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Intergration Is Key To Adoption (3, Insightful)

Real World Stuff (561780) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947397)

The tranparency of the Apps over the OS are even more relevant. Google is a company of "must haves", and the stock price at 385 and strong reflects this.

Re:Intergration Is Key To Adoption (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947557)

the stock price at 385 and strong reflects this.

To me its a stock bubble waiting to happen. competition is growing quickly and googles main marketshare along with search technology is going to be equal if not bested by yahoo and microsoft someday. The pagerank algorithm had its good times, but this company is NOT worth as much as cisco, and other top technology players. It is however worth $100-200 a share.. people I am afraid are getting ahead of themselfs.
 
Oh and if the bubble does burst the google guys will be laughing all the way to the bank because they are all millionares already anyways.

Intergration? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947586)

Intergration? What about intragration and retrogration?

Re:Intergration Is Key To Adoption (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947671)

Oh, the sweet spyware! I must install everything the Google produces, because I am a fucking Google-fanboi !

Isn't Larry Page just about the cutes and horniest looking fagot in the Googleverse ?

<3 <3 GoOgLe <3 <3

On my Mac right now... (3, Funny)

MadChicken (36468) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947401)

Can I insall it vicariously?

Anyone?

Re:On my Mac right now... (1)

beisbol (173766) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947606)

yeah, for a "microsoft killer" they seem to love releasing windows only software.

Re:On my Mac right now... (3, Interesting)

anti-trojan (741754) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947652)

That's purely logical. They are bombarding people with Google apps running on Windows (Google Talk, Gmail notifier, Google Desktop, soon a Google Browser and Google Office Applications). You are getting used to them.

Next year when they say "you are using all Google-applications on your Windows anyway. Why don't you just download our GoogleOS preloaded with those applications (and more) and save money instead of paying to Microsoft", more people will say "sure, why not."

Re:On my Mac right now... (4, Funny)

ForumTroll (900233) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947736)

More speculation about a GoogleOS....

Google Fanboy: They made an email app, a desktop search bar and an IM client, HOW COULD THEY NOT BE MAKING AN OS????

Yes but... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947402)

Does it run linux?

Re:Yes but... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947444)

With a dash of wine while crossing over the office, perhaps it can!

Re:Yes but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947627)

Insightful? Bah...

As it gets warm, it'll trickle down to a halt. This isn't counting after so many bugs begin homing into the glass to echo non-fatal debugging points. Somewhere in Siberia, there is a sole Trangendered Linux user sipping this on his Soviet BeoWulf cluster. I hear it runs quite fast in the sub-0 conditions. That proves anti-Microsoft vengence is best served cold.

Re:Yes but... (1)

panth0r (722550) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947649)

I have no clue what the hell that means...

No. Wake me up when it does (3, Interesting)

vik (17857) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947505)

You never know, Beagle might be usable before Google get their desktop going on Linux. But the Beagle keeps chewing up my memory, so I'm dropping back to using x-friend even though it's not Open Source.

If anyone has any better alternatives for us Linux bunnies, do tell the world!

Vik :v)

Re:Yes but... (2, Insightful)

panth0r (722550) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947615)

I know what you mean, but I believe you should be saying "Does it run on linux?" [other mistakes not corrected, I would write it as "Does it run on GNU/Linux?" How this was modded insightful, I'll never understand.

So what? (4, Insightful)

markusbkoch (909876) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947634)

When are people going to understand that Google is a business just like any other?

Being a business, they must focus on the return over their investment, which is much faster achieved when you develop something for the masses. Last time I checked, the masses were running Windows, not Linux or any other open source OS.

And BTW, they WILL do evil if that makes stocks go up!

Uh, hasn't it been out since August? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947405)

I could swear I've got installed already.

Re:Uh, hasn't it been out since August? (1)

Rayaru (898516) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947422)

Yeah, but apparantly it came out of "beta" status now.

Re:Uh, hasn't it been out since August? (3, Funny)

aaza (635147) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947460)

Yeah, but apparantly it came out of "beta" status now.

Wait, are you saying that something Google released is out of beta?

