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New Motorcycle World Speed Record, 367.382 mph

kdawson posted more than 4 years ago | from the mile-and-back dept.

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An anonymous reader, apparently a member of the BUB racing team, wrote to let us know that on Thursday, their crew set the new ultimate motorcycle world speed record at 367.382 mph with the BUB Seven Streamliner at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah. The Seven is powered by a 3 Liter, turbocharged, 16-valve V4 engine that produces a claimed 500 hp and 400 lb-ft of torque at 8500 rpm. The pilot, Chris Carr, hit 380 mph during the run.

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For those SI unit addicts. (4, Informative)

Polarina (1389203) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551691)

367.38200 mph = 591.244017 km/h

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (4, Informative)

selven (1556643) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551729)

You're clearly not a good "SI addict". The correct answer is 164.23 meters per second.

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (4, Funny)

Eudial (590661) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551937)

Who uses SI anyway?

For those of us in the civilized world, it's 116,730,878 smoots / fortnight.

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29552023)

It's 5.478*10^-7

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29552051)

Hey tuckaroos! Remember when tugger predicted a $25 million opening weekend? "Anything The Hangover can do, we can beat. Easily". Remember that? Remember the private jet and the "fuck you" money? Get your ass pussies ready, because opening weekend is under $400,000. Those aren't straight-to-dvd numbers, those are straight-to-comedy-central-at-3-AM numbers.

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (3, Funny)

ubrgeek (679399) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552181)

And for those of us normal people, it's Pretty F'ing Fast.

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (4, Funny)

Hojima (1228978) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552249)

Does it make me a bad person if the first thought that crossed my mind when seeing this article was wondering how far the guy would fly if I pulled a trip wire the second he hit 360? Yea, I think so.

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (2, Funny)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552275)

Doesn't make you a bad person, just a bad mathematician. If you know the guy's speed, it's really just a matter of determining the angle of trajectory to find the distance. If you're going for a land speed record, you can be pretty sure that they chose a day where wind wasn't a significant factor.

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (1)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552259)

Wish I had mod points. This made me laugh out loud.

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (5, Funny)

Jon Abbott (723) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552439)

Alternatively, 532.25 attoparsecs per picocentury.

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (1)

joaommp (685612) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552501)

hard drive makers do, unfortunately...

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (1)

quercus.aeternam (1174283) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552041)

Incidentally, this is also about 3x terminal velocity, and about half the speed of sound.

It's no wonder it's enclosed...

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (4, Insightful)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552233)

3x terminal velocity of a person in a balloon suit. Terminal velocity depends on shape, density, and size. An aerodynamically designed motorcycle is going to beat a person in a loose-fitting garment in that area any day of the week.

Further, terminal velocity is not necessarily "terminal" the way you're making it sound (a mouse walks away, a horse splashes and all that. see Haldane), and has nothing to do with horizontal translation anyway: terminal horizontal velocity, the speed at which wind resistance and other forces balance, if you're not including the powerplant in those forces, is precisely zero.

Re:For those SI unit addicts. (2, Funny)

fullgandoo (1188759) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552509)

At first it looked to me like 367,382 mph in the summary. And I thought for a while that the speed of light had been breached finally (by a motorcycle) without going into warp and driven by someone named Bubba.

Yes, yes, I know that's mph.

And this is on slashdot why? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29551701)

Maybe car and driver would be a better place.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (2, Interesting)

andy666 (666062) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551741)

I don't even have a license. Anecdotally, it seems that techies drive less than other people, unless of course they live in someplace like silicon valley. But I'd bet there's less interest in cars and motorcycles among computer geeks than, say, mechanical engineers. Anyone what to chime in with their preferences/opinions?

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (4, Funny)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551871)

My wife says it's boring because it wasn't done by three guys in Hamtramck who bolted a V8 onto a Harley and made a fairing out of oil drums.

I find it interesting because it is about engineering. "IndyCars", on the other hand, are boring. All the cars are identical so it's just about the drivers. Who cares about the drivers?

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (4, Interesting)

bhtooefr (649901) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552189)

Well, spec series are about the driver's skill, which is pretty much what sports are about - the skill of the players.

However, it's much more fun to go out, get a cheap Miata, or if FWD is more your thing, a cheap Civic or Golf or something, and autocross it, than to sit around watching a spec series, IMO. Then, it's about honing your own skill, not watching others. (But, you can learn techniques from watching how they handle situations, so watching them can still be educational.)

