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Firefox Download Day To Start At 1 p.m. EST

timothy posted more than 6 years ago | from the there's-no-pleasing-some-people dept.

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boustrophedon writes "Starting at midnight in their local timezones, downloaders have been asking when Firefox 3 will be ready for Firefox Download Day, June 17, 2008. Mary announced on the Spread Firefox Forum that downloads will commence at 10 AM PST." That means 1 p.m. East Coast time, and, in Justin Mason's view, some pretty annoying times of day for many parts of the world. Reader CorinneI supplies a link to PC Magazine's (very positive) overview of the new version's features, which praises the "speedy performance, thrifty memory usage, and, in particular, the address bar that now predicts where you want to go when you start typing (what Mozilla insiders refer to as the Awesome Bar)." FF3, even in Beta and RC form, and even with the extension incompatibilities I've run into, has quickly replaced FF2 as my preferred browser — for me, the improved drop-down autocomplete behavior alone is enough to justify the switch.

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Download (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23823801)

Download [mozilla.org]

Re:Download (5, Interesting)

8127972 (73495) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823985)

Does this count towards the World Record Attempt? [spreadfirefox.com]

Re:Download (5, Informative)

winphreak (915766) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824047)

Any downloads before the time specified do not count toward the world record attempt.

Re:Download (2, Informative)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824111)

NOT YET!

It's, what, an hour and a quarter to go? Don't download the bloody thing yet! Wait until it counts! If you haven't already got the beta you can wait another seventy-five minutes, right?

Re:Download (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824153)

Already posted at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox Setup 3.0.exe [mozilla.org]

Other builds at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/ [mozilla.org] if you don't happen to be one of them god-fearin' red-blooded win32-runnin' USAians

Re:Download (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824361)

The only thing in your second link is:

We're not quite ready yet!

Re:Download (5, Informative)

an.echte.trilingue (1063180) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824171)

Since not all of us use windows and want their system in english, let's decompose that link a bit:

http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US [mozilla.org]

You select your version with the GET variables. So, for other OS's:
  • Linux: change os=win to os=linux
  • Mac: change os=win to os=osx
For other languages, you can substitute the language variable such as en-GB for British English, de for German and fr for French. Not all of them are up right now, but they will be soon.

ubuntu linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23823805)

will this automatically update in my linux distro?

Re:ubuntu linux? (5, Informative)

eigendude (563238) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823925)

You can already have it in Ubuntu:
sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0

Ubuntu Hardy has it as the default Firefox browser.

Re:ubuntu linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23823973)

I meant from RC x to the real thing.

I will not.... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23823811)

be downloading FF!

IE 5 is good enough for me!

Re:I will not.... (-1, Troll)

rdradar (1110795) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823875)

Re:I will not.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824299)

Built-in spyware? No thanks, web pages have enough ads as it is.

Re:I will not.... (5, Funny)

kvezach (1199717) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823971)

IE 5 is good enough for me!

I know, but did you have to advertise it? I had just finished owning your computer; now all the other slashdotters will get on and kick me off with their own kits!

And unofficially... (2, Informative)

moronikos (595352) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823813)

You can get it already: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US [mozilla.org] well, at least the windows, us-en version.

Re:And unofficially... (0)

stretchpuppy (1304751) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823855)

Thanks!

Re:And unofficially... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23823877)

link doesn't work

Re:And unofficially... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23823885)

That's RC 3.

Re:And unofficially... (2, Informative)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823955)

Or for OS X in U.S. English here: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=osx&lang=en-US [mozilla.org]

Re:And unofficially... (1)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824329)

Hmm, scratch that -- I get a file called "Firefox 3.0.dmg", but it will not mount. Tried with Safari, FF2, and wget but alas, no joy.

British English Version (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23823981)

http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-GB

Re:And unofficially... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23823989)

Great, only 20456:55:40 to go!

Re:And unofficially... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824049)

It doesn't fall in the download window though, so you aren't counting towards the final tally.

Re:And unofficially... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824135)

c971bb2273d24d62dd15dcdbd6030ea3 *Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe
c971bb2273d24d62dd15dcdbd6030ea3 *Firefox Setup 3.0.exe

So RC3 = Final?

