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Irish Politician Calls For Crackdown On Open Source Internet Browsers

Soulskill posted about 6 months ago | from the internet-is-a-series-of-tubes dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "An Irish politician has called for tougher controls on the use of open source internet browsers. He said, 'An online black market is operating which protects the users’ anonymity and operates across borders through the use of open source internet browsers and payments systems which allow users to remain anonymous. This effectively operates as an online supermarket for illegal goods such as drugs, weapons and pornography, where it is extremely difficult to trace the identity of the buyers. We need a national and international response to clamp down on this illicit trade.' The politician added that the U.S. had 'taken action' to address this, but he seemed surprised that their solution was only 'temporary.'"

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335 comments

Hurray! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959071)

My really first post here! Hurray!

Too Bad (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959185)

And you wasted it!

As wasted as that idiotic Irish luddite (5, Funny)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | about 6 months ago | (#45959633)

... and the fact that that idiotic Irish luddite can be elected as a politician says a lot about those who voted for him !!

Re:Hurray! (0, Redundant)

s.petry (762400) | about 6 months ago | (#45959561)

_YOU_ don't have a first post when you are anonymous you moron, "Anonymous Coward" gets the first post. Not only were you wrong about being first, you were wrong about who gets credit for the first post! If you did not forget some medication today you may want to see a doctor and get a new prescription.

Re:Hurray! (5, Funny)

ls671 (1122017) | about 6 months ago | (#45959777)

What is that "Senior System Engineer/Architect" thing doing in a slashdot sig?

Furthermore, your sig says: "Notice: If you post anonymously do not expect a reply" and you just replied to an anon!

You seem to have problems following basic algorithms which is questionable for a " Senior System Engineer/Architect".

Take care nevertheless man ;-)
--
Senior master/architect of the universe

Shut up drinky (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959075)

Posting as ac because I am both Irish and drunk, I forgot my password

Re:Shut up drinky (1, Funny)

Narcocide (102829) | about 6 months ago | (#45959233)

You also forgot to make a point.

Re:Shut up drinky (4, Funny)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about 6 months ago | (#45959331)

That was implied

because I am both Irish...

Re:Shut up drinky (4, Funny)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 6 months ago | (#45959691)

If the rumors are true, and the Irish would rule the World if not for alcohol,

well,

I'll drink to that.

Re:Shut up drinky (5, Funny)

grcumb (781340) | about 6 months ago | (#45959717)

A Fine Gael TD named Patrick
Vied for the cluelessness hat trick:
He blamed anonymity
For people's affinity
To gambling, drugs and well-stacked chicks.

He represents Limerick, for Christ's sake. He had it coming.

Dumb mick (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959085)

Don't you have some potatoes to save?

I think I speak for us all... (5, Funny)

Kenja (541830) | about 6 months ago | (#45959109)

I think I speak for all people who know much of anything about computers when I ask, "what?".

Re:I think I speak for us all... (4, Interesting)

iYk6 (1425255) | about 6 months ago | (#45959177)

He starts by condeming browsers and proxies that help people browse the internet anonymously. Then he jumps to saying that anonymous browsing leads to trading drugs, weapons, and pornography. Then he commends the USA NSA for spying on Americans but is concerned that now that they have been caught Americans might do something about it.

Re:I think I speak for us all... (5, Insightful)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 6 months ago | (#45959197)

"He starts by condeming browsers and proxies that help people browse the internet anonymously. Then he jumps to saying that anonymous browsing leads to trading drugs, weapons, and pornography. Then he commends the USA NSA for spying on Americans but is concerned that now that they have been caught Americans might do something about it."

Seems to me there was something else I heard about that was anonymous, and can be traded for all kinds of illegal things.

Oh, yeah. I remember now: cash.

Re:I think I speak for us all... (1)

Narcocide (102829) | about 6 months ago | (#45959265)

Shh!!! Don't let them know our secret!!! They'll just make cash illegal too!

Re:I think I speak for us all... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959393)

You mean they haven't yet?

See United States v. $124,700 in U.S. Currency. [wikipedia.org]

Re:I think I speak for us all... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959467)

That is both hilarious and depressing.

Re:I think I speak for us all... (3, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | about 6 months ago | (#45959793)

Shh!!! Don't let them know our secret!!! They'll just make cash illegal too!

I think the batteries are running low in your Euros, I'm having difficulty tracking you.