Of course, the American Le Mans Series is ridiculously fun as a spectator series. Multiple classes of cars of varying power outputs, weights, visibility, handling, and (often) driver experience all out on the track at once, and the drivers and cars are surprisingly accessible. Oh, and it's about as far from a spec series as it gets - you can easily have a big heavy (ok, 900 kg/1980 lb, but still) V12 diesel car and a light (825 kg/1820 lb) 4-cylinder turbocharged gas car fighting for the lead of the entire race, the whole way, meanwhile weaving their way through traffic caused by big slow production-based cars.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552287)

One day, I will drive the Paris/Dakkar!

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1, Funny)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552347)

> Well, spec series are about the driver's skill, which is pretty much what
> sports are about - the skill of the players.

And players of any sport, unless they are personal friends, are boring.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1)

fafaforza (248976) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552441)

Nah, autocross is boring. You wait a whole bunch of time to do one lap around a 50 second course in a mall parking lot dotted with cones.

Go to a track day, on a real road track, and get so much driving time that you'll be sick of it by the late afternoon.

You could also buy a shifter cart and drive all day for much cheaper and probably have an even bigger blast.

But friends don't let friends autocross.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29552503)

As someone who ran non-shifter go-karts back in the early 2000's: Have you looked at kart prices recently? It *IS* cheaper to get a miata or something and run autocross or at a track :D Seriously unless you're buying used, and get a chassis/engine/accessories cheap, it's going to cost you just as much in startup fees for a kart as for a miata to run spec.

Go karts are many things (including somewhat more maintenence friendly, since you can do them with 2 people and a stand, rather than a jack and some luck.) But they are certainly *NOT* cheap.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (0, Flamebait)

Dun Malg (230075) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552331)

I find it interesting because it is about engineering. "IndyCars", on the other hand, are boring. All the cars are identical so it's just about the drivers. Who cares about the drivers?

I held that opinion for quite a while, but later came to amend it. I find it even more boring when it's like the Formula One races were for several years, with Nissan coming in 1st and 2nd every time because they came up with a particularly effective turbocharger. All about engineering, but not very interesting engineering. Really, car racing is boring as fuck to watch. Probably interesting to do, but it holds no particular value to intelligent spectators.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (2, Informative)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552375)

> I held that opinion for quite a while, but later came to amend it. I find it
> even more boring when it's like the Formula One races were for several years,
> with Nissan coming in 1st and 2nd every time because they came up with a
> particularly effective turbocharger.

That isn't even about drivers. It's about money. Useful stuff, but who wants to watch it?

Of course, now that they have taken to deliberately crashing cars maybe it will become interesting again, in a morbid, hockey-like way.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551925)

Us mechanical engineers aren't allowed to read Slashdot now?

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552321)

Mechanical engineering is obsolete. It's all done in software now.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29552507)

Us mechanical engineers aren't allowed to read Slashdot now?

It's "We mechanical engineers..." If you drop "mechanical engineers," the sentence should still be correct.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (5, Interesting)

MachDelta (704883) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551977)

This all boils down to how you define geek.

I'm an automotive mechanic. My friends and family would also consider me to be a big geek. I fix their computers (yes yes, cars too), I build my own (computers, I haven't built a car from scratch... yet!). I love gadgets and hacking stuff together, and I have an abnormal interest in technology related politics (my girlfriend calls me paranoid). So to the general public, i'm a geek.

Among the Slashdot crowd, I don't have quite the same geek credentials. I don't use any flavour of Linux (besides the occasional liveCD like Backtrack) because my PC is a gaming rig first and foremost. I'm not a sys admin or a programmer. The last thing I "programmed" was fifteen years ago and written in BASIC. I don't run a website, and the extent of my HTML knowledge is frames and tables. I hate math and I don't get off on exciting new prime numbers or subatomic particles. Oh, and i've only played D&D like, twice. It was fun but time consuming. Am I still a geek?

My personal opinion is that geek has moved far beyond the 1980's definition of pocket protectors, glasses, and a calculator. Geeks come in all flavours now, from classical computing and math geeks all the way into sports and automotive geeks. The microprocessor really has changed the way we see the modern world, in virtually every way. A geek is now anyone who shares both a passion for a subject and the thirst for related knowledge, no matter what that subject may be.

The geek shall inherit the Earth. :)

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (3, Insightful)

dangitman (862676) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552223)

My personal opinion is that geek has moved far beyond the 1980's definition of pocket protectors, glasses, and a calculator. Geeks come in all flavours now, from classical computing and math geeks all the way into sports and automotive geeks.