Re:And unofficially... (1)

nmg196 (184961) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824173)

How do you know for sure though? Until the actual download link is revealed by mozilla, the previously posted link could be incorrect. The real setup file might be in a different folder.

Re:And unofficially... (3, Informative)

nmg196 (184961) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824137)

That one post has probably trashed their attempt to break the record for most downloads in one day.
Now, everyone on slashdot will have downloaded it before the official 24 hour download period even starts.

Well done.

Re:And unofficially... (2, Informative)

hansonc (127888) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824295)

So what? Since there is no record now, a single person downloading it in the "offical" period sets the record. Isn't it more important for people to use the browser?

Re:And unofficially... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824337)

They should have started Download Day at the right time then instead of waiting until the majority of the world was already on the 18th.

It should have started at 00:00 GMT.

I downloaded FF3.0 about 8 hours ago. If they can't release at a reasonable hour then screw the record attempt.

Um, does that mean FF3 is released now? (-1, Flamebait)

slyborg (524607) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823815)

Because if it is, I'm downloading it before the world slams the servers. WTF is up with "Download Day" this is the most retarded thing EVAR.

Re:Um, does that mean FF3 is released now? (1)

fictionpuss (1136565) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823863)

It's a cruel and senseless waste of binary.

I will be happy if they have controls (1, Insightful)

edheller (1309149) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823817)

I will be happy if they have controls... to enable and disable the color profile management.

Download DAY, Justin (4, Insightful)

Bertie (87778) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823821)

Why's he moaning about what time it starts at when people have a whole twenty-four hours to find a suitable time to download the thing? It's not like we all have to sprint to our computers and start it on the minute.

Re:Download DAY, Justin (1)

The Angry Mick (632931) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823961)

Why's he moaning about what time it starts at when people have a whole twenty-four hours to find a suitable time to download the thing?

Because a lot of people won't wait for a reasonable time, and will rush the gates like iPhone disciples on release day. Never underestimate the power of "new" to undermine bandwidth sensibility.

Re:Download DAY, Justin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824071)

Agreed, setting a 24-hr download record doesn't mean you have from start time until midnight, it means you have from start time on download day til the same time the day after. :)

Um, however, why is it now 45 minutes past the release time and still "to come"? Methinks they had some last minute bugs to resolve and/or issues building... perhaps a bad omen, but surely nothing unpatchable later on. :)

Oops.

Re:Download DAY, Justin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824285)

Um, however, why is it now 45 minutes past the release time and still "to come"?
K, I know, learn to read. (They wrote PST, I read EST, here's my sign.)

Re:Download DAY, Justin (2, Funny)

hansonc (127888) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824327)

you must have a different clock than the rest of us... 10am PST is still an hour away for me...

I'll do my part (1)

erikina (1112587) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823829)

I'll do my part:

yum install firefox


Rack up a few hits on their server. On a serious note, I wonder if the more streamlined distribution process of Linux has anything to do with the lack of perceived demand? Probably not, as only major projects are in the repository but it's a thought.

Re:I'll do my part (1)

Yetihehe (971185) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823987)

Well, my firefox on ubuntu says it's 3.0, not RC. I will download installer anyway, just to bump up this "counter" thingy...

Re:I'll do my part (1)

erikina (1112587) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824119)

I can't decide if that's a good idea or not. On one hand, you're trying to help them set a record (which they will or won't do anyway) and on the other hand, you're cheating the system and wasting bandwidth...

Nevermind, I'm going back to programming. Ah the world of black and white, true and false.

Re:I'll do my part (1)

Yetihehe (971185) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824207)

Ah the world of black and white, true and false.
And occasionally file_not_found [thedailywtf.com]

Just a Question.... (1)

Trev311 (1161835) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823839)

I've been using FF3 for a while as my main browser, BUT hasn't the "awesome bar" basically been a feature of Safari since... like forever?

Re:Just a Question.... (1)

robot_love (1089921) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823959)

I think you'll find that the type of awesome used in FF3 has more of a "bar" form than the type used in Safari. Safari's "awesome" looked more like pants.

Don't you mean 1pm EDT? (4, Insightful)

holden caufield (111364) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823849)

I thought we were in Daylight Saving Time until November?

Re:Don't you mean 1pm EDT? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824331)

We moved away from Stardard Time on March 9. FFS give timothy some time to adjust.