Tor Browser Bundle; Dogecoin is so cash (4, Interesting)

tepples (727027) | about 6 months ago | (#45959195)

There are web browsers based on the work of the Firefox and Chromium open source projects that allow browsing a parallel web with enough anonymity that users feel safe using it to trade in prohibited weapons, prohibited drugs, and prohibited sexually explicit works. One of them is the Tor Browser Bundle. And I think the "payment system" part refers to Bitcoin and the other coins that vary in the exact proof-of-work problem, such as Namecoin (Bitcoin with a parallel DNS tacked on), Litecoin (Bitcoin with Tarsnap's Scrypt hash), and Dogecoin (very Litecoin, much meme, so cash, wow).

Re:Tor Browser Bundle; Dogecoin is so cash (-1)

mythosaz (572040) | about 6 months ago | (#45959301)

Dogecoin (very Litecoin, much meme, so cash, wow).

I'm currently devoting nearly all of my hate to Doge. It might be the worst thing the internet has done in a long, long time.

Re:Tor Browser Bundle; Dogecoin is so cash (4, Funny)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | about 6 months ago | (#45959537)

I'm currently devoting nearly all of my hate to Doge. It might be the worst thing the internet has done in a long, long time.

wow, no love, much sad

Re:Tor Browser Bundle; Dogecoin is so cash (2)

hodet (620484) | about 6 months ago | (#45959607)

Much hash, so fashion, wow! :-P

Re:I think I speak for us all... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959289)

I think I speak for all Irish people when I say: "well fuck, not again"

Re:I think I speak for us all... (4, Funny)

Bite The Pillow (3087109) | about 6 months ago | (#45959319)

Clearly IE, the popular closed source browser, ,is against anonymity. Who knows this for sure, the country with the code .ie - I feel dumb for not knowing earlier.

Re:I think I speak for us all... (4, Funny)

hodet (620484) | about 6 months ago | (#45959469)

Ya. Ow... The stupid, it burns!

Re:I think I speak for us all... (1)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | about 6 months ago | (#45959501)

Irish Ted Stevens. Needs more tubes.

Fixed that for you (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959627)

Needs more tubes.

Needs more tubesteak. As in a whole bag of them to eat.

Re:I think I speak for us all... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959517)

I think I speak for all people who know much of anything about computers when I ask, "what?".

I think this politician has been smoking too much open source.

I think I speak for all of us Irishmen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959599)

...And that is Patrick O'Donovan can go eat a bag of dicks.

Re:I think I speak for us all... (1)

Mister Liberty (769145) | about 6 months ago | (#45959639)

Wasn't there some link Ireland - Microsoft?

Re:I think I speak for us all... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959711)

I think I speak for all people who know much of anything about computers when I ask, "what?".

I think this idiot is actually talking about Bitcoin and the silk road.

Not interesting (5, Insightful)

jbmartin6 (1232050) | about 6 months ago | (#45959111)

Call me when a bill to this effect has some chance of passing, otherwise I am not interested. There is no idea so dumb or ill-informed that there isn't going to be some politician, somewhere, proposing it. That doesn't mean anyone else in that legislature takes it seriously, possibly even the proposer isn't serious and is just mouthing off for political reasons. This just isn't worth anyone's time to read about.

Re:Not interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959191)

I agree with you completely.

BUT someone will respond with counterexamples about Net Neutrality, etc in 3... 2... 1...

Re:Not interesting (1)

jonbryce (703250) | about 6 months ago | (#45959285)

And in any case, such a bill would have to go through the EU parliament, not the Irish one.

Re:Not interesting (4, Insightful)

Jaywalk (94910) | about 6 months ago | (#45959491)

There is no idea so dumb or ill-informed that there isn't going to be some politician, somewhere, proposing it

True, and yet the exceptional examples need to be discussed in order for them to exposed to the hoots of derision and mockery which they so richly deserved. I doubt they will learn anything from it since their cranial capacity seems to be, thus far, impervious to analytical thought, but it makes the rest of us feel better.

Let the mockery resume.

Crackdown on the browsers or the market? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959125)

It sounds like he's talking about Tor and/or Silk Road.

It's hard to tell from the article whether he's advocating a crackdown on browsers and Tor, or the criminal activity.

If it's just the criminal activity then he's being sensible, otherwise he's being obtuse.

Huh? (2)

bbroerman (715822) | about 6 months ago | (#45959131)

Obviously, this person has no clue as to how the internet, or software works...