(No I didn't read the article, and I find it amusing that almost nothing from Google ever makes it out of beta)

Re:Uh, hasn't it been out since August? (2, Interesting)

gmplague (412185) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947614)

Yeah, while I realize you're joking, I actually really like it.

Google probably wouldn't release most of these products at all were it not for the Google labs/beta pages. They've got people writing interesting software which maybe isn't mass marketable but is still neat nonetheless.

Even if the software is really stable, they keep it in beta. They don't have to pay to support it, so they can keep it out there. I like it.

Re:Uh, hasn't it been out since August? (1)

aaza (635147) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947697)

Thank you for noticing I was joking - I was going for funny mods.

I actually do like Google, and some of the stuff I have seen from them is pretty cool, actually. I have a gmail account, I use their search, I have used Google Calculator functions on search (if that's what it's called).

In short, they do really cool stuff, and release it for free.

Pure speculation, but do the guy and gals at GoogleLabs have conversations like this:
Programmer 1: Hey wouldn't it be cool if we could #####
Programmer 2: That would be awesome. Completely useless to the general public, but a few geeks would love it
Programmer 1: Lets do it, just to see if we can. If we release it Beta, it doesn't really matter if it works.
Programmer 2: Yeah, lets do it!

To the Google guys: Keep up the good work.

love is in the air (0, Offtopic)

ScuttleEnough (898616) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947406)

i think that linux is kind of lame and others probably believe so too.

Re:love is in the air (0, Redundant)

andrewbillits (882798) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947584)

oh yeah, smart idea there buddy. Poke fun at linux on SLASHDOT!

wrong. (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947425)

"Dozens of third party plugins now avaliable"

i dont see "dozens of third party plugins". most of these plugins have been around for a long time already.

Re:wrong. (2, Insightful)

Masami Eiri (617825) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947537)

You seem to miss the meaning of "Now Available." They never said "new" in there anywhere.

Re:wrong. (1)

sturat (139743) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947675)

You seem to miss the meaning of "Now Available." They never said "new" in there anywhere.


Yeah, like just today I was driving by a car yard that had a sign "Used cars! Now available with four wheels!!"

Google (tm) Air (5, Insightful)

MandoSKippy (708601) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947428)

Breath fresh Google Air (tm) as you drive you your Google (tm) Car will sipping on your Google(tm) latte while... And we are worried about Microsoft?

Re:Google (tm) Air (2, Interesting)

aaza (635147) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947480)

But Google says Do no evil. Where does it say that for Microsoft?

Re:Google (tm) Air (2, Funny)

devilsadvoc8 (548238) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947503)

It means we don't need to fear the monsterous offspring of a Google/Microsoft copulation.

Re:Google (tm) Air (1)

IANAAC (692242) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947714)

They say a lot of things, like any other company. The proof is in the pudding.

(I'll leave it to you to decide whether I meant that as a good or bad thing)

Re:Google (tm) Air (1)

the-amazing-blob (917722) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947493)

at least in your future they haven't trademarked verbs.

I still believe it's too early to start putting on the tin foil hats.

Re:Google (tm) Air (2, Insightful)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947545)

I imagine it won't be much longer before it becomes fashionable to hate Google around here. Judging from your post and the subsequent moderation to it, it's already started to happen.

That's not to say I think your concern is unfounded. Actually I agree with you. I still can't believe how often I hear their corporate tag-line parroted any time somebody criticizes Google's growth. "Google's getting pretty big!" "Yeah but they do no evil!" Heh.

Re:Google (tm) Air (3, Insightful)

Omestes (471991) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947576)

What nasty thing has Google done, yet?

I LIKE Google, and don't see how this service can make them suddenly evil? Look, we made a desktop search app, and a bunch of other really neat gagdets! And all we ask of you is to look at an ad that might actually be interested from time to time! That sounds pretty vile, much more vile than Microsoft.

I guess, though, unlike most /monkeys I need an actual reason to hate a company, not just the fact that they are big, and most people use them. MS does nasty things, Google hasn't yet, and that is enough for me.

Re:Google (tm) Air (2, Interesting)

miffo.swe (547642) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947679)

"I guess, though, unlike most /monkeys I need an actual reason to hate a company, not just the fact that they are big, and most people use them."

