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Hatebase Tries To Scan For Precursors of Genocide In Language

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the philip-k-dick-to-the-white-courtesy-phone dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Hatebase, a new crowdsourced database of multilingual hate speech from The Sentinel Project, is an attempt to create a repository of words and phrases that researchers can use to detect the early stages of genocide."

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hatebase? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376459)

Fuck that.

Re:hatebase? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376505)

Goddamn it /., you motherfucking twathole thundercunt bollix asshole jizzmopping ballbag pack of cumbubbling twats! Go frig your hairy ballbags, you wee dicked pack of cocksmokers! I hear your mom got circumcised in a KFC bathroom. Eat baby feces, you shit faced cock gobblers. Eat my crap sheathed fuckstick, you tramp fisting knob goblins.

Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (0, Troll)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | about 2 years ago | (#43376585)

... all speech that are not sanctioned by the liberals

No, they do not believe in the true concept of FREE speech - their only aim is to force everyone in using political correct speeches

Re:Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (4, Interesting)

retchdog (1319261) | about 2 years ago | (#43376629)

Oh, calm down.

This is the same as any NLP crowd-sourcing tool; it's simply designed with a focus on correlating vocabulary with prejudicial sentiment. No one is planning to use it to pass restrictive laws. It's just useful for people who are involved in a country, but are not fluent speakers of $foo or involved in the right subcultures, to know that a certain word has now acquired a negative connotation.

Maybe those people should butt out, sure, but you're jumping the gun a bit, here. If they could force everyone to use ``political correct speeches", they wouldn't need this app in the first place.

Re:Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (4, Interesting)

overlordofmu (1422163) | about 2 years ago | (#43376743)

NLP = natural language processing

This is the same as any NLP crowd-sourcing tool; it's simply designed with a focus on correlating vocabulary with prejudicial sentiment.

In case some of you were wondering about the acronym. That becomes:

This is the same as any natural language processing crowd-sourcing tool; it's simply designed with a focus on correlating vocabulary with prejudicial sentiment.

To take the conjugation one step further it becomes:

This shit be the same shit as any goddamn shit where we get other motherfuckers to do the fucking dirty work of working out when shit-talkers, shit-talking in some other fucking language, be talking shit is a way that means that those fuckwits mean to start some shit.

Of course, sometimes you can take conjugation a bit too far.

Re:Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376785)

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought it was Neuro-Linguistic Programming.

Re:Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377609)

Of course, sometimes you can take conjugation a bit too far.

Like trying to conjugate a pluperfect or future perfect in a non-indicative mood!

Re:Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (5, Informative)

SplashMyBandit (1543257) | about 2 years ago | (#43377041)

The parent was right. Why do you think the Left and leftist media completely ignore the genocides happening *today*. These are happening and you are completely unaware of them. Why? because the Left don't want you to know. If you care to look you can see:
  • The Islamic genocide against Assyrian Christians in Iraq. Most Assyrians have fled and the rest have been killed. Don't blame this on the US invasion of Iraq. It happened under Saddam. Now under democracy (as in, "mob rule") the pace has accelerated, but the motivation is the same. Sura 9:5 "The Verse of the Sword". See
    http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/swordverse.htm [answering-islam.org]
    Did you know this?
  • The Sudanese Islamist genocide against animist and Christian Southern Sudanese. Jihadi raids still occur and non-Muslims are taken as *slaves* (as permitted under Sharia). This is happening *today*. See the testimony of Simon Deng (a former slave).
  • The call for genocide against Jews, as commanded by the Qur'an. See the following article for all the reasons the Qur'an and Palestinians give for killing Jews based on *mainstream* Islamic doctrine: http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=584 [palwatch.org]
    Note that anyone who supports the Islamist cause against Israel is unwittingly supporting this genocidal agenda. The Israelis are not the aggressors (as the historically ignorant often believe). The Jews have been living in Palestine *continuously* for over 3000 years (the Roman expulsions were temporary, and only from Jerusalem). The modern State of Israel is trying to *defend* its citizens from the *aggression* and schemes of the 57 Muslim Majority countries in the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (although countries like Azerbaijan get on well with Israelis, and after many attempted genocides Jordan now has working relations). Anyone who thinks the Arabs are the victims simply doesn't know the genocidal agendas of Hamas and Hezbollah (hint, look for the hate speech in the Hamas Charter: http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/www.thejerusalemfund.org/carryover/documents/charter.html [thejerusalemfund.org] ). When Hamas talks about "Occupied Territories" they mean killing, expelling, or enslaving all non-Muslims in *all of Israel*.
  • The expulsion, killing, and denial of rights to Serbs in northern Kosovo by Albanian Muslims. This is happening today. Did you know that?
  • The genocides between Sunni and Shia branches of Islam, and the Sunni+Shia attacks on more peaceful Sufis. This is happening *today* in Syria, Iraq, Iran, Turkey (against Kurds), Pakistan as Islamic sect battles Islamic sect (with the aim of expelling the "apostate" sects): See: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ [thereligionofpeace.com]
    particularly http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks [thereligionofpeace.com]
  • We won't even talk about the historical genocides of approximately one million Armenians by Turkish jihadis in 1915, or the hundreds of thousands slaughtered by the two Bosnian Muslim SS divisions in World War II (raised by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni [wikipedia.org] - the bastard who told Hitler the idea of the "Final Solution", stating "Who remembers the Armenians").
  • Then we have the genocides soon to come. The persecution and subjugation of Christian Copts in Egypt. Now that Obama installed the Muslim Brotherhod the life of Copts is going from bad (as dhimmis) to worse. Bad stuff is happening to the Copts *every day*. And the media and leftist "human rights" organizations are mostly silent (with a few exceptions). Did you know all the bad stuff happening to Copts today? http://www.amnesty.ie/news/coptic-christians-under-attack-in-Egypt [amnesty.ie]
  • Then we have the massacres in Asia: gunning down of school children in Thailand every week by Islamic militants; then we have the massacres of Christians by Muslim mobs in Aceh, Indonesia - that's when the "moderate" Indonesians aren't busy burning Churches http://www.persecution.org/2013/03/08/rising-intolerance-across-indonesia-leads-to-violent-attacks-against-christians/ [persecution.org]
  • Then we have the whole ethnic cleansing of the Middle East of Jews. In 1900 Baghdad, Iraq was about 25% Christian. Today it is virtually zero. Turkey 500 years ago was a Christian country, now Christians are relatively rare. In 1948 around 600,000 Jews were deported from countries in the Middle East (around 150% of the number of Arabs who chose to leave Palestine so that the five Arab armies could more easily commit the genocide they openly stated against the newly formed State of Israel). Did you know this?