Re:Huh? (1)

phantomfive (622387) | about 6 months ago | (#45959707)

Yeah, wait until he discovers IRC.

Or telnet.

What is this guy mumbling about? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959133)

Talk about someone who has no idea what he is talking about? Man, I half expected him to talk about the internet tubes.

Simple Solution ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959135)

He's fairly ignorant, I think someone should Tweet to him that all law enforcement have to do to stop illegal activity is to set the "evil bit" to ON.

Re:Simple Solution ... (1)

game kid (805301) | about 6 months ago | (#45959287)

Don't be so hard on poor O'Donovan. I don't know how to get those newfangled "Tweat" things on Prodigy or CompuServe either.

Re:Simple Solution ... (1)

anagama (611277) | about 6 months ago | (#45959297)

You'll have to find a piece of paper, a pen, an envelope, and a stamp. Tweeting won't work here.

WTF (5, Interesting)

MrEricSir (398214) | about 6 months ago | (#45959139)

Seems like this rather confused politician is confusing Firefox with Tor. And I bet if he knew who was funding Tor, his head would explode.

Re:WTF (1)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | about 6 months ago | (#45959189)

He's definitely confused about something, with statements like this:

Law enforcement agencies in the United States have recently taken action to address this issue, however it appears the solution was temporary as replacement browsers quickly appeared to ensure the continuance of the illegal trade.

He seems to think the US agencies seized some sort of browser or something. Assuming he's just confused about terminology, he's apparently seeking some sort of international ban on certain kinds of websites that are accessible via Tor, or a ban on Tor itself. Good luck with that.

Re:WTF (1)

hodet (620484) | about 6 months ago | (#45959585)

Ya he is saying the feds shut down 'silk road' (a browser) and then silk road 2 (another browser?) popped up (and subsequently closed). Comedy gold I tell you.

Firefox with Tor (3)

tepples (727027) | about 6 months ago | (#45959259)

confusing Firefox with Tor

I don't see how Firefox with Tor [torproject.org] is so confusing.

Re:Firefox with Tor (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959731)

Firefox can be combined with Tor, but that's a conscious decision by the user and not bundled with regular Firefox. Hence his statements don't hold any real merit since he focuses on "open source browsers" which we would reasonably assume to mean things like Firefox.

Heck, I'm sure you can also merge Tor with Internet Explorer if you were silly enough. Does that mean proprietary browsers are also a threat?

Re:WTF (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959435)

In case any one is wondering. DARPA and the US Navy are two of the founders.
https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors.html.en

Re:WTF (4, Interesting)

LWATCDR (28044) | about 6 months ago | (#45959511)

Most people are not technically knowledgeable. I fear that things will keep getting more and more silly as the human race gets more and specialized. In the 1700s is was possible to be pretty knowledgeable about all the technology of the day. Today it just isn't. You can see an example of that here on slashdot when talking about spaceflight or battery technology and some idiot makes a reference to Moore's Law.

Re:WTF (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959787)

And I bet if he knew who was funding Tor, his head would explode.

Please: TELL HIM.

Damn those anonymous evildoers (3, Insightful)

PaddyM (45763) | about 6 months ago | (#45959141)

The only people who deserve no taxes in Ireland are those multinationals with accountants who drink a double Irish coffee with their Dutch sandwich.

Leave it to a politician to blow hot air (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959151)

Are there any browsers produced in Ireland that such a policy would affect?

Re:Leave it to a politician to blow hot air (3, Informative)

jonbryce (703250) | about 6 months ago | (#45959335)

Microsoft, Google and Apple all have their European bases in Ireland. Firefox has its European base in the UK, and Opera is based in Norway.

Wow. (2)

rogoshen1 (2922505) | about 6 months ago | (#45959155)

Seriously? I really can't tell if this is a politician trolling, or if it's the Onion.. OR for the love of god, any politician anywhere really feels this way? Ireland, if this is true -- you have my sympathies, apparently our idiocy and surveillance state mentality jumped the containment barrier (i'm in the US) :(

How in the heck did the idea of 'privacy' which, used to be one of the tenets of western civilization become something that our elected leaders (who are supposed to be on OUR side) actively try to quash? What is wrong with that picture. Did we learn nothing from the USSR and the Iron Curtain?

Re:Wow. (1)

Sperbels (1008585) | about 6 months ago | (#45959281)

Did we learn nothing from the USSR and the Iron Curtain?