If you havent noticed /. is pretty much under seige by Microsofties and astroturfers. Not many dislike google since they have done nothing wrong yet. Except ofcourse your average MS fanboy who hates everything that MS hates. It would be a sweet task to break down the visitors IP and do some tracking. I suspect a fair number of google hating IP goes to MS VARs, partners or Redmond.

Re:Google (tm) Air (3, Insightful)

osbjmg (663744) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947798)

I'm down with google too.. but what about the other big company out there (Uncle Sam) asking google for all these nicely documented users, er - citizens? They may be forced to hand over information that the government hasn't been able to correlate. Google stores it all, they don't have a policy for deleting old data and that is the main problem for me anyway.

Re:Google (tm) Air (2, Insightful)

miffo.swe (547642) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947647)

Google is into search technology, Microsoft is into everything profitable in the desktop market. They sell a bunch of other things like Xbox, keyboards, mice etc. Google is into open source, Microsoft wants its head on a silver platter. Microsoft has been convicted atleast two times for being a predatory monopoly and has bought itself free from countless of charges and trials. Microsoft is working hard at killing any competition or startups threating to bring new cool stuff Microsoft doesnt have. This while Google is working even harder at bringing new products and just ignores the competition. Microsoft has not exactly been an catalysator for the desktop development. Without Apple we would still be using something like Windows 3.1.

Ill think ill take my chances with Google (tm) air thank you.

Um, what? (2, Insightful)

HoneyBunchesOfGoats (619017) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947731)

I don't get this paranoia about Google. Why is it a concern that they have lots of different products? Would you not buy a General Mills cereal because they make several other kinds of foods too? If you don't like Google products, don't install them, nobody forces you. Last time I checked, going to their website was optional, too (and I don't think that's going to change).

Re:Google (tm) Air (2, Funny)

lunax (235701) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947750)

yeah but:
gAir would smell fresh with the ocasional seafood aroma. MS-Air would have the essence of stale dog crap. The gCar would produce gAir as it's exhaust, and as we all know the MS-Car would crash and get broken into easily. gLatte amd MS-Latte would actually be re-branded Starbucks, but nobody would know that.

But... (2, Funny)

Jesselnz (866138) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947440)

Will it run on my NetBSD toaster?

Looks interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947441)

Let me know when they come out with a Google Desktop gdesklet.

Slick... very slick (4, Informative)

lamasquerade (172547) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947443)

I installed the original Desktop search, but since moving computers hadn't bothered to reinstall. I have just installed this new version and it is one very slick little app. I don't usually like giving up screen real-estate but I decided to try the sidebar and so far I'm impressed. I can see a lot I'll be able to use, not least the scratch pad instead of opening up notepad for one-liners. The to-do list is cool too - I know it sounds so simple, but my workload comes from two service desk queues, plus other projects, plus ad-hoc email requests - and I think just jotting down a few tasks to get done today in the morning might help organise things for the day rather than flitting about between tasks all day.

As I said, some simple tools, but helpful, and well organised. As for the desktop search itself, we can now specify network drives to index which is really cool for the dis-organised mess of nested folders that is my corporate drive. Gmail search can't get through my firewall unfortunately. The News search is great, it seems to have figured out my habits from history - I haven't visited any news sites except slashdot since installing and it's already got some new stories from my favourite sites... Plus some seemingly random interesting maps and blogs... no doubt these will cancel out any gains to my productivity made by ease of finding things:)

So all in all, first impression is a good one.

btw, does anyone know a way to create a firefox keyword to search the with this? It seems to need a session id to work, but maybe there's a way round?

Re:Slick... very slick (1)

binarybum (468664) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947456)

yes, I haven't installed it yet, but the ability to index network drives is absolutely key. great news!

Re:Slick... very slick (1)

zhangyong (791280) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947644)

Just downloaded a beta2, not noticing anything it said update complete to my previous version, strangest update I ever had... Btw., my best experience is to add an windows media player ActiveX plugin to the panel, and I can listen to NPR radio or MP3 without being spotted by boss on my screen;-) ... well, I do have to wear an earphone, don't I?

Re:Slick... very slick (2, Informative)

ericmarshall (844287) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947818)

They have a plugin for searching Google Desktop from the Firefox search bar here [google.com] .