Time Zones (1)

Pearlswine (1121125) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823851)

Is 1pm EST, 12 PM EDT? Which is what most of the east coast of the US is on? Current Time [navy.mil]

Re:Time Zones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23823893)

Er... the summary says PST. Which is Pacific Standard Time.

So, hooray, for failing at reading comprehension, you get it three hours early!

Re:Time Zones (1)

Pearlswine (1121125) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824079)

Er... the summary says PST. Which is Pacific Standard Time. So, hooray, for failing at reading comprehension, you get it three hours early!
Umm... 10 AM PST is 1 PM EST

Re:Time Zones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824169)

The summary also says "1 p.m. East Coast time", so you fail at being able to read beyond the first sentence or two. Not to mention that that number is also wrong, since it really is 12 p.m. EDT

Re:Time Zones (5, Funny)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824245)

in Justin Mason's view, some pretty annoying times of day for many parts of the world

Sure, I can see lining up at my daughter's GameStop store at midnight, considering that whatever game they want may be sold out quickly.

But a download? Who cares what time of day it's available? If it's available at 1:00 AM your time, then just start the download when you wake up, or when you get home from work.

They're not going to run out of Firefoxes, you know. Relax.

My findings... (1, Insightful)

NitroWolf (72977) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823857)

I've been using the RC releases, and while I do like the new browser, the memory footprint is still a monster. Currently, it's using over 175MB of ram for the windows I have open (21 different pages) - and that seems excessive to me.

The new address bar - it's different, but I hadn't noticed that it's any better or worse than FF2.

However, I've run into no lockups, which I did often with FF2. The browser seems a bit more responsive as well. Overall, it's definitely an improvement and pretty much a required upgrade for those using FF2, since it improves on FF2 and doesn't seem to introduce any unwanted features, except perhaps the handling of bookmarks.

Re:My findings... (5, Funny)

ndansmith (582590) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823917)

I've been using the RC releases, and while I do like the new browser, the memory footprint is still a monster. Currently, it's using over 175MB of ram for the windows I have open (21 different pages) - and that seems excessive to me.
You're right, 21 pages seems excessive to me as well.

Re:My findings... (2, Insightful)

xtracto (837672) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824127)

ly, it's using over 175MB of ram for the windows I have open (21 different pages) - and that seems excessive to me.

Here I am typing this in Firefox, one window with only 4 tabs (iGoogle with nothing fancy, slashdot, airninja and google maps) and firefox is 97.2 MB already...

Just yesterday I downloaded Opera 9.5 and after using it for some time and having two windows open (each one in a different virtual desktop and with about 5 tabs each one), it occurred to me check the memory foot print (two windows after all, i thought, should be eating quite some ram). To my surprise it was no more than 30 MB.

Now, I do not know what those guys at Opera do right, but Firefox 3 is still a bloated beast compared to that...

Of course I still like Fx, as I use several extensions like scrapbook, del.icio.us, refspoof ;), and adblock+.

So far, I have only found a replacement for adblock+.

The [other] good thing about this Fx release is that Opera, Microsoft and even Apple will have to continue improving their browsers if they do not want to stay behind :) ... well, not opera, they do not really care about not being the main browser for PC desktops :P

Re:My findings... (0)

pinkocommie (696223) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824161)

It has improved dramatically for memory management but still sucks big time. I had the browser open for a while and have this bad habit of right-click / open in new tab for anything I find interesting. Last night I opened around 50-60 tabs , which eventually (after being for a few hours) caused the machine to act sluggish. I checked firefox's memory usage which had jumped to 1.3GB

Re:My findings... (5, Insightful)

Xzzy (111297) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824251)

That's a PEBCAK error, not a fault with Firefox.

Images, html, css, content, media.. all of that takes up space. Firefox has to hold it in memory so it can display it quickly when you click on the tab.

How much would you be complaining if you had to wait 5 seconds every time you switched tabs so it could swap in from disk?

Re:My findings... (4, Insightful)

erikina (1112587) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824063)

I don't understand this obsession of ram usage, and this is from someone with a laptop with 512MB's, and primary computer of 844MB (as reported by the OS, but 1GB in the official specs). But, I want my RAM to be used (if it's going to make performance better). That's why I have it. So sure, if you have memory problems I can see the concern. But I'm comfortably running VMWare and firefox (using 172MB atm) and I probably have less RAM than you.
I guess, what's ultimate is a program that can scale its memory usage depending on availability. But I don't have any problems, so I won't complain.