Mentally reviewing the last decade has led me to conclude...no.

Re:Wow. (5, Insightful)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 6 months ago | (#45959357)

Did we learn nothing from the USSR and the Iron Curtain?

Yes. We learned how to do it better.

Re:Wow. (1)

mythosaz (572040) | about 6 months ago | (#45959375)

He's just under/mis-informed about his choice of technologies.

He's afraid that using anonymous web technologies leads to bad things -- and to be fair, users of Tor are essentially divided into the paranoid, the pedos, and the paranoid pedos. Blame the early adopters for quickly figuring out that an anonymous web is a great place to sell drugs, guns and children... ...and host Linux ISOs or something.

I can't tell you what "most" anonymous web-surfers do. I can only tell you the part of it that makes the news.

Dodgy. (1)

scum-e-bag (211846) | about 6 months ago | (#45959157)

It's only the buyers that he wants to track?
Does he want to know who is customers or competitors are?

Shut the fuck up (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959169)

Ireland is always doing stupid crap like this, focus on the immediate, never on the overall. Shut up, sit down, and go back to your last-clap contests that you pretend you don't have.

What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959171)

I think the subject says it all. What a maniac. Does he know that most web servers are open source? does he know what open source means? Is he able to tie his own shoes?

Politicians like these (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959175)

should have been hanging from a lampost next to Mussolini 70+ years ago.

Who let this guy on a computer? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959205)

This just goes to show how people who know nothing about computers shouldn't be in a position to make public statements about them. I mean, while we're at it, why don't we ban cars from driving on the road just so that bank robbers can't use them as getaway vehicles?

Re:Who let this guy on a computer? (1)

blackest_k (761565) | about 6 months ago | (#45959497)

Have you seen the state of Irelands roads?

Yup... (1)

101percent (589072) | about 6 months ago | (#45959215)

Yeah you shouldn't be held accountable for every cent. The US government on the other hand cannot account for trillions and that's justifiable.

Internet Users call for Crack Down on Stupidity (3, Insightful)

Gavrielkay (1819320) | about 6 months ago | (#45959227)

I mean, if we can complain about things that are going to bring the world down around our ears, surely stupidity outranks firefox.

Good luck with that, King Canute (5, Insightful)

sandbagger (654585) | about 6 months ago | (#45959249)

Let us know how that works out.

I agree with the people above, it sounds like he's confusing Tor and Firefox. For my part, I'm a member of an on-line community and am dealing with their 64-year-old admin who refuses to let anyone post live links in the discussion forum because "it's a security risk" and won't allow any images, or media. She's wondering why this little web community is dying.

You sometimes need to keep old people away from the keyboard.

Re:Good luck with that, King Canute (5, Informative)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | about 6 months ago | (#45959655)

You sometimes need to keep old people away from the keyboard.

Patrick O'Donovan, the politician in question, is 36 years old. My father is a 70-year-old web developer. Sure, in general younger people probably understand the internet better than older people, but there are so many exceptions to this in both directions that any generalization based on age is pretty well meaningless.

Re:Good luck with that, King Canute (2)

melikamp (631205) | about 6 months ago | (#45959741)

Oh, he understands everything. He just hates that people are free to express themselves in ways not approved by the ruling elite.

News News News (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959251)

"All transactions and exchanges in the universe should be monitored and documented." *
"All people* should be identifiable, traceable, and cataloged at all times."

Besides being impossible, this shit is insulting. As usual, you can substitute the word "cash" or "gold" in. The only difference is this time we're speechless because the idiot thinks browsers are the problem.

*prole class

Re:News News News (1)

tepples (727027) | about 6 months ago | (#45959589)

As usual, you can substitute the word "cash" or "gold" in.

Cash and gold take a lot longer to send from one continent to another than Bitcoin.

Taken action? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959273)

What "action" has the "U.S." "taken", specifically?

This reminds me of when... (5, Interesting)

TsuruchiBrian (2731979) | about 6 months ago | (#45959277)

This reminds me of when Senator Orin hatch wanted to develop technology to destroy peoples computers if they were caught downloading anything that was copyrighted.

I actually witnessed this exchange live on C-SPAN.

Excerpt from an article that's no longer up:

"No one is interested in destroying anyone's computer," replied Randy Saaf of MediaDefender Inc., a secretive Los Angeles company that builds technology to deliberately download pirated material very slowly so other users can't.