Uh-oh Google farted! (4, Funny)

0xdeaddead (797696) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947452)

Keep those press release comming! If it ain't SCO, SCOX, its gotta be Google!

I needs my fix already!

Now if google would do something with Natilie Portman.........

Not Exactly Desktop Yet (4, Insightful)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947458)

It has a couple functions but to call it a desktop is way too early. The question is when will Google stop riding the bear. "Requires Windows XP or Windows 2000 SP 3+".

Re:Not Exactly Desktop Yet (1)

putko (753330) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947676)

Well I guess RiscOS and OpenBSD users will just have to wait then, won't they?

Re:Not Exactly Desktop Yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947744)

"The Bear will hang itself with Google's rope" or something like that...

Mac/Linux/FreeBSD versions? (1)

fak3r (917687) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947464)

It seems that this would be a boom to open for other platforms, esp ones like Linux who haven't yet been taken over by the Beagle (beta) or any other type of 'overall' search utility. I don't think I need one, but who knows, I didn't think I'd like my ipod as much as I do...

nervous (0, Redundant)

jimmy69 (928365) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947467)

I don't think i could perform on my desktop if i thought it was all happening LIVE!

Stock Price (5, Funny)

kmartshopper (836454) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947476)

You would think that they would have put up a screenshot of the sidebar where their stock was up rather than down $4.17.

Re:Stock Price (0, Offtopic)

Pichu0102 (916292) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947839)

They try to act humble.
However, humbleness missed a spot [blogspot.com] with that +4.6? number you can make out there.

Is this actually new? (0)

jdub_dub (874345) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947485)

If someone installs this, can they please confirm that this is actually new? Go into "About..." and find the version number. Mine (which I installed months ago, and still has Beta status) is version Google Desktop 20050818-en.

Re:Is this actually new? (1)

harp2812 (891875) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947564)

Just installed, and it's Google Desktop 20051101-en

Re:Is this actually new? (1)

markusbkoch (909876) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947573)

Yes, it really is: Google Desktop 20051101-en

Why not just use a browser? (1)

max born (739948) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947487)

I can't see the advantage of having this funcationality on the desktop as opposed to a browser except it may be easier for hackers writing third party apps that take advantage of unsforeen secuirty problems which then reflect badly on google. What are they thinking? More ads?

Google desktop (2, Insightful)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947496)

I looked at it, and I don't honestly see what the big deal is.

Re:Google desktop (1)

ForumTroll (900233) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947613)

I agree. It looks like an ugly version of gDesklets [gnomedesktop.org] or Konfabulator [konfabulator.com] except it doesn't have even close to as many useful widgets. It also includes a large ugly Google symbol on the top bar which it seems can't be removed. It's also another Google product that is available only for Windows.

Re:Google desktop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947624)

Glad to see I am not the only one.

Re:Google desktop (1)

blackpaw (240313) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947694)

Yah, I've installed it, tried to like it, just can't find a use for it. Its being uninstalled now.

I don't like this aggregated crap, I prefer using the various specialised simple tools i have for search, news etc.

Hmm (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947497)

Installing it forces a reboot under Windows XP Pro.

I thought those days were over. :(

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947655)

I didn't have to reboot... it made me quit AIM and Firefox though.

Re:Hmm (1)

MaXiMiUS (923393) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947841)

Eh? I just installed it on XP Pro, didn't force ME to reboot o.O You prolly have software that it needed to reboot to be compatible with. I know my NOD32 AntiVirus couldn't even RUN with GDS1 >->

I for one... (1, Funny)

kmartshopper (836454) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947500)

I for one welcome our new Desktop overlords...

(sorry, I had to...)

won't install for me (1)

way2trivial (601132) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947501)

tried three times

error msg
"d 8007000320051101- could not upgrade database. " mentions something about possible lack of available drive space,
I have 3.27, 38.3, and 289 gigabytes free respectively.

'course, I'm also running in a SBS server enviroment, and have been having problems with reg key permissions lately.

tried running as administrator, and with the 'safe procedures only' unticked.. but still no dice.