Re:My findings... (1, Redundant)

jasonmicron (807603) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824249)

There have been instances where I've had only a couple of tabs open and my computer would start chugging. A quick look at the RAM usage had FF3 pegged close to 2GB.

I usually only have 3 or 4 tabs open to text sites (fark, /., some others) so it was quite surprising. The extensions I have loaded are adblock and noscript. Oh, also, forecastfox.

Hope this isn't a permanent thing.

Re:My findings... (3, Informative)

xanadu-xtroot.com (450073) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824281)

But, I want my RAM to be used (if it's going to make performance better). That's why I have it.
And do you want one app with some nasty leaks using ALL of it?

No?

I didn't think so. That's why the memory footprint is being made a big deal of...


and primary computer of 844MB (as reported by the OS, but 1GB in the official specs).
Did you forget to enable High Memory support in your kernel?

Processor type and features --->
High Memory Support (on) --->
(X) 4GB

Re:My findings... (0, Flamebait)

trolltalk.com (1108067) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824287)

Opera works faster, with way LESS ram usage. Maybe bloated code in firefox has something to do with it?

Re:My findings... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824089)

A warning to those with legacy hardware: FF3 uses considerably more CPU than FF2. It was plainly unusable on a Pentium 3 system I use for legacy application purposes. Night and day compared to FF2. Just a word to the wise...

Re:My findings... (4, Interesting)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824131)

I'm at 150MB with seven tabs which is fine with me. The real kicker is that Firefox has been running for at least a week now. FF2 would have slowly bloated to 400MB right about now and I would have been restarting it. I don't mind that it's using 20MB per tab as long as it's using it wisely and intelligently (for what it's worth I have 2GB at work). It has a lot of info in memory so everything is very snappy. I can reopen up to 10 closed tabs, go back in 15 pages in history on a tab that has been open since FF2 (and it has history from then too), and heck, I even like the so-called Awesome Bar. Typing just one word from the title or url has helped me out tremendously.

Re:My findings... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824221)

What OS are you using?

On Linux, it seems hard to tell precisely how much memory the software is using, because shared libraries' memory load counts repeteadly on each process memory usage. Programs look like using a lot of more memory than the real amount.

Re:My findings... (1, Funny)

Hyppy (74366) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824367)

My finding is that... it's fun to click the back button. It's pretty, round, and stands out. It literally POPS off the screen to say "Hello, please click me!".

Sadly enough, this is a completely serious post.

Re:My findings... (3, Interesting)

TheNetAvenger (624455) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824371)

Our internel tests show FF3 has some holes in terms of performance and stability.

From sluggish behavior on some sites, to full crashes, to DEP violations - it just doesn't feel like a release product.

There is no reason a vanilla install without flash should flip a DEP consistently on some sites, no matterhow badly the sites are coded. (Testing occured across several test machines, and hard core FF fanbois in our tech team. DHTML ads seemed to be at the heart of some crashes, as when a specific ad was loaded, the browser would pop Vista/XP's DEP protection.)

Performance also did hold up to Opera or even IE8 Beta1, which is a bit alarming.

The performance and stability differences got a lot worse with flash, but that is almost expected in the FF world, although flash doesn't have the same level of causing instability or loss of performance on IE7/IE8 for whatever reason.

FF3 is faster and more reliable than FF2, and it is faster than IE7, but not more reliable. IE8 for an early beta outperforming FF3 is sad and a bit scary, and may be the return of MS picking up marketshare, especially with the extra protected modes on Vista.

If you are running IE7 or FF2, I say go grab FF3, the speed is worth it, even with the occasional crashes.

I hate the awesome bar (4, Informative)

kill-1 (36256) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823873)

Here is how to get more or less the old behavior. Go to about:config and set browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped to true and browser.urlbar.richResults to false. Then restart.

Re:I hate the awesome bar (5, Informative)

daranz (914716) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824073)

There's also the Oldbar [mozilla.org] extension.

Seems like the awesome bar is something that people either love or hate. Personally, I don't like it. I prefer my URL bar to do straight autocompletion, rather than search through my history and bookmarks for matches. I use the URL bar to type in URLs, and while the awesome bar adds some nifty functionality it breaks that basic feature.