"I'm interested," Hatch interrupted. He said damaging someone's computer "may be the only way you can teach somebody about copyrights."

The senator, a composer who earned $18,000 last year in song-writing royalties, acknowledged Congress would have to enact an exemption for copyright owners from liability for damaging computers. He endorsed technology that would twice warn a computer user about illegal online behavior, "then destroy their computer."

"If we can find some way to do this without destroying their machines, we'd be interested in hearing about that," Hatch said. "If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines. If you have a few hundred thousand of those, I think people would realize" the seriousness of their actions.

"There's no excuse for anyone violating copyright laws," Hatch said.

Re:This reminds me of when... (1)

TsuruchiBrian (2731979) | about 6 months ago | (#45959329)

Also I am pretty sure I saw him say he wanted to make CD burners illegal because there was no legitimate legal use for them. I could not however find any good sources for this. It was around the same time ~ 2003

Well, is he going to hate the future (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959283)

The NSA snooping revelations have spooked quite a lot of people, including engineers who design protocols. Anonymous browsing will not remain a niche for "paranoid" people - it will become available in mainstream systems.

He's on to us (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959291)

Does this mean that the era of take-away guns, drugs and pornography is over?

But he's not addressing cash...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959293)

"...Seems to me there was something else I heard about that was anonymous, and can be traded for all kinds of illegal things.
Oh, yeah. I remember now: cash...."

He's a politician.

He's already trying to cut down on as much free cash his constituents have as possible...

Anybody check the name of his party? (1)

mugurel (1424497) | about 6 months ago | (#45959309)

Fine Gals. Look who's talking!

What, seriously? (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about 6 months ago | (#45959315)

Someone ask him what his position is on the internet being "a series of tubes".

Wait what? (4, Insightful)

wbr1 (2538558) | about 6 months ago | (#45959333)

Open access roads are used to transport drugs. Open access city streets can hold dealers and prostitutes. Public libraries have been used to read about revolution and bomb making and pot growing.The postal service has been used to facilitate illegal payments. Lets close them all DOWN.
Pro tip, just because it is online, or open source, does not make human nature any different.

Some people will beat their spouse or hire a hitman. Some people will be addicts. Some will sell to the addicts. Some will fondle their niece.

Claiming some tool is enabling these behaviors and ignoring that tool's greater benefit greater benefit to society is either fear-mongering or blind unthinking fear (possibly instilled by other fear mongers). If the former, you are the worst kind of control hungry sociopath to use fear to restrict others. If the latter, you are a puppet and a simpleton. in either case, you do not deserve to be in any position of leadership.

Re:Wait what? (1)

mjwalshe (1680392) | about 6 months ago | (#45959369)

and often used for various smuggling operations across the NI border in bandit country - so dig up all the roads between Eire and NI then

news at 11 - Irish Drunk talks to press (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959337)

Need I say more .

Because Open Source is the Problem (1)

therealprologic (2118298) | about 6 months ago | (#45959363)

Since when did being open and free to all become the problem here?

Good thing Ireland is irrelevant (0)

Gothmolly (148874) | about 6 months ago | (#45959389)

Other than being the burned out husk of a tech quasi-boom, Ireland doesn't really matter. It's the Midwest of the United Kingdom. Even Wales has Torchwood.

Re:Good thing Ireland is irrelevant (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959679)

"Ireland doesn't really matter. It's the Midwest of the United Kingdom"

This guy is an IRISH politician. Your analysis is so fucking clueless I don't really know how I could explain to you that it is wrong without having to first retrofit an upgrade to your central cortex by nailing a stoat's brain to the roof of your skull.

I hope to god you are a troll.

Re:Good thing Ireland is irrelevant (1)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | about 6 months ago | (#45959723)

Ireland doesn't really matter. It's the Midwest of the United Kingdom.
--
Only on Slashdot does an AC get modded Informative for pointing out that the LHC is in Europe.

The combination of your post and your .sig is sadly hilarious.

I wonder if he even realises... (1)

DrXym (126579) | about 6 months ago | (#45959391)

... that nothing he said makes a slightest bit of sense. Literally none at all.

Thanks (1)

willoughby (1367773) | about 6 months ago | (#45959437)

A few times I've heard an Irish use the term "gobshite" and I wasn't sure what it meant 'till today.