Re:won't install for me (2, Informative)

tapo (855172) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947718)

Yeah, I have had that problem too and it's been in since beta and version 1. Google's customer support says they're "looking into a resolution for this particular issue". In other words, sorry, no Google Desktop for you.

And What about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947525)

yahoo's new mind blowing map? where is that news? more i read slashdot, the more I am tending to believe that slashdot editors are part of google's pr machine. so a crappy product goes out of beta - big deal!

A miss for Google? (1)

RobertF (892444) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947560)

I don't know about this one. This reminds me of those stupid "buddy" applications spyware would install to feign usefulness. Or like AIM or YIM or whatever that deliver you stocks, weather, news, ect. all in one place where I don't want it. Information overload, you know? But I'm sort of wondering over this, from Google Desktop's privacy policy:

The Google Desktop application indexes and stores versions of your files and other computer activity, such as email, chats, and web history. These versions may also be mixed with your Web search results to produce results pages for you that integrate relevant content from your computer and information from the Web.

Is this limited to using, say, Gmail and Google Talk? Or is this just plain, all emails on my computer and all chat logs and all my browser histories? Anyone know? It's rather ambiguous, and I really don't like that in a privacy policy...

Re:A miss for Google? (1)

damiam (409504) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947664)

AFAIK, it imports emails from Outlook (and other programs) and history from IE/Firefox. Not sure about chat logs. But it's not like you're not warned; after all, the whole reason you would install it is so that it can index these files.

Re:A miss for Google? (1)

kurzweilfreak (829276) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947668)

Nowhere there does it say that it sends that information back to Google. It just says that it mixes it into your websearches. I'm sure this is all done by the app on your local computer with none of that private info going back up the stream. It indexes all the stuff on your computer that you let it, not just Google-related products. That's kinda the point.

Re:A miss for Google? (1)

osssmkatz (734824) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947711)

This is true. It runs a local webserver. When you type in www.google.com, the webserver requests the page. It adds a 'Desktop' tab. When you search the web, the *local* webserver adds results from Google Desktop Search. You can turn this off in Preferences, but either way, the only IP address that recieves your desktop search results are 127.0.1

Re:A miss for Google? (1)

DavidTC (10147) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947782)

It's not ambigious. It quite clearly indexes all emails, chat, browser history, and frankly everything it can understand on your computer.

However, that's not really relevant to the privacy policy, as it doesn't send that anywhere outside your computer.

Does anyone actually USE Google Desktop? (3, Interesting)

rinkjustice (24156) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947570)

I've installed every version of google desktop since inception, hoping every time that I'll find use for it. But I never do. It just sits there on my desktop, taking up real estate and looking fugly.

Other than replacing XP's pathetic search feature, it's really alot of nothing.

Re:Does anyone actually USE Google Desktop? (1)

octaene (171858) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947622)

It just sits there on my desktop, taking up real estate and looking fugly.

No doubt. I've installed all the new versions too. I just got no value from it. All my e-mail and system files are organized; I don't need any kind of search function. Mod parent up.

Re:Does anyone actually USE Google Desktop? (1)

fmaxwell (249001) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947783)

No doubt. I've installed all the new versions too. I just got no value from it. All my e-mail and system files are organized; I don't need any kind of search function. Mod parent up.

Then you don't have many e-mails and files. Anyone who has several tens of thousands of e-mails (personal, listservers, etc.) will find Google Desktop search useful. When all that you can remember is that someone sent you something in e-mail that, as an aside, mentioned a problem with program XYZ, you won't be able to find it without a good search tool. Unless you're some newbie whose idea of a long time is back to 2002.

Re:Does anyone actually USE Google Desktop? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947643)

The answer to this question is Yes. I use it quite a bit at work for the email search. Its much faster than Oultook's search feature when trying to find specific text in an email. It will also show you the threads of emails that are related.

Re:Does anyone actually USE Google Desktop? (1)

anti-trojan (741754) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947745)

You should try Lookout instead of Outlook's default search feature. I'm not using Outlook anymore but Lookout was faster than anything then.