And what is driving these genocides? Islam. See what Mohammed's Personal Example shows with regard to torture, killings and genocide:
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad [wikiislam.net]

Fortunately in places like Europe and the US the Muslim population is too small to commit genocide. They are just pockets of "no-go" zones instead. As the demographics change (the complete tidal wave of immigration from Islamic countries, coupled with a high birth rate of Islamic immigrants) the proportion of 'natives' will diminish at a rapid rate. The political Left want you to think that violence caused by young Muslim men is because they are a disaffected, poor, minority (and must be protected/excused at all costs - even if it completely disregards the feelings of the previous inhabitants). However the Left have stupidly misread the situation completely. As the proportion of Muslims in a country gets higher the trouble increases. If Muslims are in the majority that's when the genocide, expulsion and enslavement begin. If nothing is done then all of the US will look like Dearborn, Michigan (where the local corrupt cops essentially enforce Sharia restrictions on Constitutional First Amendment Free Speech by making up bogus charges [Citation:"Acts 17 Apologetics", http://www.answeringmuslims.com/p/dearborn.html [answeringmuslims.com] ).

Fortunately the West is slowly waking up. Even the retarded politicians. There is resistance against recognizing the true cause of the problem (eg. mainstream Islamic doctrine) from academia and the political hard Left, as they have bought into their own fantasy of the situation (ideologically based and not looking at the numbers and facts). The solutions are fairly simple: tighten immigration criteria and have upper limits on immigration; do not implement any part of Sharia as criminal codes (several US states now have statutes that state that foreign law cannot apply to US citizens - this is how it should be); defense of Free Speech (rather than the Sharia-compliant politically correct censorship that is increasing at a drastic rate); do not allow Muslims to use "culture" as a defense in crimes (such as the organized Muslim pedophile rings in England; or the violence in Marsaille; or the rapes in Australia and Sweden [which has had its rape rate go up 500%, all committed by immigrants who have no respect for women: http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/1-in-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-as-sexual-assaults-increase-500/ [frontpagemag.com] ; are all the Swedish men such pussies they won't take a stand for the rights and safety of their women? who cares what the politcally correct Left say? stand up Vikings!])

Before any idiot comes back with the utter *falsehood* that "Islam is a religion of peace" and has "no compulsion" based on Sura 2:256 then please understand that this passage has been abrogated and no longer applies.
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/verses.htm [flawlesslogic.com]
It is a required duty of every Muslim to wage jihad on all non-Muslims (see Qur'an Chapter 9, especially 9:5 and surrounds): see also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsArto3UVT0 [youtube.com] (Stephen Coughlin: Understanding the War on Terror Through Islamic Law) [Check out Stephen's other videos too]
If someone quotes the "no compulsion in religion" then they either are ignorant of Islam (and don't understand the doctrine of abrogation), or they are deliberately lying to you using one of the methods of lying commanded by the Qur'an (to deceive non-Muslims until it is too late); taqiyya, tawriya, kitman, or muruna

You should be asking yourself, "Why aren't the slow genocides happening today being reported in the media? why isn't my political representative talking about it or doing something about it?". The answer is you are being lied to, deliberately, so you don't make a fuss until it is all over and the world has changed (you are slowly but surely being put in a cage with transparent bars).

So, the litmus test of Hatebase will be if it can detect the subtleties in the Qur'an, Hadith and Sira (canonical doctrines of Islam) that end up in Islam having a higher proportion of hate speech and more calls for genocide than Mein Kampf! See http://counterjihadreport.com/tag/mein-kampf/ [counterjihadreport.com] where the Meccan Qur'an has 17% hate speech vs 7% for Mein Kampf. Note that the genocide that Islam commands is against all non-Muslims; Jews, Christians, atheists, Zoroastrians, Hindus & Buddhists [not mentioned by name, apparently Allah didn't know about these ancient traditions], pagans/polytheists; Muslims of other sects etc. The Islamists have been at it for 1400 years and already killed 270 million people (now *that* is genocide!). If you are not a Muslim you are on the hit list (particularly if you are Jewish, Christian, gay, pagan, or atheists [especially]). Hopefully Hatebase will make you feel safe - by pointing out the fscking obvious.

If Hatebase misses the "elephant in the room" with regard to genocide (the evil and genocidal commandments of *core* Islamic doctrine) then we know that its algorithms and design aren't worth diddly squat.

ps. 2/3 of the world apparently has "Islamophobia". That means 2/3 of the world understands what a genocidal threat Islam is . Hopefully through dissemination of *facts*, *history* and a proper analysis of *Islamic doctrine* we can get that number up to 80% (that is, everyone who is not already trapped in Islam). Fortunately, most Muslims don't understand the commandments of their own religion (actually, when they do discover its true evilness very many moral Muslims leave, despite the fact that the "apostasy" of leaving Islam is punishable by death: http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/People_Who_Left_Islam [wikiislam.net] ). Most Muslims (people)do no harm, despite the evilness of Islam (the ideology). But this will change, Saudi and Iranian petrodollars are spreading the messages of fundamental Islam from the Wahabbis and Salafis, so things will probably get a lot worse.

Please also note that "Islamophobia" is made-up word used to silence proponents of Enlightenment Liberties like quality of men and women and Free Speech (which are completely at odds with the barbarity of Islamic Sharia law). Citation:
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/david-horowitz-and-robert-spencer/islamophobia-thought-crime-of-the-totalitarian-future-4/ [frontpagemag.com] Islamophobia: Thought Crime of the Totalitarian Future
http://www.meforum.org/pipes/3075/islamophobia [meforum.org]

So if you call me an "Islamophobe" all I'll do is think that you don't know what it means, and you don't know its history and how it was crafted to promote the Islamic supremacist agenda and neutralize people telling the truth about Islam.