Re:Thanks (1)

The_Other_Kelly (44440) | about 6 months ago | (#45959575)

Thank you! Seriously! I was so upset about the stupidity of this, that I overlooked the perfect word to describe them!

Gobshites!

What more can one expect from total Assholes? (5, Insightful)

The_Other_Kelly (44440) | about 6 months ago | (#45959489)

Just when you think that you have grown beyond caring, theses guys manage to poke beneath the shield and hit the "AAAAAARRRGGGHH" button !!
I am sorry for taking this seriously, but after the Bank Bailouts, the corruption, the incompetency, the cover-ups and the sheer fuck-wittery of the past
years, they attack OPEN SOURCE BROWSERS !!

What more can one expect from politicians that:
- kowtow-ed to the EU on the Maastricht Treaty re-Vote, (It puts the lotion in the basket, and votes again and again until the answer is YES)
- sold 3 generations of their own people out, in the form of a bank bailout for *private* non-system critical banks,
- have no concept of Justice whether social, civil or criminal
- have no concept of public probity, of duty or what to be a servant of the people actually means
- assume in blind arrogance that their own short-sighted, small-town, bigoted, religion-ridden, never questioned views are "NORMALITY"
    and those of everyone else, are simply illegal.

In short. Olympic level Assholes.

Winking and smiling and smirking, crapping out their "hokesy/folksy" catchphrases, with constant shit eating grins.

Concepts such as free speech, right to privacy, equal treatment before the law, due process,
womens' rights (especially reproductive rights), ... are considered amusing or just dismissed,
out of hand, by these troglodytes.

For example, the implicit assumption that *all pornography* is simply illegal!

The US and Britain have blanket surveilled every Irish citizen for generations, and this cringing *lackey*
assumes that *law enforcement* was the purpose.

Call me harsh, but I interpret the failure of elected representatives to protect .the rights of their citizens,
in the face of blatant intrusions, as more than incompetence, more than failure.
It is treachery.

Following the usual, endless cycle, whenever social unrest threatens, the Haves in Ireland,
push the Have-nots to emigrate. Since, conveniently, the non-resident cannot vote, there
was, is and will never be any pressure on the ruling elite to change any of their policies ... the opposition is simply disenfranchised.

And nothing changes.

I dream of another Ireland.
A country where an informed electorate hold their elected leaders to account, demand the
definition and enforcement of just laws which protect individual and public rights.
A truly Free Ireland.

Until then, I apologise to the world that we are represented by these fools and that
you have to listen to their blather.

By this logic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959493)

By his logic. We can than claim anything open source must be made illegal, because it might be used in a crime. We are now talking about pre-crime we saw in Minority Report. Were we now are automatically criminals, because we might commit a crime against another person or against the State.

Politician is a rank amature (1)

SpankiMonki (3493987) | about 6 months ago | (#45959519)

He forgot to include the words "pedophiles" and "terrorists" in his call for a crackdown. I would've expected better from an Irishman.

We need to crack down on doormakers too ! (1)

burni2 (1643061) | about 6 months ago | (#45959555)

Because low cost and easy to acquire doors from doormakers (there might even be discount door sellers !) protect children from being seen when they get abused.

Join, the remove all doors movement, we provide you the feeling of being better people, because you can morally pic on others that don't want to declare to you why they love to fuck asses or wear sissy dresses, or just want to be who they are .. unwatched & unsuppressed.

No way it'll happen here in America (2)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 6 months ago | (#45959565)

Our government encourages our assumption of internet anonymity.

It's cheaper than actual freedom, and it makes keeping track of us easy as a cowbell.

Bad logic is bad (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959579)

saying Open Source browsers leads to anon browsing leads to black market deals
just like
iron leads to knives leads to stabbings: obvious conclusion, ban iron, yes?

 

is he sponsored (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959737)

is he sponsored by the NSA or what?!?
i thought being a moron was exclusive to British inbred torry's and american republicans...

There's one born every minute... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959765)

Good to know Florida doesn't have all the crazies. Who's writing this guy's talking points anyway?

identity of the buyers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959775)

surely the sellers of illegal 'stuff' are the people we should find the identity of

Sounds familiar (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#45959813)

Ohh, ignorance of the powerful. Trying to destroy the power of knowledge since the inquisition forced Galileo to acknowledge the earth as the centre of the universe (It happened in the great hall of the convent of Santa Maria sopra Minerva on the 22nd of June, 1633. And mankind still accepts that kind of abuse.

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