86 games for the 360, 45 for the PS3 143
MBCook writes "Joystiq has posted lists of 86 Xbox 360 and 45 PS3 games that are expected to be released in 2006. They contain expected games (Halo 3, Killzone), ports (Burnout Revenge, Half-Life 2), sequels (SSX 4, Armored Core 4), and more. As for the Revolution? From the third link: 'For those who are wondering: the Nintendo Revolution list is just 8 titles long right now. Nintendo is being characteristically tight-lipped about their plans for the Revolution.'" The word seems to be that some of the mystery around the Revolution will be revealed at this year's GDC.
Out of 131 games... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Out of 131 games... (Score:2, Informative)
" 2006, now with the 2006 player names and outfits. Includes exactly the same gameplay as before, with slightly better graphics for twice the price."
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Except for Fifa 2006 for the xbox 360..... in which case it has worse graphics than it's predecessor.
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Final Fantasy (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Final Fantasy (Score:2, Offtopic)
Given Final Fantasies VIII-present, do you really think that XII will be better?
I'm very happy replaying Final Fantasy IV right now.
Re:Final Fantasy (Score:2)
Given Final Fantasies VIII-present, do you really think that XII will be better?
The only bad FF since VIII was X-2, and I still liked that better than VIII. I thought VIII was crap and VII was overrated, loved IX and X. I've played the demo for XII, and I like a lot. I'm sure XII will be a great game.
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Re:Final Fantasy (Score:2)
really. trying to save the world, but i have time to stop and fiddle with chocobos.
Re:Final Fantasy (Score:4, Funny)
Are you kidding? That was the best part [vgcats.com]!
Re:Final Fantasy (Score:2)
Rob
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Re:Final Fantasy (Score:2)
I'm a platform agnostic. Yes, I have an Xbox 360, but I also have a PS2, a Dreamcast, a CD32 and a fair share of other consoles and computers (and I use Linux (Fedora Core 4) AND Windows XP 64 - what does that make me? A Windows shill or a Linux Power User?). I will get a PS3, and the new Nintendo console, somewhere down the line.
I said the same thing with re. the Xbox 360 launch. The best games for that machine was not the launch games, which ranged fro
Re:Final Fantasy (Score:2)
I still prefer games that allow for good multiplayer action in the home.
Re:Final Fantasy (Score:1)
Sounds like your "Final Fantasy" is to find a girlfriend, oh Jedi of the joystick...
Re:Final Fantasy (Score:5, Interesting)
FFXII is for the PS2, not PS3, so it's not a next generation game in the first place.
That being said, did you play the demo that came with DragonQuest VIII? Ugh. To whoever was complaining about "long cutscenes to complete moves" (which DragonQuest VIII has in spades, BTW), that's not a worry in Final Fantasy XII - because everything happens in "real time." Instead, you just kinda stand there, and watch your party beat up enemies without ever having to lift a finger. Then, once they've cleared out the enemies in the area, you can just point them to the next cluster.
At least the AI doesn't suck - it's good enough to play the entire game for you! It looks like Square-Enix has finally gotten "interactive movie" down to an art.
(Although, to be quite honest, the worst part of the demo disk was the trailer. Apparently you're going to be "sky pirates." And, no matter how cute they may look in anime, "bunny girls" should never, ever, be rendered in 3-d. Plus, one of the races looks suspiciously like Jar-Jar Binks...)
Re:Final Fantasy (Score:2)
I guess I'm one of the few people who actually liked the demo. I didn't let my teammates kill all the monsters (though appearently I could have) so I guess that's why I had more fun. I don't imagine the actual game will be as easy as the demo. Remember the Xenogears demo, where you 3 charactors who had thousands of hitpoints and hit for insane amounts of damage, and then you played the actual game through the part the demo
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You know, I really like the whole "interactive movie" aspect of some RPGs, but it never even dawned on me to not get right in there and fight in the FFXII demo. I guess it takes a different temperment to deliberately try not to get any enjoyment out of a game.
Anyway, it's better than the
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I'll See your FFXII (Score:2)
Re:I'll See your FFXII (Score:2)
On the XBox360 however, I expect Oblivion will be incredible
Quantity vs. Quality (Score:2, Insightful)
My vote is still for the PC.