If you want to defend the genocidal agenda of Islam (as in, you are on the political Left, eg, strong Democrat supportor or ignorant student) then please debate me with citations and facts. I'll listen. Simply slandering me is a normal tactic of the Left, but it also shows you have no other argument to make. If you don't understand history very well (especially the history of Palestine and Islam), don't know Islamic doctrine inside-out, or have a poor understanding of the modern fallacies propagated by the Left then I will tear you a new one. Bring facts or get shredded. You have been warned (I do not tolerate ignorant apologists for the evil that Islam has and continues to wreak on the civilized World).

Re: Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377453)

Stupid moron. You are right with your anger at islam. What you don't understand is that it's the right who manfacture this enemy. Your ultra-rightist presidents gave money to islamist fundamentalists to defeat russian communism (which, as an atheist state, was not pro-islam).

Once you'll see who your real enemt is (the american far-right) maybe then you'll be anything else than an useful idiot.

Re:Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377585)

Truer words were never spoken, but around here you'll get modded down. You have to understand that most of slashdot IS leftist and they enjoy displaying their ignorance and hatefulness. They always accuse others of what they themselves are thinking and doing. Always.

Re:Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377603)

Very interesting and well articulated read by some who cares enough to include good research links.

Re:Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377863)

The parent was right.

Fuck you, Jewboy.

Re:Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (4, Insightful)

overlordofmu (1422163) | about 2 years ago | (#43376689)

Instead of "they", please try using the the word "we".

Here is a FTFY (aka fixed-that-for-you) example. I will now conjugate the following:

No, they do not believe in the true concept of FREE speech - their only aim is to force everyone in using political correct speeches

With the FTFY conjugation which takes ownership of all aspects of society by turning all third person plural forms into first person plural forms that quote becomes:

No, we do not believe in the true concept of FREE speech - our only aim is to force everyone in using political correct speeches (sic)

My point is that "they" are not the problem. My point is that "we" are the problem. Every last fallible one of us can be a problem or a solution. The difference is often a matter of how compassionate we are combined with how much we are able to take personal responsibility for problems. Even (maybe especially?) the problems which seem to be caused by other people.

While I may be liberal and you may be conservative, the reality is that our society is comprised of both of us and we are both liberal and conservative. We are all the things we which are. By treating the problem as "our" problem instead of "their" problem we can approach the solution with realism and healing, instead of idealism and revenge.

Of course we could, instead, go on blaming other people, but look where that has gotten us so far . . .

Re:Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377115)

we can approach the solution with realism and healing, instead of idealism and revenge

Realism/Healing vs. Idealism/Revenge

You should write speeches for politicians. This is an excellent false dichotomy. While I'm also a liberal, I'm hesitant to label myself as such because all too often the term is used to indicate that one is a member of the PC-Police, such as yourself. If there was a Ministry of Truth you'd be a great writer for them. It's sad that the flamebait you responded to has more truth in it than your attempt to rationalize political correctness -- oh, I'm sorry, your attempt to approach the 'problem' with realism and healing.

Save your bullshit for your Sociology class. Fuck your inclusiveness, I'm an individual.

Maybe I missed the point. I apologize if your post is a tongue-in-cheek. Now that I think about it, it's so absurd I really hope so. Of course, it's also the type of thing that Sociology professors say with a straight face.

Re:Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (1)

Alsee (515537) | about 2 years ago | (#43377681)

YOU are obviously ONE OF THEM!

Burn the witch!


Re:Hatebase as in hate speech, as in ... (2)

Rockoon (1252108) | about 2 years ago | (#43377879)

While I may be liberal and you may be conservative..

You are not a classical liberal, which is his point.

The whole modern liberals and conservatives idea is a false dichotomy, because the former is about social liberalism via the theft of freedom while the later is about social conservatism via the theft of freedom.

When you vote for the lesser of two evils you get ever increasing evil. Both will enslave you to their agenda.

What? Why? (1)

Penguinisto (415985) | about 2 years ago | (#43376649)

...don't most FPS pub servers have chatlogs?

It'd be easier to research if they did.

Re:hatebase? (3, Insightful)

jamesh (87723) | about 2 years ago | (#43376793)

I'm with you. Haterbase would be a much cooler name.

Scan for precurors? (1)

aglider (2435074) | about 2 years ago | (#43376463)

So you could also scan for precursors of the next POTUS from twitter and facebook?
Ah! I bet you won't!

Re:Scan for precurors? (1)

Forty Two Tenfold (1134125) | about 2 years ago | (#43376935)

No, start with the Hebrew bible and continue from there, via christianity, especially through the writings of the doctors of the church and popes in times of great wars in Europe and Levant.

Re:Scan for precurors? (1)

slick7 (1703596) | about 2 years ago | (#43377135)

So you could also scan for precursors of the next POTUS from twitter and facebook? Ah! I bet you won't!

You would find better examples and the names of haters by looking at the NDAA and those who signed it.

Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate". (5, Insightful)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | about 2 years ago | (#43376467)

My expectation is that this will be used for political infighting, much like the genocide it purports to try to head off.

The "crowd" will include activists for one (or more) sides of contentious political disputes, who will feed the database with typical word choices of their enemies, in the hope of branding them as potential genocide perpetrators. The result will be a produce far more false positives than true ones (if it produces any of the latter at all).

Indeed, the very phrase "hate speech" is such a faction-specific term. It is used by the US left wing to attempt to suppress politically incorrect free speech - especially politicall speech - of those with whom they disagree.

For an example of what I'm talking about, look at the Southern Poverty Law Center's pronouncements - including especially their advice to law enforcement and the Department of Homeland Security that displaying bumper stickers supporting Ron Paul during the presidential primary, or any of a number of other pro-Constitution or Tea Party political position messages, was a sign that the driver was a terrorist.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376551)

but the Tea Party actually is a terrorist organization. So is any organization with same ideas.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (-1, Flamebait)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | about 2 years ago | (#43376571)

Almost right.

The Tea Party *wishes* that it were a terrorist org.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (-1, Flamebait)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | about 2 years ago | (#43376885)

To the cretin who knows how to give a Flamebait mod but doesn't understand when, where, or why it's appropriate to do so:

Let's put 10 Tea Partyers up against 10 Al Qaeda and see who the real men are.