My personal opinion is that geek still means carnival folk who bite the heads off chickens. "Nerd" or "boffin" are my preferred terms for people who are excited or obsessive about technical things. "Geek" has too many connotations of falsity, they remind me of the web-bubble MBA types who wouldn't like being called nerds, and think that "geek" has cooler connotations. But there's nothing cool about biting the heads off chickens.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1)

Dun Malg (230075) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552377)

My personal opinion is that geek has moved far beyond the 1980's definition of pocket protectors, glasses, and a calculator. Geeks come in all flavours now, from classical computing and math geeks all the way into sports and automotive geeks.

Damn straight! I'm a former glasses-wearing high school computer nerd who has variously been a programmer, electrician, locksmith, auto mechanic, communications systems technician, process control engineer, and US Army Human Intelligence Collector/Infantryman over the last 20-odd years. I think "nerd/geek" is a much bigger tent than people realize.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1)

b4upoo (166390) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552463)

This kind of speed on a motorcycle involves deep understanding of motorcycles as well as high speed behaviors. There are lots of ways in which anyone can get high powered engines sufficient for that kind of speed. But making it all come together into a machine that doesn't fall apart or become impossible to control requires serious mechanical and design talent.
              In the 1950 era any street bike that reached 100 mph put its rider at great risk. I can recall bikes at 105 mph that felt like sitting on a razor blade in a hurricane. It was just grit your teeth and hope to stay alive. Now street bikes can often hit 200 mph with some elements of safety.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552011)

Many of us have friends who are interested in motorsports and the tricking-out of vehicles, and shop-talk is necessary to communicate with them.

Pardon the stereotype, but getting in tough with one's inner neanderthal is required when you're out in the desert driving metal boxes at unsafe velocities and sending search parties to other camps for loud slaps on the back before grilling fat steaks and singing war songs. Gasoline smells GOOOOOOOD.

Most importantly - know, befriend, or become an auto mechanic. They're interesting company and they'll work for parts and a 12-pack.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552167)

I am a computer geek at work. After hours I like to wrench on my WRX, or my bike, or the classic boat I had for a few years... Something different from the job. Yet I still find all the information for my vehicular diversions on the internet... Curses, foiled again!

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552215)

I don't even have a license. Anecdotally, it seems that techies drive less than other people, unless of course they live in someplace like silicon valley. But I'd bet there's less interest in cars and motorcycles among computer geeks than, say, mechanical engineers. Anyone what to chime in with their preferences/opinions?

Odd. In my (similarly anecdotal) experience, there seems to be a disproportionate intersection of Computer Geeks and Motorcyclists (the latter set the union of Riders and Enthusiasts).

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29552409)

Hmm. Even odder. In my experience there seems to be a disproportionate intersection of the homosexual bondage world and users of slackware, who seem to have their manhood wrapped up in their operating system.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29551797)

Have you ever seen an issue of Car & Driver? This is not the type of content they would carry. They mostly cover consumer production vehicles, and occasionally show some pictures of concept vehicles when they cover auto shows.

Slashdot is a natural place for this type of story, which are also often covered by WIRED and National Geographic.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (5, Funny)

master5o1 (1068594) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551843)

What the article doesn't tell you is that the motorbike was running Linux and the driver was thinking about the best car analogy while he was driving.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29552153)

What the article doesn't tell you is that the motorbike was running Linux and the driver was thinking about the best car analogy while he was driving.

Does anyone know what the land speed record is for a motorcycle running Vista. I'm sure it can't match the XP record.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1)

selven (1556643) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552359)

It's an air speed record. 9.8 meters per second squared.

Re:And this is on slashdot why? (1)

Louis Savain (65843) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551911)

Because it has its own mobile wifi, just in case the driver might need to use twitter or something to send a message to his mom or his girlfriend. One never knows in this day and age.

PS. My karma is terrible. Can you help me with some good karma, please? Hahaha...

News for Jocks and Car Enthusiasts! (-1, Flamebait)

X-Power (1009277) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551705)

I guess kdawson is a motorcycle fan? News for Jocks and Car Enthusiasts. Stuff that mattered in High School!

Re:News for Jocks and Car Enthusiasts! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29551757)

car enthusiasts aka car nerds

Re:News for Jocks and Car Enthusiasts! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29552493)

Listen, penis breath, pull your cock out of that little boy long enough to get with the program.