Re:Quantity vs. Quality (Score:2)
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And the PC market will always be limited compared to the consoles, especially now that consoles are more than a match for the average PC.
Re:Quantity vs. Quality (Score:1)
As for the hardware matchup, well, yeah. I'm with you there.
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Re:Quantity vs. Quality (Score:2, Insightful)
I still play some Atari 2600 games here and then on my Xbox (mind you, I actually own the original cartridges and the system)...
Heck, I still play Master of Orion 2 on the PC, even if it's almost 10 years old now.
I still play Dungeon Master, the all-time best pseudo-3d dungeon crawler ever made. (The Amiga 500 version of course)
My point is, there is a place for legacy gaming - maybe not for you, but for me and lots of other people. So yes, backward compatibily is an issue and a selling p
Re:Quantity vs. Quality (Score:2)
Let's see... (Score:4, Insightful)
The number of games expected to be released for one system in 2006 is far greater than the others. Only one system has been released already. Guess which one it is?
Is this anything other than an obvious function of stage of development? Or just some pro-360 spin?
Re:Let's see... (Score:2, Insightful)
But how many are any good? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:But how many are any good? (Score:3, Insightful)
If they spend less money developing a poor quality game, then they have to trick fewer people into buying it in order to make a profit.
Re:But how many are any good? (Score:2)
Just look at Nintendo Gamecbe vs Playstation 2.
Re:But how many are any good? (Score:2, Insightful)
How many games are available for the PS1/PS2 combined? How many are considered bad/terrible/stupid by a majority of players (meaning, there's no reason it should have been released).
Yes, I said majority, because if you release a mediocre game and it has fans who go out and want to play it regularly and buy new releases, its not a failure, despite not being in the top-10.
Now, for the second statistic -- how many excellent PS2/PS1 games a
I'd rather have (Score:4, Insightful)
One decent game that kept me engrossed for hours and hours than 100+ rubbish games that I wish I'd never spent my money on. I suppose the problem for the developers though is tat they want to make a game that is just good enough to make you want to buy more but not so good that you never want to buy another one. It's a tricky problem and personally I think they have been failing badly for a number of years.
Re:I'd rather have (Score:1)
>> but not so good that you never want to buy another one. It's a tricky problem and personally I think they have been failing badly for a >> number of years.
What, you found a game so good that you never want to buy another?
Re:I'd rather have (Score:2)
I would explain in greater length, but I've got a whole bunch of chaos speeders poised to overrun Yang's territory in the next few turns. And I'm prototyping a line of nerve-gas needlejets with which to assail the main centres of the alien factions. Nobody minds, when you gas aliens.
Re:I'd rather have (Score:2)
Progenitors: mind greatly: use of poison gas.
Only option: your destruction: vigorously pursued.
Re:I'd rather have (Score:2)
No but I have found games that have kept me addicted to a long time (AOE II springs to mind). Ok, the game is really dated now but I still go back to it and have a bash at a multiplayer with my better half now and then. I've bought a couple of the off shoots from this game and none of them have been even close to it. AOM was useless IMHO and AOE III is a slight step backwards in terms of playability from AOE II.
One word... (Score:1)
If you've got a PS2 and like tactical games, I highly recommend getting it. Also consider that it has intuitive controls, a great storyline, a fair amount of humor, and, of course, Prinnies*. Alas, it's kinda hard to find at times due to a small production run.
* - Basically a penguin that explodes when you throw it and has a propencity for shouting 'Dood!'
Re:I'd rather have (Score:1)
As with any game, things grow stale after some use. Bungie kept it going by releasing new maps and changing the game types that were available via XBox Live. Since you had to pay for the new maps, which a large portion of the game playin populace did, they were able to continue the revenue stream long after development and the large sales had finished.
Why can't more game developers try this? Ask them. Vote
Re:I'd rather have (Score:2)
I'm sure the other guys wanted to do it too, they just lacked the necessary hardware. I said it after getting my Xbox back in 2001, and I'm saying it again now: Hard drives and online capability are requirement
8 titles for Revolution? (Score:5, Funny)
Here's one so far: Magical Tree [atariage.com]
Re:8 titles for Revolution? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:8 titles for Revolution? (Score:3, Funny)
Yes, cause nothing motivates me to go out and spend a few hundred bucks on a new console like the ability to play games I was bored with and through away 5-10 years ago
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And combined with the "homebrew" scene, it says that there's a lot of people who are bored with paying for their games.