I'm in for 100 Euro. I will pay up if the TPs last longer than 10 minutes.

If they don't, you can post again in this thread using your login and thus cancel the wrongful mod.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377399)

Your handle of the Mindless is fitting.

Comparing a group of jingoistic patriots to a bunch of terrorists in relation to their bravery in a fight is the most asine thing I've heard in a while.

A psychopath knows no fear, remorse or even simply empathy, hence the reason he can believe in the 70 virgins and blow himself up.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (1, Interesting)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | about 2 years ago | (#43377517)

That's exactly my point--the Tea Partiers *wish* they were brave and fanatical enough to be terrorists, but they're too cowardly and self-centred either to put up, or to shut up.

I don't agree with Al-Qaeda's objectives but I can still recognise that their dedication to their cause is nothing to sneer at.

Also, while dismissing people's religious beliefs as "pychopathy" is perfectly valid in some contexts, it is not very smart at all in others.

BTW, I don't expect anyone to get the "Mindless" thing without having studied Zen [wikipedia.org] . (In 15+ years, not many have, so you're in good company.)

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (2)

Mashiki (184564) | about 2 years ago | (#43377477)

Almost right.

The Tea Party *wishes* that it were a terrorist org.

Congratulations on falling hook, line and sinker for the "one side is out making grandiose statements which aren't true and used for political disputes" as pointed out in the above post. While you're at it, you should really pay attention to exactly who's pushing that narrative.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (1)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | about 2 years ago | (#43377539)

But I'm not involved in their argument.

So you're trying to congratulate me on something that didn't happen.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376693)

but Slashdot actually is a terrorist organization. So is any organization with same ideas.

(Who's next? Let's just keep going until the terrorists have won.)

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376983)

Slashdot parent poster is a suspected terrorist and has been reported to DHS Anti-Terrorist authorities. IP address and other relevant information has been recorded for posterity. Thank you for your time.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (5, Insightful)

mrbluze (1034940) | about 2 years ago | (#43376633)

My expectation is that this will be used for political infighting, much like the genocide it purports to try to head off.

I rather think this will be used to weed out political dissent among the population.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376733)

The big problem is that the term 'Hate Speech" has been diluted from it's original meaning (holding hatred against someone because of their skin color or culture without respect for their individuality). I have actually seen some media pundits claim that any criticsm of Wall Street banks is tantamount to Anti-Semitic Hate Speech, even though very few of the banks on Wall Street are actually "Jewish owned." Further, the problem with our immature culture is that they are unable to shake their racist mindsets in that they cannot handle criticism of a politician who is in some way associated with a disenfranchised group of NON-POLITICAL OFFICE HOLDERS, claiming that it is Hate Speech to have political difference of opinion. How could this, given how loosely the term is thrown around, be turned bad very quickly?

  I also see this as being a bit of a problem being fully crowd-sourced. I know we all like the idea of something being fully 'of the people', but I can also see thing as being used in personal feuds and grudges. . . which,. ironically, is how a lot of Genocides actually end up (People 'reporting' their 'rivals' to be rounded up based on personal feuds). What protection is in place to guard against fraudulent claims?

Also, I am also confused because Genocide requires racism as public policy. Some moron screaming about how he hates some person based on their race is not about to create a genocide. If anything, they'll just alienate themselves. You need a government to commit genocide, so why isn't this software ESPECIALLY monitoring governments? What this service should be doing is targeting government and media for hate speech, which is what happened in Rwanda and Nazi Germany.

I think the people who made the software have the right intentions. I totally jive with the intentions. . . but I also see the immature nature of our political landscape as incompatible with something as dignified as this. As long as you are claiming anyone who you don't agree with is engaging in 'hate speech', regardless of whether there is any racially motivated ratred going on or not, then it's somewhat useless and potentially Orwellian.

I don't really agree with some of the positions that conservatives or Tea Partiers espouse, but they are legitimate discourse in a free Democratic country. . . If you add up A. *Labeling all oppositional speech as Hate Speech* and B. Providing an automated way of 'reporting' people for 'Hate Speech", it starts to look like something other than what it is.

This is coming from someone from a Jewish lineage who had direct family members fall victim to the Genocide in Nazi Germany. . . So. . . STFU! I don't like racists, but I'm pretty sure snitches aren't much better, even if the person snitched on has some pretty terrible ideas. IF a government starts spewing that kind of stuff, that's when you need to watch out.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (1)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | about 2 years ago | (#43376901)

You need a government to commit genocide

Says who?

The only requirement is that people kill a bunch of other people based on their race/ethnic group/religion/whatever.

Having a government with policies friendly to this type of activity is certainly helpful, but is in no way a requirement for it to happen.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (1)

SirCowMan (1309199) | about 2 years ago | (#43377615)

Actually, it pretty much is - not necessarily a government per se but a body of power at least, which could include social shapers such as religions. Genocide is more than just being racist and killing others, it's a co-ordinated mass attempt at extermination. It requires a lot of funding, logistics, and particularly an extensive build-up of dehumanization of the target group. Which means propagation of such a message by newspaper, radio, television, and/or internet.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (1)

MickLinux (579158) | about 2 years ago | (#43377689)

Apparently that wasn't the way the Rwandan Hutu/Tutsi genocide played out. There, the hate speech was on the radio, by radio talk show hosts. In Bosnia, it was by the various new political leaders of the new governments... but the governments were very new. Stalin's genocide of the Ukranians and Lithuanians was more like what you say.

The genocidal US "downwind" experiments, and the Tuskegee experiments, or Andrew Jackson's "trail of tears"....I'm not really aware of what went on before the events.

So I don't think you're completely wrong, but I think you don't have a big enough picture.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (1, Informative)

Required Snark (1702878) | about 2 years ago | (#43376771)

The Republican Party spouts "Hate Speech" continuously.

Priebus accuses Democrats of supporting infanticide

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus took a break from rebranding the Republican party to accuse Democrats of supporting infanticide.