Pilot is the correct term. (1)

Audguy (736134) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551715)

At that speed, I'd agree that pilot is the correct term.

Re:Pilot is the correct term. (1)

the_bard17 (626642) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551893)

"I'm sorry, Officer. Was I flying too low? Wait, I left my wings at home? Sorry, sir... those aren't side mirrors, they're just stubby wings."

not a record (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29551717)

I am sorry,
that is not a motorcycle

Re:not a record (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29551761)

I am sorry, that is not a motorcycle

How is that not a motorcycle, it has only 2 wheels.

Re:not a record (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29551783)

It has a cab.

Re:not a record (2, Interesting)

Trepidity (597) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551833)

To quote the Oxford English Dictionary, which isn't always definitive but I think in this case captures the common meaning well enough, a motorcycle is:

A two-wheeled motor-driven road vehicle, resembling a bicycle but powered by an internal-combustion engine

The vehicle linked does not at all "resemble a bicycle", at least as commonly defined (enclosed two-wheel vehicles are not usually considered "bicycles").

Re:not a record (1)

HornWumpus (783565) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551989)

A Google image search for 'bicycle speed record' shows otherwise.

The flat land speed bikes in particular.

X-cycle? (1)

Louis Savain (65843) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552001)

Literally, bicycle means 'two wheels', though, and tricycle means 'three-wheels', doh! We probably would use quadracycle for 'four-wheels' but we're too damn lazy for our own good and use car instead. But your point is well taken.

Hexicycle, octocycle, decicycle, anyone? Bueller?

Re:not a record (1)

SoupIsGoodFood_42 (521389) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552445)

And since when have bikes needed to be open to be considered true bikes?

Re:not a record (1)

fafaforza (248976) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552467)

I don't recall any bicycles with full fairings on them. Does that mean supersports aren't motorcycles?

Think of the body as a really really big fairing, that encompasses the rider.

Re:not a record (2, Informative)

SilverHatHacker (1381259) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551805)

Apparently, the controls were taken from an F-4 fighter jet. But if you look at some of the pictures underneath the shell [seven-streamliner.com] it looks slightly more motorcycle-like.

Re:not a record (4, Interesting)

ZosX (517789) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551973)

I found this part particularly inspiring:

"The shape of 'Seven' is based on that of a Coho Salmon. While watching TV Denis noticed the fluid dynamics of the salmon through water. Knowing that water is more dense than air- Denis figured the shape would work very well at Bonneville. Wind Tunnel testing of Seven at the A2WT proved 'Seven' to have the lowest CoD of any streamliner- 0.09. "

There's nothing more beautiful than taking the best designs from nature and applying them to our own.

Re:not a record (-1, Troll)

ari_j (90255) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551809)

Why are you sorry about that? Why do people keep saying they're sorry when they're not? The speech pattern "I'm sorry, but " not only shows a lack of confidence in everyone's opinions, but more importantly has made it much more difficult for me to apologize for anything by destroying all meaning of the word "sorry." It's like that Saturday Night Live skit where Jim Carrey over-uses the phrase "see you in hell" so badly (even signing that in place of his name on checks) that it loses all meaning.

Re:not a record (1)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552319)

There's reason enough to apologize and I do think he meant it. Piloting a motorbike at those speeds is a great feat, it's rude to undermine the undertaking and I believe the OP "feels" that. I'm not motorhead at *all*, I hate working on cars, to me it's like all of the bad stuff that gets engineered into computers, lack of standards (metric vs english, everywhere), lack of documentation, someone always trying to upsell something, the use of jargon to displace the customer, etc. But I felt like defending the motorbike definition, because pedantically, it qualifies for the motorbike land speed and most of all it is the last land-speed that doesn't incorporate jet engines.

"Ultimate" (5, Funny)

ari_j (90255) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551775)

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Not mentioned in the article... (2, Funny)

GameMaster (148118) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551795)

What they don't mention in the article is that they strapped the driver dow nto the motorcycle and dropped them both from a really tall building...

Re:Not mentioned in the article... (4, Funny)

Matey-O (518004) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551867)

Funny thing that...you drop it off a building and it wouldn't go this fast. You need downforce and traction. Dude's got balls of Depleted Uranium.

Re:Not mentioned in the article... (1)

MartinSchou (1360093) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552413)

That wouldn't work as well as you think, as the governing body requires you to drive a full mile (really tall building) and you have to return on the same route. Not sure how fast you could get car/bike to go if it had travel straight up for a full mile.