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Re:8 titles for Revolution? (Score:4, Insightful)
That, in my mind, is the target audience for this sort of feature.
The real news (Score:1)
Are all slashdot headlines deceptive? (Score:2, Funny)
As the author of the original article states on the very first line:
This list shouldn't really be compared to the list of Xbox 360 titles that are to be released in 2006 because the PlayStation 3 isn't out yet and because we still don't know a whole lot about the system or the games that are scheduled for it.
Now compare that with the headline for this story. I can't wait to see if the dupe headline is any better :)
Re:Are all slashdot headlines deceptive? (Score:2)
The 41 games that 360 has extra... (Score:3, Funny)
*ducks*
But you are missing something... (Score:5, Interesting)
Of those supposed 86 Xbox 360 titles, how many will even be decent? Judging by the fact that out of the 15 or so launch titles, maybe 1 is decent that equates to about 5-6 decent games over the full spread. So in a year and a half you get 5 or so decent games. Now, how many of those are cross-platform or PC games? Oblivion, anyone? And the fact that the Oblivion system specs. were released and not too massive (2ghz, 512MB, common ATI/Nvidia cards, DX9).
Same for the PS3. Oh, but wait Sony has said time and time again that the PS3 is NOT a game console. They are banking heavily on the blu-ray angle. We are all aware of the standard Sony fare and the same proportions of decent:crap as MS. So they may have 3 solid titles out of their lineup.
To buy either the 360 or PS3 to play a handful of titles that are still a year out is a bit silly. Add to this the slow release schedules due to cost and dev. time and you have two expensive consoles that will be seeing more standby time than action. Unless you use your PS3 to play all the Blu-Ray discs you will be buying up like crazy to replace those "so-outdated" DVD's you just built up. I guess just like how we all own so many UMD movies and games... ooh, and mini-discs, don't forget the ubiquitous mini-disc in America.
Two powerhouse machines built around closed standards, DRM, and hype... or the Revolution, with close to open development, low cost, quick development time, standard media, and a back catalog a mile long... even if you are a fanboy it is hard to not see this.
Re:But you are missing something... (Score:2)
I wouldn't put too much stock in "commitments." Take a look at the Jaguar FAQ sometime and look at the like of "committed" developers who never even made a game for the system. I will admit that it's much better than nobody making commitments yet.
Doesn't matter. (Score:2)
Re:But you are missing something... (Score:2)
Err....which one would that be? PGR3, one of the best racing games ever (in my opinion, the best), or COD2, one of the best shooters ever? Or maybe it's Kameo, which while not genre defining is a lot of fun, or Q4 which is, well, Quake? Amped 3 was a lot of fun too. And while it wasn't really my cup of tea, I know a lot of people really like RR6. Condemned has also won a lot of praise from the survival horror crowd.
In fact, overall
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Re:But you are missing something... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:how many xBox360 games are decent? (Score:1)
Re:But you are missing something... (Score:1)
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Exclusives are what sell consoles, and not only exclusives, but AAA exclusives.
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Only because you and I are disabled (Score:2)
Historically Nintendo has been the most closed of all the games console companies, just go check out their developer requirements at WarioWorld some time.
ivan256 seems to think that anybody who knows how to write the simplest business plan can satisfy those requirements. If you disagree, see this discussion [slashdot.org] and help me out if you can.
Re:But you are missing something... (Score:3, Interesting)
In fact I'm not a Nintendo fanboy even, I am purely hopeful that the system will be very popular to help open up gaming back to small teams and creative individuals instead of big faceless corporations. Only good could come from Nintendo's success on a number of levels.
Look at Project Offset, that is a team of basicaly two or three guys and they have the ability to turn the current status quo on its ear
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What I am talking about is not just a way to make a quick buck off old arcade/mini games, but all new material from budding or small developers like the team behind Project Offset, or the original Doom shareware.