He writes on Red State: "The President, the Senate Majority Leader, the House Democratic Leader, and the Chair of the Democratic National Committee (in whose home state this hearing occurred) made funding Planned Parenthood an issue in the 2012 campaign. They should now all be held to account for that outspoken support. If the media won't, then voters must ask the pressing questions: Do these Democrats also believe a newborn has no rights? Do they also endorse infanticide?"

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/04/03/priebus_accuses_democrats_of_supporting_infanticide.html [politicalwire.com]

Republican links gun control to bestiality

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) linked his opposition to any gun control legislation to gay marriage and bestiality on a conference call, a recording of which was obtained by Right Wing Watch.

Said Gohmert: "In fact, I had this discussion with some wonderful, caring Democrats earlier this week on the issue of, well, they said "surely you could agree to limit the number of rounds in a magazine, couldn't you? How would that be problematic?"

"And I pointed out, well, once you make it ten, then why would you draw the line at ten? What's wrong with nine? Or eleven? And the problem is once you draw that limit ; it's kind of like marriage when you say it's not a man and a woman any more, then why not have three men and one woman, or four women and one man, or why not somebody has a love for an animal?"

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/04/02/lawmaker_links_gun_control_to_bestiality.html [politicalwire.com]

Both of these were just in the last week, by a current member of the House, and the head of the Republican National Committee. These aren't some fringe types yelling from the sidelines, they are mainstream and one is in a national leadership position. This kind of stupid crap is being said by mainstream Republican officials every day. It's so common that it takes a particularly inspired bout of vile accusations to even get reported.

An before you try and justify this slanderous shit by claiming that the Democrats do the same thing: No they don't. No serving Democratic official says anything like this. Note that these are actual quotes from the individuals, not some perverse made up fantasy on Fox News, or as it should be called Fox Pravda

So I'm going to look into this project, and I may contribute some examples like this. It's not like I would have any trouble finding material.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (3, Insightful)

AlphaWolf_HK (692722) | about 2 years ago | (#43377021)

I think you just proved his point. You are doing exactly that, you are using this as fodder for political infighting. You don't like it so you label it as hate speech. Does that mean we treat it the same way Europe treats it? Somebody makes an anti-Semitic comment on twitter, so France wants to put them in jail?

Anyways, yes they both do it. 10 seconds of google and I found something that tops yours: Obama makes fun of disabled people:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/03/president-ob-15-3/ [go.com]

You're one of those people who I commonly rail against when I say we need to stop treating the election like we're rival football teams. Quite possibly one of the ones I rail against for blind voting.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (1)

Alex Belits (437) | about 2 years ago | (#43377871)

Anyways, yes they both do it. 10 seconds of google and I found something that tops yours: Obama makes fun of disabled people:

Yes, and I constantly offend retarded people by comparing them to Microsoft and Adobe programmers, HP management, religious leaders, followers of Ayn Rand, and other dangerous people.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (2)

ilsaloving (1534307) | about 2 years ago | (#43377925)

I'm curious what search terms you used. I just read the article you linked, and I would argue that the article is evidence *against* your point rather than for.

Firstly, it's from 4 years ago. The parent was talking about how stuff is said by republicans continually, and pointed out something from last week.

Secondly, the president reached out by phone to the head of the special olympics, profusely apologizing for the comments. Unless you can point to a more recent article where Obama, or any other Democrat, says something else disparaging then to me this means the comments was a one-time gaff and that the lesson was well learned.

I'm reminded of another discussion where someone pointed out how Democrats like, because one particular Democrat was discussed in a "false truth" article on politifact. However, when you start looking at the sum total of "false truth" articles on politifacts, Republicans outnumber Democrats by a pretty large ratio.

I used to think there was no difference between the Republicans and Democrats apart from who they pander to. But now I think that, while the Democrats arn't the 'good guys', they're the overwhelming lesser of two evils.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (5, Insightful)

RogueyWon (735973) | about 2 years ago | (#43377063)

I'm not in the US, so maybe I'm missing some context here, but...

How on earth are either of the links you've just posted examples of hate speech? The first is a line on the abortion debate that we've seen many times over the years. I'm not going to pick sides in that one; but if you approach the debate (as some people do) with the starting point that foes "life begins at conception" then abortion is infanticide. I think a lot of the lack of civility around that particular debate stems from the fact that neither side recognises just how high the stakes feel for the other side in it.

The second link is a fairly silly take on the gun control debate that somehow slides into an odd reductio ab absurdum take on the gay marriage debate. But again, incoherent though it is, is it really hate speech?

If somebody says "All members of (ethnic group x/social group y) are scum! Let's (kill them/throw them out of our country/deprive them of their property rights)" then that feels like hate speech. That's a hell of a long way from either of the examples you link to.

As a test, let's take an example from a left-wing perspective of somebody linking a (generally supported - the UK public consistently backs a tougher line on welfare in polls) Government policy to murder. In this case, it's the murder of the disabled rather than the infanticide, but I think that's still pretty emotive. So: from the UK's Guardian newspaper [guardian.co.uk] . Is that hate speech?

If you answer "yes", at least you're consistent. If your answer is no, then it looks more like you're just demonstrating totalitarian instincts to suppress speech that goes against your own values.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (1)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | about 2 years ago | (#43377705)

Actually, the accusation that Democrats support infanticide is based on more than the idea that abortion is infanticide. As the OP pointed out the starting point for the accusation is that Democrats almost uniformly support government funding of Planned Parenthood. In a legislative hearing on a bill to require abortion clinics to provide medical care to a baby born alive after an attempted abortion, Planned Parenthood's representative repeatedly stated that whether or not to provide any care to the infant (once it has actually been born, everyone agrees that it is an infant) should be a decision made by the mother and the doctor. When one reads what she was saying it is clear that she was supporting the right of the mother to allow her newborn child to die of exposure if the mother had been trying to abort the pregnancy. So, Planned Parenthood's representative was advocating, indirectly, for the right of the mother, in certain circumstances and in conjunction with a doctor, to perform infanticide. This was not a circumstance where the Planned Parenthood representative was ambushed and was not sure how to respond. She had gone before the legislature expressly to testify against this law. She should have known that this was the sort of question she was going to get. Therefore one can assume that the answers she gave were the ones that she prepared to give.
Of course, one of the things that is overlooked is that this law was introduced at the same time that an abortion doctor in another state is on trial for killing a woman who came to him for an abortion and for killing several babies that were born alive in his clinic after failed abortions. The deaths he is being charged for represent only a small sample of the deaths which occurred in his clinic. If you are interested in knowing more, search for Dr. Kermit Gosnell, the man ran a house of horrors (among other things, he kept preserved feet from the babies he aborted).