Re:Does anyone actually USE Google Desktop? (1)

Jett (135113) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947706)

I use it every day at work - it's great for tracking down random missing files (which I have to do frequently unfortunately), keeping track of notes and to-do stuff (which I do all day long), and it provides an easy way to scan the news and monitor the weather (I have no windows so I'm never sure if I need to bring my jacket when I take my break) without having to be obvious about it (don't want to give the wrong impression that I'm slacking). If you have to use multiple email accounts at the same time it's great to be able to see all your new emails in a single place - I have 3 seperate accounts that receive work related emails - often they show up in the google sidebar before they do in Outlook and since it reads gmail too I can monitor my personal account from it also. I also use a system monitoring plug-in to keep track of performance on my machine when I'm testing software out, that's less frequent though. If you set the sidebar to autohide it really takes up no screen real estate unless you actually need it. Oh, and the email search function is 1000x better than Outlooks (which sucks unless you do "advanced" and then it's still slow as all hell) - I use it to search my email all the time - one of the reasons I kept it after first installing it (and not being very impressed initially) is that Outlook's search function couldn't find an email I knew I had sent, I spent 10 minutes trying to track it down - the Google search found it in seconds - any program which saves my ass is going to get a thorough evaluation from me.

Re:Does anyone actually USE Google Desktop? (4, Informative)

MBCook (132727) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947739)

I've installed it on all the family Windows boxes, and it is helpful once in a while at finding documents (my parents are permanently unorganized in file structure). The ability of search your web history is neat, I'd probably use that a lot.

That said, I spend almost all my time on my Mac, so I have Spotlight.

I LOVE Spotlight.

With a quick key combination (based on keyboard placement, it would be like Alt-Space in the windows world) and then just type in stuff. The name of a document. A person's name. The name of an appointment. The name of a bookmark. The name of a folder. Some text in a document that I can't remember the name of. The name of a function in one of my programming projects (then just chose the header file it finds). It is fantastic. I even use it to launch programs (although I would prefer a version of the Run command in Windows, that is the one thing I miss). I know about Quicksilver and such but Spotlight works well enough for this.

It does seem to have gotten faster with the 10.4.3 update as well. Before sometimes I could type something in and it would take 15+ seconds for the first result to show up (this is a 1.677 GHz PB with 1GB of RAM), now the first results are always there in under a second (note, internal hard drive only; I don't know how it'd deal with multiple 800GB volumes some people use).

If you get Google Desktop and start using it, I think you'll love it (note: I've turned off the sidebar, just seems annoying to me). All it needs is a key command (Win-G maybe?) to launch it (note: might exist, haven't looked). While not as convenient as Spotlight (Google Desktop pulls up a web browser then you have to click, with spotlight I can use arrow keys, return, and various key combos), it will still be a major boon to you.

Now I'm a VERY organized person, and I still am. But now I can find that document by typing a few letters, instead of opening a few folders.

And if you accidently save something to the wrong place, it can be a GODSEND in finding it.

Is it still anti-security? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947580)

Is this still a nasty piece of crap that stupidly assumes everybody is always logged in as root all the time?

Are all their developers so stupid and Microsoft no-security idiots, or is it just their management forcing them into such an anti-security model?

Requires a restart (1)

muhgcee (188154) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947581)

Bad thing number one: Requires a reboot

Needs to be an actual DESKTOP (1)

ericdfields (638772) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947583)

A couple people have said it so far, but i think it can't be stated how much we actually need a real, living, breathing desktop environment with the google touch. I'm thinking Ubuntu with the google flair for seamless interactivity.

Now is probably not the time. Wait until they finish their OpenOffice experiemnts (and makes it web-based... if only as an 'on the go' version). I'm not too worried about all of our stuff being consumed by the Google Grid [slashdot.org] . So be it. We've been tormented in this Microsoft hell for long enough.

Now, just to be on the safe side, i'd say that 2009 is the year of (Googe) Desktop Linux.

Re:Needs to be an actual DESKTOP (1)

ForumTroll (900233) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947712)

I really doubt that Google is currently working on a full Linux desktop. They're a business and there's currently not a lot of money in the Linux desktop field, especially with so many free options out there that are making continuous and fast progress. Most people are more than happy to choose one of the freely available DE's. Furthermore, everything that Google has released so far that is not delivered over the web has been Windows only. How about we wait and see if they release any of these applications on Linux, MacOS X, BSD etc. at all before we speculate about them releasing a full DE. Currently, they've said that they have no plans to release any of these applications to any other platform other than Windows.