Failed Attempt (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29551837)

Reminds me of a guy who died last year at this time [foxnews.com] on the Bonneville Salt Flats attempting the same thing. Can you imagine flying off a motorcycle at 239 MPH? Insanity.

Car Analogy? (4, Funny)

similar_name (1164087) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551845)

I need a car analogy before I can understand this.

Re:Car Analogy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29551903)

Well, this is kinda like buying a regular car and then spending some money to hire a team to take it apart, re-melt the parts and use the metal, plastic and other stuff to cast a custom warp drive, make a hull, connect the two with some structurals, add life support and proceed to take 10,000 settlers to alpha centauri. Except there is no warp drive, only a hull, the settlers are still on Earth and the cash is gone.

Re:Car Analogy? (1)

lastgoodnickname (1438821) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552075)

The motorbike is like half a car

Re:Car Analogy? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29552077)

Imagine driving your car really fast

Motorcycle? (5, Informative)

siddesu (698447) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551851)

As a biker with a long graying beard, lemme point out that whatever that thing on the picture is, it damn sure ain't a motorcycle.

Re:Motorcycle? (1)

MicktheMech (697533) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551879)

I guess they call anything with a motor and two wheels a motorcycle. I'm with you. I was wondering how they strapped the guy on so that he wouldn't fly off. Well, their motorcycle has a fuselage.

Re:Motorcycle? (1)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552003)

Re:Motorcycle? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29552019)

There is a picture of a motorcycle, and an eggshell wrapped around it. What is your point?

Re:Motorcycle? (2, Informative)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552183)

The monicker "streamliner" defines the bike as a different class of motorcycle with historical precendent.

If this is the car http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThrustSSC [wikipedia.org] and this is the trike http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_of_America [wikipedia.org] , then I don't see why the streamliner can't be the bike.

Instead of criticizing, you might take pride in the fact that the motorcycle land speed is still the last that isn't set with jet engines dragging rubber across the ground.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_land_speed_record [wikipedia.org]

Re:Motorcycle? (1)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552201)

" the *motorbike* land speed "

erm, had to fix that.

Re:Motorcycle? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29552469)

Sorry, but you're still wrong. Those pictures in your links are of wingless cruise missiles, not cars or motorcycles.

You should get out more, that should give you some perspective on what cars and motorcycles in the real world look like.

Re:Motorcycle? (2, Informative)

Known Nutter (988758) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552115)

define:motorcycle
a motor vehicle with two wheels and a strong frame

I do, however, agree with you both. That ain't no motorcycle.

Re:Motorcycle? (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552443)

define:motorcycle
A motor vehicle invisible to a lane changing SUV.

Re:Motorcycle? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29552237)

> I guess they call anything with a motor and two wheels a motorcycle.

Now the segway nerds can try passing themselves off as bikers...

Re:Motorcycle? (2, Insightful)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552267)

I trim my greying beard from time to time, so it may not be as long as yours. But, I remember all the Harley heads laughing at my bike. "Riceburner" they called it. The only things they had more contempt for were cagers - and it was a close call at that.

IMHO - this is a bike. A very specialized bike, true, but a bike all the same.

I never managed to get my KZ900 up to the speed record set by the Z900, but I managed to get to ~180. Not bad, IMO. Maybe there will be a production bike made someday based on this Seven. Maybe no. I mean, the reason I never got the KZ going any faster, was that I didn't have a long enough straightaway to go any faster. Where do we find a straightaway to crank our machine up to double that speed?

Whatever. It takes plenty of balls to get out on the street with the 4-wheelers, and it took the same kind of balls (if bigger) to crank this bike up to 360 MPH.

Re:Motorcycle? (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552451)

Sadly air-cooled pushrod engines don't do 367 mph. Not even with a chrome sissybar and tassles on the handlebars.

Motorcycle? (1)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551899)

Kudos to the driver and the team, but that thing is a motorcycle in spirit only.
Can the definition of a motorcycle include an enclosed cockpit?

Re:Motorcycle? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29551975)

Only when I fuck your dead great grandmother.

Re:Motorcycle? (1)

FooAtWFU (699187) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552279)

I believe our federal government classifies any three-wheeled motorized vehicle capable of traveling over 25mph or so as a "motorcycle". (Those that are limited to 25 are probably just classed as mopeds.)

Splat! (2, Funny)

qw0ntum (831414) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551969)

If the /record/ speed is 367.382mph, but during the run the driver reached 380mph, I could imagine he must have been very uncomfortable smashed against the windshield of his "motorcycle".