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (1)

Rockoon (1252108) | about 2 years ago | (#43377951)

While on the subject of Planned Parenthood in a discussion of "hate speech" and "genocide", the racial breakdown of aborted fetuses in America is appalling, and in fact the number of Blacks killed by abortion in America outnumber all other causes of death combined. Hispanics arent far behind in these statistics.

I don't want to turn this into a "Planned Parenthood is racist" discussion, because that speaks to motives and I don't think motives matter. The end result matters, and its a fucking holocaust.

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (1)

ohnocitizen (1951674) | about 2 years ago | (#43376797)

Why is this marked insightful?

For an example of what I'm talking about, look at the Southern Poverty Law Center's pronouncements - including especially their advice to law enforcement and the Department of Homeland Security that displaying bumper stickers supporting Ron Paul during the presidential primary, or any of a number of other pro-Constitution or Tea Party political position messages, was a sign that the driver was a terrorist.

Let's see, upset at SPLC? Wonder why that is... [cnn.com]

As far as designating drivers with Ron Paul stickers as terrorists, you are most likely confusing that (deliberately or not) with their investigations into and reporting on right wing hate groups [splcenter.org] that planned or carried out attacks. Like this one [splcenter.org] . I mean, if we are talking about militia groups, patriot movement groups, and sovereign citizens, we are talking about groups that have attacked or planned to attack police officers [latimes.com] .

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (1)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | about 2 years ago | (#43377725)

You forgot to mention the guy who attempted to go on a murder spree at various organizations designated by the SPLC as "hate groups".

Re:Mostly false positives, will be used for "hate" (3, Insightful)

sg_oneill (159032) | about 2 years ago | (#43377211)

Yeah dude. Political scientists don't think like that and tend to be fairly serious minded men. If activists are putting in bogus data, its going to stick out like a sore thumb.

This seems to be more like some of the research google was doing spotting emerging trends via language use.

Go read the stuff about the 8 stage genocide model and specifically on the 'symbolization' phase. I suspect its more about looking for trends like where a population for instance stops saying "jews" and starts saying "kikes" or whatever, whith the observation that a population is heading towards the crucial dehumanization phase needed to allow people to sleep at night whilst committing genocide.

Good idea (3, Insightful)

AlphaWolf_HK (692722) | about 2 years ago | (#43376479)

Now instead of just laws requiring data retention to prevent child pornography, we can now also use genocide prevention as an excuse. And then of course just use it to go after copyright infringers.

If you want to learn about genocide speech, go to stormfront.org, there's no need to build a new database when somebody has already created one for you.

Re:Good idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376547)

shh, shut up about stormfront, otherwise they will come with their crappy copy paste.

Re:Good idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376583)

Fuck that noise. Bring 'em on.

Re:Good idea (3, Insightful)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | about 2 years ago | (#43377291)

Correct, genocidal tendencies are not difficult to spot. For one thing a large segment of the population is regularly talking about killing, imprisoning or deporting a smaller segment of the population. Genocide by its nature requires the involvement of lots and lots of people, and they won't be shy about giving you their opinion. For example pre world war 2 Germany was riddled with anti-semitism, that's a hazardous situation. It's not something that appears from a vacuum nor a spontaneous event.

I'd be very wary of this initiative as another effort to water down terms which describe truly horrendous crimes by assigning them to lesser actions, like the incessant use of 'rape' by hardline misandrists.

Re:Good idea (3, Insightful)

Alsee (515537) | about 2 years ago | (#43377667)

Actually stormfront.org is valuable as a huge negative data point.

The purpose of their project, as I understand it, is to detect when a population is in the early stages of an actual developing genocide situation. Stormfront.org is a sample of the sort of speech that occurs in a group which is grossly failing to to get anywhere. The stormfronters have all sorts of grand fantasies of what they want and believe, but at least on some level they know damn well that they don't have general public support for it. Stormfront.org's rhetoric is filled with an attitude that they are persecuted victims, the feel frustrated and powerless. I expect that is about the last thing you'd find in a genuine developing genocide situation. In a genuine genocide situation the hate speech agitators are not feeling powerless - they are feeling supported and powerful and emboldened... that they can boldly go out there without hiding their intent, without fear or shame, to seize control, to just plain engage in flagrant public violence.

The stormfronters feel like powerless victims. They may sneak around in the dark and commit pointless vandalism like spiteful children, but they are not anywhere in the same universe as a situation where people go out in broad daylight committing mass violence and inviting their police-buddies to come along with their cop-cars and heavy weapon supplies.


A precursor to genocide? (1)

Mr. Firewall (578517) | about 2 years ago | (#43376487)

So... they will immediately run smack-dab into Godwin's Law... ... and, picoseconds later, cease to be relevant!

Re:A precursor to genocide? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376495)

How many picohitlers is that?

Re:A precursor to genocide? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377155)

How many picohitlers is that?

3 1/2

Subset of Urban Dictionary (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376503)

Sounds like a subset of Urban Dictionary, with all the same problems. Two of my co-workers made up a word once to rag on a 3rd guy. I checked not that long ago. Yep, still there, LOL. That was like 6 years ago.

Precursors? (2)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 2 years ago | (#43376507)


Re:Precursors? (1)

BradleyUffner (103496) | about 2 years ago | (#43376525)


I think it's more for detecting genocide before it has official been discovered.
My guess is that it will key in on "Help, some guys just killed everyone in my village" posts from twitter.

hate the hatebase (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376513)

I hate the makers of hatebase. Why, I could just chop them into little pieces and eat them.

Get it? I made a joke comment so their system would see it... wait, someone's at the door...

Isn't that... (1)

longbot (789962) | about 2 years ago | (#43376521)

...the name of the Dalek mainframe?

Thought crime (3, Insightful)

ildon (413912) | about 2 years ago | (#43376533)

Sweet. We finally reached the point where we're just looking for thought crimes.