There's also a huge difference between the complexities of a DE compared to anything they've released so far in terms of desktop applications.

Uncle Rofl (1)

ferretous (14985) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947602)

Now if you want do some ogling of the fascinating moguling
Who give the irritating adverts from the britches of the fatcats
Who put the software on the desktops on the punters
From the boonies of the harem of the court of King Ridiculous,
You're too late!
Because they've just... passed... out!

First /post... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947604)

developers. The the numbers. The Confirmed that *!BSD

Awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947607)

That is fucking awesome! Now we can finally replace our useless Linux boxes with a usefull app.

does news work yet? (1)

SteveXE (641833) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947646)

I remember during the beta google said the news feature would show more news that you wanted and if you told it not to show you certain stories by clicking and removing them it would stop showing those types of stories. Well in the beta i would remove sports stories left and right but the majority of the news i kept getting was sports. Did google fix this problem or is the feature still junk?

Can they change the name (1)

Null Perception (914562) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947651)

To google garrison instead.

Um... (1)

Just-some-person (878949) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947659)

What's wrong with SuperKaramba and GDesklets?

Re:Um... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947720)

Nothing is wrong with them, but those are Linux apps. Google desktop is for Windows.

Re:Um... (2, Interesting)

fmaxwell (249001) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947755)

They only run on OSs with minimal market penetration, so most people can't run them.

Multi-User Support (1)

tabdelgawad (590061) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947672)

The big change for me from version 1 is that version 2 does multiple users correctly on Win2k and WinXP. Each user can separately choose to auto-launch and/or index files they have permission to view.

I don't have much use for the sidebar, but the Outlook (what I use at work) search is exceptionally good . Nothing like typing a few key words and finding that email from 6 months ago in 2 seconds. Puts the built-in search in Outlook to shame.

Re:Multi-User Support (1)

Just-some-person (878949) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947688)

...There's really no such thing as users on Windows...

Is it really something new? (2, Interesting)

yep-yep (847215) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947698)

I agree with a few statements already made this should not be called "desktop" yet. As for the bar itself... him I do believe I've seen this before http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/ [gnomedesktop.org] or perhaps http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/ gkrellm.html [dslextreme.com] When I did run gdesklets it was setup with a lot of the same features, quick notes, email, time, weather, calander and the list goes on. Nothing really new except it has goggle branded to it.

Release good... (1)

danielk1982 (868580) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947701)

But can it actually run under a Limited User account?

It couldn't before, so I installed MSN offering (note: its not bad).

Re:Release good... (1)

siliconjunkie (413706) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947730)

I'm using the original beta of GD2 (Google Desktop 20050818-en) under a limited user account and it works well.

Re:Release good... (1)

danielk1982 (868580) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947754)

oh ok.. i'm thinking back to initial release (beta 1 i guess - without sidebar).

Scripting Plug-ins with Javascript - the new VBA (5, Interesting)

boozewah (317616) | more than 8 years ago | (#13947746)

I installed the original Google Desktop Search when it first came out. The application was not bad, it just crashed my computer anytime I left it up overnight. After I narrowed the number of folders it indexed the crashes stopped and I now use it alot. I have found it very useful and am not annoyed by the sliver of screen space it takes up on the right side monitor. It seems the newest version is a little more stable and the new maps plugin is nice since I am a map junkie.
          The real neat capability is the ability they give you to write plug-ins now in javascript. I have only been playing around a little so far but it seems like Google is trying to turn Javascript into the new VBA! I was very interested in creating a Google Desktop Plug-in before they added the new Javascript programming capabilties, but I was going to need Visual Studio 2003 and navigate through Visual C++.net. In just playing around the Javascript it seems both simple yet powerful enough to get done what I want. The comparison to VBA is not meant to be a put down. Between the Google Maps API and the Sidebar API for Google Desktop I never though I would be using Javascript so much.

Sync it between laptop and desktop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13947821)

Is there a way to sync it between a laptop and a desktop? Or at least certain plugins? i.e. To Do List.
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