Why on earth would I choose Microsoft if giv
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So just because MS all of a sudden is opening up to help fill their void with your hard work and give you peanuts for it, doesn't make it all that and a bag of chips. It doesn't bother me though, if you like MS' arcade live then so be it.
Armored Core 4 - Oh hell yes (Score:1)
The AC game for the PSP could have got me buying a PSP, if it hadn't been a big AI training game.
You realize it's also going to be for X360? (Score:2)
wrong (Score:2, Insightful)
Yes absolutely Sony intends to sell the console at a loss. Other Blu-Ray players being released later this year will be pushing $1500. There is no way they are selling an early (practically beta) version of a Blu-Ray player AND a gaming machine with a CELL processor at cost.
Sony will most likely be selling this at a substantial loss. PS3's release will coincide with the release of H
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Development cost vs marginal cost (Score:3, Insightful)
It is quite likely that the PS3 will be sold for a price above the marginal cost, especially since Sony is co-developer of both the CELL processor and the blue-ray disc technology. Since they have alreaady pa
Re:wrong (Score:3, Informative)
Even right now, near the end of their life cycles, the 2000-2001 generation of consoles still cost $200-300 a piece to produce, meaning they have to sell 4-6 games, or preferably the ever-profitable accessories to turn a profit. Microsoft's Xbox division is quite a few million in the
I know at least 3 NR titles (Score:1)
Think one is a soccer game, another one is a dance game, and can't remember what the other one is off hand.
Re:I know at least 3 NR titles (Score:2)
Any chance that the other game is Castlevania, Suikoden, Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill (PLEASE let it be this one), or even something along the lines of Sh
Re:I know at least 3 NR titles (Score:2)
I checked the link... but I couldn't really find anything in the maze that was the investor's page. Was it in the newsletter perhaps?
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Is it just me... (Score:1)
So far, I'm only interested in Halo 3, Winning Eleven, Lost Odyssey, the Rockstar game, and Jade Empire 2 (which is only rumored). I'll be playing Elder Scrolls IV on my PC (who wants to pass up all that fan-made goodness?). What happened to Playstation RPGs? There doesn't seem to be a single one on the list, which is highly disappointing.
I wish Nintendo would get with publishing info about upcoming games on their system. The c
7 games a month for the x360? (Score:1)
Re:Queue the N Fanboys (Score:4, Insightful)
Danger! (Score:2)
*grumbles about title/console exclusivity*
Huh? (Score:2)
Why? No actual Revolution games have been announced. None. Nintendo has said that there "will be" a Metroid for the Revolution. And they have shown two seconds of pre-rendered footage. That's no announcement.
We don't know how many Revolution games will come out. There will most likely be more than 8, but we don't know yet. There's no reason to argue either way. There's no reason to "defend" Ninte
Re:PS3 Games will be of exremely high quality (Score:2, Insightful)
They can. But what makes you think they will?
Besides, Sony doesn't intend to sell the PS3 at a loss, so the profits won't have to be made back in the games.
But they're still charging developers a royalty per game. just because they don't have to doesn't mean they aren't going to. They're after profits.
Re:PS3 Games will be of exremely high quality (Score:2, Funny)
They can. But what makes you think they will?
4.7 GB should be enough for anybody!
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Re:360 manufacturing problems (Score:1)
Here's my anecdotal evidence as well. Just this Saturday I was
Re:360 manufacturing problems (Score:1)
If better resolution and graphics + ability to mod are as important as Micro$oft and $ony say they are, why are they not making games for the pc?
Re:360 manufacturing problems (Score:2)
Thanks to the PCI Express transition, upgrading an older PC to play modern games almost requir
Re:360 manufacturing problems (Score:1)
Just on the first page of results for "Xbox 360" right now there is:
Premium (+extras) with ~45 minutes left, bidding only up to $380, reserve not met.
Premium (+extras) with ~45 minutes left, only $10 over retail cost.
Premium with ~45 minutes left, $40 under retail cost.
Premium with no bids at all ~30 minutes left.
Premium with ~20 minutes left, 4 bids, at cost.
Premium with ~10 minutes left + game, under retail.
Core system, ~10 minutes left, no bids.
Core system, ~10 minutes left, n