Re:Thought crime (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377031)

These aren't thought crimes, these are indicators that there might be genocide in progress or on the way.

Nobody would be prosecuted for the messages, they would potentially be prosecuted for actual acts of genocide. This is just a way of helping to get eyes on the situation _before_ something happens rather than after it has begun.

Re:Thought crime (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377205)

This is just a way of helping to get eyes on the situation _before_ something happens rather than after it has begun.

Oh, I get it now. So it's Minority Report, not 1984. That makes me feel so much better.

Control and monitor of free speech (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377791)

Look at the database, it's defining racial slurs as genocide indicators. i.e. Thought crimes.

When genocides occur, it's usually completely known about. They Hutus / Tutsis was known, happening, documented and we did pretty much nothing. Syria now, we know about and have not yet done anything.

Perversely the slow motion genocide that Israel performs against Palestine, the first thing they do when the west objects is to wheel out any remaining survivors of the second world war genocide for a tour. Attempting to use the pity for the genocide victims, as cover.... for genocide. Very bizarre.

I don't want to go back to the time when we couldn't criticize the appalling actions of Israel, lest you be accused of anti-semitism and have them trot out the Holocaust as justification as to why you should be silenced.... i.e. give Israel cover for its hate crimes.

I see this project is trying to hijack George Clooneys satellite genocide project, which seeks to spot mass graves in war zones to see if a genocide is in progress. That is far more useful. This looks like a trap to define speech as hate crime and thus permit controlling and monitoring of speech.


Guns (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376543)

This is an easy one. Just look for people that are not pro-safety and anti-gun. Anyone that wants one of those things is pro-murder. Maybe they're not all-out pro-genocide like an NRA or the Nazi party, but they at least are pro-murder.

Re:Guns (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376657)

It's no longer "gun control", it's "massacre control". And if you're not for it, you're against it. If only we could kill all the pro-massacre people left in America.

If you call it ethnic cleansing then it's not bad (1)

elucido (870205) | about 2 years ago | (#43376555)

It's only bad when it's called genocide.

Re:If you call it ethnic cleansing then it's not b (1)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | about 2 years ago | (#43376601)

If you think "ethnic cleansing" sounds good, then you probably work for Marketing.

I'll contribute (4, Funny)

srussia (884021) | about 2 years ago | (#43376573)

From hatebase.org:

"Language-based classification, or symbolization, is one of a handful of quantifiable steps toward genocide.
To support Hatebase, please contribute to our database, either by adding vocabulary or by logging sightings and citations.

My submission:

Language: Beltwayspeak
Vocabulary: "senior operational leader", "enemy belligerent", "imminent threat", "organized armed groups"
Source: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/020413_DOJ_White_Paper.pdf [msn.com]

Re:I'll contribute (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376695)

Seriously, is this system something could be loaded with enough false positives to be rendered useless?

Re:I'll contribute (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377049)

Are you serious?

I'd ask "is there any known scientific method and algorithm by which this could possibly work"?

Bayes' Theorem? Oh, right.

China-Friendly (5, Interesting)

caiocaiocaio (2883871) | about 2 years ago | (#43376579)

1) They are missing most Chinese-language racial slurs, and are apparently not searching for Chinese characters. I think the results would be predominantly Chinese otherwise. I mean, how could they miss "waiguolao"? In China, hearing that word was my red flag to get indoors or to a cop as soon as possible. 2) I could find you literally thousands of websites calling for genocide in China (either against resident minority groups or towards immigrants in China) which don't use any ethnic slurs. Most of the ethnic slurs in China are condescending more than hateful (except those directed at the Japanese), and using more neutral terminology gives pro-genocide Chinese an air of legitimacy. I can remember when "nanlaowai", for example, was quite a popular blog, but their didn't use any racial slurs in spite of the constant demands for the ethnic purification of China. Chalk it up to cultural difference I guess.

Re:China-Friendly (2)

phantomfive (622387) | about 2 years ago | (#43376923)

I'm not sure how you can expect to get anything from a crowdsourced database. What they are creating is like UrbanDictionary.com The guy doing it, Christopher Tuckwood, apparently studied Disaster and Emergency Management at York University. This is how he talks:

"Our intention with Hatebase was for the data to be used as a contextual layer on top of other monitoring datasets and infrastructure. It's essentially acting as a sort of Z-axis"

I'm not even sure he knows what he just said there.

Re:China-Friendly (1)

SplashMyBandit (1543257) | about 2 years ago | (#43377067)

Very, very interesting. Thanks for sharing some facts.

Re:China-Friendly (2)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | about 2 years ago | (#43377085)

You've actually been to China and you claim this?

Protip: You are unbelievably clueless.

"waiguolao" means literally "foreign elder" (wai out(side), foreign: guo country; lao old, aged, elder). "wailao" is also common.

It is considered an informal but fairly respectful way to address people who don't look like they're Chinese, and is generally not considered pejorative. Yes, it could be used in an insulting manner in the right context, but this is true of many words in English and other languages I speak. And even words that are normally considered insults can be used in a positive or even admiring fashion, e.g. Patton's "Rommel, you magnificent bastard--I read your book! [wikipedia.org] "

Sure, there's racism in China. China is a fine country but like all the others I've been to, it has a few idiots here and there. I treat it there like I treat it everywhere else I encounter it--with the utter disdain it so completely and richly deserves.

Protip #2: It REALLY helps if you can use chopsticks better than your Chinese girlfriend can (and with either hand, to boot). :D

Re:China-Friendly (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377635)

I think caiocaiocaio is just retarded and has no idea how the language works.

Another victory for racism again!

No, you're clueless (4, Informative)

Su27K (652607) | about 2 years ago | (#43377821)

"waiguolao" definitely has a negative tone to it, and no it cannot be interpreted as "foreign elder". "waiguo" is "foreign country", you got this correct; but here "lao" is not the same Chinese character for "old/elder", it has ren (person) radical and it's a slur for a group of people. I think you confused it with "laowai", which is considered a neutral word to describe a foreigner by Chinese but not so much by the foreigners themselves.