Re:Splat! (1)

Cerium (948827) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552303)

I'm surprised no one else brought this up.
If the driver reached 380mph, why is the record not 380mph (or, as mocked above, how is the driver not very very dead)?

Re:Splat! (1)

qw0ntum (831414) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552399)

After reading a bit more about it, turns out the record is an average speed: you have to go run the track both ways, and then come back. They calculate the average speed from both runs. Makes it a bit more interesting than a drag race, huh? Making an engine that could do both runs untouched was part of their challenge!

Re:Splat! (1)

digitalchinky (650880) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552411)

Because a speed record is based on average speed, not top speed. Not just in one direction either, they have to turn around and repeat it going roughly back the way they came.

Re:Splat! (1)

xmundt (415364) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552415)

I'm surprised no one else brought this up.
If the driver reached 380mph, why is the record not 380mph (or, as mocked above, how is the driver not very very dead)?

Greetings and Salutations....
          Since no one else seems to have mentioned it....this is likely because the top speed recorded between the points that are the measured
course for the record was the smaller number, and, the bike was still accelerating at the end of the measure course. It would not take
much more time to reach a peak speed only 12.62 MPH faster than the record.
            Regards
            Dave Mundt

Re:Splat! (1)

Sinbios (852437) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552479)

The official record speed is the average over two runs.

Re:Splat! (1)

selven (1556643) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552369)

Most speed records are done over a short distance, like a kilometer or a mile.

Darwin Award (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 4 years ago | (#29551979)

The story reminded me the Jato Rocket Car [darwinawards.com] urban legend. The speed reached there is even lower than the one that got that motorcycle.

If that is a motorcycle.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29551997)

Does it mean that airplanes are just winged tricyles?

5 Parsecs (1)

dotslashdot (694478) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552029)

But can it do the Kessell run in 5 parsecs? That's what I thought.

Re:5 Parsecs (1)

Known Nutter (988758) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552149)

and... does it run Linux?

interesting stuff is in links from the second link (4, Interesting)

bcrowell (177657) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552035)

IMO the first linked article was not very interesting. To get to the interesting stuff, you have to go to the second linked article, then click through to the links from there. The pictures of how they fabricated the engine block are really cool. I was surprised there wasn't more info about the tires. My understanding was that tires were the main limiting factor in land speed records -- or maybe that's only for cars. Tires tend to fly apart when rotated that fast. I would assume that at these speeds they get incredible gyroscopic stability, so I guess you don't have to worry about tipping over. They have to run the course in both directions without messing with the engine, which apparently is quite a challenge. I wasn't clear on what's involved in turning around to come back. The bike has both brakes and parachutes. Does the driver actually brake and do a steered u-turn at low speed, or do they use parachutes, then pick the thing back up and turn it around by hand?

Re:interesting stuff is in links from the second l (4, Informative)

ffreeloader (1105115) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552107)

When doing a LSR run at Bonneville you have something like a half hour between runs. They let you refuel and check the vehicle over between runs for safety reasons. If you have a problem and can't make it back to the starting line on time you're toast. You one-way run doesn't count for anything.

Re:interesting stuff is in links from the second l (2, Informative)

MachDelta (704883) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552125)

They'll probably turn it by hand, most land speed vehicles have a tiny, tiny amount of steering angle to keep a sudden twitch on the driver's part from turning into a two mile long barrel roll.

I see what they're going for (1)

Hailth (1479371) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552227)

The engineers behind this are trying to develop an ACTUAL rice rocket.

Step 1 - Build a rocket and attach it to two in-line wheels, COMPLETE!
Step 2 - Make it out of rice

Re:I see what they're going for (1)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552295)

That wouldn't work: there's no cycle in a rocket motor (except the turbo-pumps in a liquid rocket) It's open circuit.

The World's Fastest Indian (1)

Frobisher (677079) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552383)

How bloody spooky. I was just re-watching "The World's Fastest Indian" and then I see this on Slashdot. Good movie.

Well done BUB (1)

physburn (1095481) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552407)

This isn't exactly geek news, but good luck to them.

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Motor Bike [feeddistiller.com] Feed @ Feed Distiller [feeddistiller.com]

Re:Well done BUB (1)

fafaforza (248976) | more than 4 years ago | (#29552497)

There's a fair bit of engineering and machining involved, stuff that no one has ever done really, no different than building a Mars rover, yet you probably wouldn't complain about the rover being mentioned on the front page.

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