger.

    The main problem I see with this prototype is they force you to hold the device with your left hand in a specific position to operate the buttons. Hopefully an engineer will have the foresight to put multiple sets of page up / down buttons on the device so it can be utilized in different ways.

    Dan East

  • Flat speakers (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    If these displays are combined with flat bendable speakers [discovery.com] and the economics of scale, we could have a whole new era of interactive user interfaces.

  • Here's a better image (Score:4, Funny)

    by elronxenu ( 117773 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @01:06AM (#13487499) Homepage
    Early Prototype [meridianmagazine.com] - note some burn-in and also edge distortion. I'm looking forward to seeing a more advanced version soon!

  • Nattering Nabobs of Negativity (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Continental ( 738540 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @01:08AM (#13487509)
    Christ, if the moon was made of cheese you people would complain that it wasn't Brie de Meaux. This is the first step to e-paper! Any tech that gets us closer to a more interesting future I'm all in favor of. The first car didn't go 120 and have heated seats. The first e-paper won't be hi-def and touch sensitive. Or whatever else you're complaining about.
    • i agree with you, i'll still wait for more advanced models to begin considering as a viable business solution, but as i see it there are a lot of possibilities(for us IT guys), getting your paper every day, with hourly updates, better screens for visualizing telemetry data, a whole new generation of PDA's. i think these screens are something cool

    • Mod Parent Up (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anti-Trend ( 857000 )
      Parent is right, this technology is astounding and it's only in the prototype phase for crying out loud. Will the technology improve in the future? Almost certainly. Does it have useful implications right now in its current form? Absolutely. I wouldn't be incredibly surprised if paper displays become the successor to plasma (when/if plasma becomes more mainstream), but isn't it a bit unfair to expect something to be technologically perfected right out of the starting gate?

      -AT

    • The first car wasn't trying to replace something that went 120mph with heated seats, was it? Wasn't it replacing a horse? E-paper is attempting to replace paper so there's nothing wrong with expecting it to be as easy to read as real printed paper. Otherwise, what's the point?

  • thankfully... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by KillShill ( 877105 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @01:18AM (#13487542)
    they won't cripple such a useful invention in order to please the copyright cartel?

    right? right...?
  • The screenshots appear to have windows icons on them, but the non-screen part of the device apparently has a Gumstix computer in it. Which means that this device is likely running Linux, and just displaying screen dumps from some other device, rather than actually running WinCE.

  • best use for this: (Score:3, Interesting)

    by OwlofCreamCheese ( 645015 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @01:48AM (#13487640)
    wallpaper

  • Very slow response time of 0.5 - 1 s (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Bushcat ( 615449 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @02:04AM (#13487682)
    From http://www.polymervision.com/Technology/CurrentSpe cifications/Index.html [polymervision.com], it seems the response time is 0.5 - 1 s with a reflectance of 35 - 40% and a contrast ratio of 10:1. Even given it's a first generation product, it's going to look a bit murky.

  • Obligatory stolen joke from last time round (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I couldn't find the post by the original author from a couple of years ago when these displays were first mentioned on slashdot.
    So its a porno
    and a tissue? Convenient.

  • Gripe Gripe Gripe (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @02:39AM (#13487787)
    Whats with some of you people? You're all technically competent, probably more so than I. Yet when reading your comments, it's clear you're not looking beyond even today. Look at some of these gripes...

    "There's nothing paper-like about reading dot-matrix like resolutions."

    "this stuff is much greyer than even newsprint. There's a reason real paper is white"

    "Cool prototype and proof of concept, but is it ready for primetime with the specs?"

    Of course it isn't! Thats why it's a prototype!! It'll get brighter and more... erm... contrastier... and the resolution will increase. It's not like they expect you to buy and use one today.

    • Re:Gripe Gripe Gripe (Score:3, Insightful)

      by FlynnMP3 ( 33498 )
      "You're all technically competent..."

      Better yet, imagine /. contributors as pimply faced pubescent hormonally challenged ADD strung out teenagers that have nothing better to do than to offer their viewpoint of how much things suck. Furthermore, imagine the moderators as 1 step up from that, barely able to look above the /. party line or groupthink.

      Heck, I know that is a gross over simplification and stereotype. I look at it this way, imagine bottom of the barrel and when something better comes along, you'

  • Twistability (Score:3, Funny)

    by Wills ( 242929 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @06:08AM (#13488456)
    Will we be able to twist a Readius into a Moebius?

  • Prototype Rollable Paper-like Display Ready Early (Score:3)

    by malia8888 ( 646496 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @08:26AM (#13488923)
    If it is "Rollable" and "Paperlike" in my domicile it is doomed to failure.

    Nobody puts paper back on the roll around here!

  • Bedsheets (Score:3, Funny)

    by rubberbando ( 784342 ) on Tuesday September 06, 2005 @10:57AM (#13489834)
    Now only if they could make bedsheets with this technology for all the pr0n lovers out there....

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