Re:China-Friendly (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377171)

apparently not searching for Chinese characters

They're not even allowed. In a time when most of the web has switched over to Unicode this is an unbelievable oversight.
From the FAQ [hatebase.org] :

Why doesn't submitted vocabulary retain any accented characters?
Hatebase is a multilingual platform and accepts all UTF-8 characters (including accented characters), but "latinizes" the main vocabulary field to optimize search performance.
If you're adding a term with an accent, simply repeat the term somewhere in the "meaning" field, which isn't latinized.

Why doesn't Hatebase accept non-UTF8 characters?
At present, Hatebase is architected to display UTF-8 characters only -- basically, the extended Latin alphabet, including accented characters. Further extending Hatebase to logographic character sets is certainly on our roadmap, but may not happen anytime soon unless we hear from our users that it's strongly desired.

So according to them Chinese characters cannot be encoded in UTF-8? And entries in non-Latin alphabets are excluded from a multilingual database? These people don't know what they're doing.

shiT!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376591)

heh. (2)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 2 years ago | (#43376609)

I read that as "hatebook".

Where you 'enemy' people instead of 'friend' them...

Re:heh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377227)

Where you 'enemy' people instead of 'friend' them..

I thought that was /.

Minority Report! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376715)

Slashdot'll hate this, right? ... right?

Re:Minority Report! (2)

phantomfive (622387) | about 2 years ago | (#43376929)

The problem with Minority Report is they were arresting them without knowing if they actually would have committed the crime or not. Getting upset over arrests of innocent people isn't a slashdot thing, it's a world thing.

Statistical power? (2)

tgv (254536) | about 2 years ago | (#43376847)

This sounds a bit off to me. Statistical NLP needs large amounts of data. How many data points do they have that can reliably be labelled "precursor of genocide" vs "no precursor of genocide"? There haven't been that many genocides, is it? And as the article says: "hate speech isn't in short supply"...

"The 8 stages of Genocide" (4, Insightful)

nomad-9 (1423689) | about 2 years ago | (#43376865)

Just read the part about the 8 stages of genocide of this so-called "Genocide Watch" ( http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutgenocide/8stagesofgenocide.html [genocidewatch.org] )

Unfortunately they focus mainly on religious and ethnic hatred, which doesn't really account for some of the biggest genocides of the 20th century like in Pol Pot's Cambodia, Stalin's USSR and Mao's China, They do mention Pol Pot a couple of times, for the "blue ribbon" symbolism and the "Denial" stage, but miss the root of the problem. Their view is shallow at best, IMO.

It is fashionable to focus almost exclusively on race, religion and nationalism, but ironically, the biggest killings in the past century came from ideologies aiming to unite mankind beyond those "hate" barriers.

"Genocide Watch" would have probably missed those "early stages" of Communism...

Re:"The 8 stages of Genocide" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377921)

Sure, you could redefine "genocide" to mean: times when lots of people died that I can blame on ideologies and/or groups of people that I don't happen to like. But the point of the current definition is that most people should be able to agree that it's not something that should ever be done intentionally - as opposed to debates about lots of people starving to death as an unintended consequence of particular political/economic policies.

no data for big data (4, Insightful)

stenvar (2789879) | about 2 years ago | (#43376867)

The basis for this appears to be pure speculation. There is no actual data (big or otherwise) showing the validity of the assumptions on which this is based.

New ammunition for political correct do-gooders? (4, Insightful)

Takatata (2864109) | about 2 years ago | (#43376869)

Always looking for new ways to feel morally superior and lecture others. 'You don't say this', 'you don't say that'. Everyone says that? No negative connotation? Who cares? We say it is discriminating and if you don't follow us, you are a racist. Fortunately those cannot read thoughts, else they would tell you what to think and what not to think.

Top match (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376883)

"Upgrading to Windows 8"

Recursion in one easy step: (2)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about 2 years ago | (#43376925)

Eradicate ALL those with precursors for perpetrating Genocide!

Genoside? (2)

maliqua (1316471) | about 2 years ago | (#43376927)

Precursors to genocide. hyperbole much? "Timmys blog sure is strange, seems like he might be on the road to wiping out an entire race of people"

Bad Jews (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43376937)

Bad Jews are what first cause genocide. Get yer Jews in-line and no genocide.

I'm surprised nobody's said (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377015)

"Let's stick it on the hatabase".

How to (3, Interesting)

chaos_technique (1191999) | about 2 years ago | (#43377161)

Filling the search field with a | (pipe) will give you the full listing of their "base".

Ha, only 729 ethnic or national slurs?

Come on, even I could do better than that :-)

The programming seems interesting too: non ascii characters in the Search box will break the site.

In that case... (2)

CdBee (742846) | about 2 years ago | (#43377419)

I wonder if there is any hate term that includes the phrase " DROP TABLE Submissions;-- " .....

Abstraction and meanings attached.. (1)

3seas (184403) | about 2 years ago | (#43377445)

Ever hear of double speak or triple speak?

Any career politician will know it well. Well enough to avoid hate speech while committing genocide.
How many Iraqi Citizens where victims of "Collateral damage" and what speak was attached to the top command of that happening?

Hate speech data base? Its called "The other dictionary" when you realize abstract words can have meanings attached not in the standard dictionaries

Like the genocide of white people? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377459)

Is that "hate" speech? LOL.

How about the FORCING of white people to accept millions of non-whites into their countries every year, isn't that "hate"? LOL.

The JEWS are behind the open borders of ALL white nations on earth - MOST white people simply want to live in their own countries, with their OWN race.

What a crime! Where will the poor, hard done by Jews go then? They might have to actually do manual labour, and we can't have that, can we!

I love precrime! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377519)

I was going to type a thoughtful response but really I'm just going to tell 4chan and watch the fireworks.

So anyway (2)

Dunbal (464142) | about 2 years ago | (#43377565)

While precursors of genocide may have been detected in some of my posts, I submit that careful measurements of the skulls of the hatebase designers reveal that they are pathological liars, according to the long established science of phrenology.

You could use /. trolls to get started (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377703)

on your hatebase (duck ;-)

Hate speech is most important to protect! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#43377723)

Freedom of speech is about the ability to say the things that nobody wants to hear. You don't have to like what they are saying, but you should respect their right to say it. It's only a matter of time before somebody dislikes what YOU are saying.

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