Re:I hate the awesome bar (5, Informative)

abaddononion (1004472) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824201)

It's important to note this, from the oldbar site:

Note that the underlying autocomplete algorithm is the Firefox 3 algorithm, not the Firefox 2 algorithm. oldbar only affects the presentation of the results.

Oldbar, while nice, only changes appearance, not functionality.

Im with you guys, though. I despise the awesome bar, and dont understand why there isnt an easier/obvious way to get the old, URL based behavior. A URL bar that works based on URLs?! Blasphemy!

Re:I hate the awesome bar (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824325)

The oldbar extension does not change the autocomplete algorithm, just how the results are displayed.

Re:I hate the awesome bar (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824147)

Then restart.

Is there a reason why you have to restart for these kind of things... and even after installing an extension? I restarting is not a big problem but why is a restart needed?

Re:I hate the awesome bar (2, Insightful)

ClubStew (113954) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824265)

Because most settings are parsed and handled only at startup. In the base of the Awesome Bar, I don't see why they couldn't have supported switching but it's prbably just not a big priority. As for addons, the way the extension points are handled and how XUL from extensions is merged with the browser such that extensions can even complete replace standard XUL in the browser requires reparsing and merging all markup. You have to reload everything. I've often wondered about themes in FF, however, since the skinning used is fairly straight forward and is most often just CSS and images. Of course, all this I think is moot since Firefox can restore your previous session and restarts so quick I really don't mind.

Re:I hate the awesome bar (3, Informative)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824177)

This doesn't give the old behavior. When you type "foo" in the address bar, it does a pattern search for "LIKE '%foo%'", rather than doing a pattern search for "LIKE 'foo%'" as you would expect from an auto-complete algorithm.

Can anyone suggest how you might go about tweaking the SQL it passes to SQL Lite to only search URLs (not necessarily only typed ones, but not page titles) and without the leading wildcard?

Re:I hate the awesome bar (1)

kill-1 (36256) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824253)

I know and I hate it. That's why I said more or less.

Slashdotted the Internet??? (1)

RyansPrivates (634385) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823933)

Anyone else experiencing record packet loss and routing issues? On an AT&T MPLS here, and can't get anywhere. Getting rerouted all over the US... Can this be attributed to Firefox day?

Firefox Download Day (5, Informative)

Volanin (935080) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823935)

For those who still don't know, Mozilla is trying to enter GUINNESS
for most software downloads in a 24-hour period. Check it here:

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/worldrecord/ [spreadfirefox.com]

Everybody is asked to participate by downloading one single copy of
Firefox 3.0 today, June 17th!

ONLY FULL DOWNLOADS ARE CONSIDERED!
So, go to the Firefox site and get one FULL COPY!

http://www.getfirefox.com/ [getfirefox.com]

I don't think they're going to meet their goal (5, Informative)

alta (1263) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823939)

When I go to the site I get:

The connection was reset

The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.

And this was with FF 2.0.0.14, so they can't blame my client.

What is this in Euros? (1)

Yuioup (452151) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823941)

What's that in European? I can't calculate in US Dollars...

Re:What is this in Euros? (2, Funny)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824037)

I think 'free' uses the same number of zeros in Euros as it does in dollars.

Re:What is this in Euros? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824151)

Actually, at the current exchange rate 0 Euros is a few bucks or so.

When will their servers die? 1:02pm? (1)

denis-The-menace (471988) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823951)

I hope they got their ducks in line 'cuz they are ASKING for a /.ing.

Re:When will their servers die? 1:02pm? (1)

cyfer2000 (548592) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824223)

They have plenty of mirrors.

Re:When will their servers die? 1:02pm? (4, Funny)

Bearpaw (13080) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824305)

Sure, but how much smoke do they have?

I use IE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23823977)

It is clearly the superior browser.

(kidding, people)

Sentences like this make me grind my teeth (1)

twocoasttb (601290) | more than 6 years ago | (#23823999)

Starting at midnight in their local timezones, downloaders have been asking when Firefox 3 will be ready for Firefox Download Day, June 17, 2008.

I guess I know now to wait until midnight to ask the question. How silly of me it was to have asked early.

Hey guys, let's set a world record on this day! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824043)

Oh BTW you can't download until 17:00 UTC ...

[later this week]

HawaiiDude: I just can't figure out why we didn't have more Firefox downloads. I mean, we gave people ALL DAY to get it!

Oldbar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824085)

For those of us who don't like how the "awesomebar" looks by default, remember that the oldbar extension [mozilla.org] can save you from becoming insane.

I'll pick it up (1)

Drakin020 (980931) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824097)

When Adblock releases a version that works for it.

Re:I'll pick it up (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824277)

privoxy... better faster and best of all browser agnostic.

Re:I'll pick it up (5, Informative)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824311)

According to the 'About Mozilla Firefox' menu on my Ubuntu-borne copy of FF (the very one I'm using to type this missive), it says 3.0, and AdBlock Plus works just fine on it.



HTH,

/P

Automatic update? (2, Interesting)

benxx (1240318) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824109)

Will my FF 2.0.0.14 automatically get updated to FF 3?

I hope they have an MSI version for windows (5, Insightful)

denis-The-menace (471988) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824141)

Otherwise all this hype will not convince corps to switch.

Why MSI?
-it's a corp standard.(STD switches, behavior)
-It's customizable without changing the original package
-It is designed from the ground up to run unattended or silent regardless if it's an upgrade or a new install.

And Frontmotion (www.frontmotion.com/) != Mozilla
It's a trust issue. Corps want "warm and fuzzies" and not what they will view as a hack.
If Mozilla doesn't want to make an MSI package but still wants to entice the Corps to switch, host Frontmotion's MSI from the Mozilla site.

Having GPO support or preinstalled Addons are gravy at this point.

GMT -5 (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824185)

For those for which the universe does not revolve around the USA, EST = GMT -5. Therefore the firefox download "day" would start at 6:00pm in Great Britain.

Submission ignored, download 3.0 now (1, Redundant)

Abattoir (16282) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824203)

Mozilla's FTP is overloaded, but the 3.0 (non-RC) download was available as early as 7am Mountain today. You can hit it from a mirror via: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US [mozilla.org] (change os=linux or os=osx if required).

Cookies/Forms (2, Interesting)

nmg196 (184961) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824227)

Is it me, or does Firefox 3 not keep your old cookies and passwords etc? I seem to have to relogin to every website.

Memory handling doesn't seem to be much better - it's up to 220Mb already and I've only been using it 10 minutes. It's definitely faster though! The javascript engine seems WAY quicker on my own sites at least.

base SVG support rising (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824229)

See http://www.codedread.com/svg-support.php

17th started at GMT (5, Insightful)

rescue me (1067874) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824231)

1. Why did this not start on GMT so it was the 17th for the whole world at the normal time. 2. Why was it so hard to find a Mozillia definition of the 17th ;-) Smart guys and gals could have made this simpler.

I'm going to miss (0, Offtopic)

JohnnyGTO (102952) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824237)

Google Sync though, it made it easy to keep all my systems in umm... sync.

Will it run besides version 2.x ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23824291)

How will FF 3.0 behave ?
Will it leave version 2.x on the system or will it remove it ?
I'd like to make privacy checks first before I use it as default browser on my system.

In FF2 I had to reconfigure file access for cookies and access to RSS feed images (which are loaded from typical ad providers). I had to remove support for dom.storage.enabled and network.http.sendRefererHeader
I'm interested into such privacy related things before I install it.

Anyone ?

Firefox 2 and Firefox 3 simultaneously (1)

purplejacket (581360) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824293)

Is it possible to install Firefox 2 and Firefox 3 simultaneously? I would like to retain an old working version that I'm comfortable with for one thing. Is it possible to have separate cookies, sessions, etc? Maybe I would have FF2 locked down and FF3 with flash installed. Is this possible? I like having multiple browsers.

Firebug (1)

el_gato_borracho (1218808) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824365)

I am in the same position, especially because I like developing web content using Firebug. I have no idea if Firebug will still work with FF3, so I was hoping to keep FF2 around long enough to find out.

what about firebug (1)

mehemiah (971799) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824341)

it hasn't been released for firefox 3 has it? when will it?

Timezone (5, Insightful)

erik.martino (997000) | more than 6 years ago | (#23824345)

Why do slashdot use obscure timezones like PST EST XST when there is a standard UTC?
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