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New Facial Recognition Software May Detect Looming Road Rage

timothy posted about 4 months ago | from the this-could-go-horribly-wrong dept.

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cartechboy writes "Well, since we have license plate readers tracking drivers, and GPS breaking down we're you're headed — its probably time for someone to know what mood you're in when you're driving. (Quick hint: often not a good one). Researchers at Switzerland's École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne have prototyped a dashboard camera that tracks facial movements and expressions to read a person's emotions while behind the wheel. The team has partnered with PSA Peugeot Citroën to create a version for actual cars to determine when drivers are angry — and have high potential for road rage. One challenge for the technology has been the wide range of expressions drivers have when they're pissed. Some people smile, for example. (Maybe as they raise their middle finger.) The engineers are working on future revs to be able to tell when drivers are fatigued or even just distracted." The detection part sounds interesting; coupled with remote kill-switches that some government agencies want, and ever deeper fly-by-wire technologies, it's sounds downright dystopian, though.

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Not that much more dystopian... (-1)

jeffb (2.718) (1189693) | about 4 months ago | (#46517601)

...than it is now.

No, you do not have an inalienable right to act out your aggressions on a publicly-funded highway.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46517645)

Increasingly, you don't have any inalienable rights to anything.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (3, Interesting)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 4 months ago | (#46517933)

One day, it will be simply easier, less controversial and more productive to mandate all highway traffic to run on auto-driving mode.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (2)

NatasRevol (731260) | about 4 months ago | (#46518193)

A lot less deadly too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L... [wikipedia.org]

In the US, roughly 100 people per day die in vehicle crashes.

It's only 2 per state! /sarcasm

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 4 months ago | (#46518483)

Well, that's what I meant by "more productive" - i.e., resulting in the greatest possible reduction of accidents and fatalities, if that is the purpose. (Even non-fatal accidents are bad - injuries still hurt, and there's health care expenses and obviously car repair or new car purchase expenses that this could reduce.)

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (1)

NatasRevol (731260) | about 4 months ago | (#46518541)

On the other hand, that's a lot more people our systems have to support.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (3)

sh00z (206503) | about 4 months ago | (#46517705)

...and not dystopian for some. I have a friend who lost a brother who fell asleep at the wheel, crashed and died. Fatigue (or at the least, closed eyes) should be detectable with current technology, and could save lives now.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (3)

TheCarp (96830) | about 4 months ago | (#46517949)

as someone who has gone through periods of some nasty sleep disorders (so much better since I got some treatment), it doesn't really always happen like that. Generally yes, you lay down, close your eyes, THEN sleep. I do too....now.

However an overly fatigued person, like I used to be, doesn't always do this. I have been mostly alseep and slipping into dream....before my eyes were closed.

I shit you not, this is how I almost ended up with a similar crash. I was driving home alone from a party one night. I hadn't been drinking, but I was tired. I was doing a normal highway speed, in the 70s anyway.

What happened in a nutsehll was I fell asleep and drifted to the shoulder. I woke up and turned the car, glancing off the side rail. How much of a glance? Well I didn't slow down, but the ENTIRE side of my car had a long superficial scratch down the side with a few minor dents. So....I was an inch or two from total disaster.

Thing is, my eyes didn't close. I was entering an open eye dream state and then falling off. I know this because of the disassociated way I was thinking at the time. Litterally, my head was tilting to the side and the thought in my head....and I am not being cute here was actually "Oh look, the road is turning sideways, that isn't supposed to happen.". Luckily then I snapped back awake and turned the wheel but.... point being....closed eyes is not necessarily going to do it.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518169)

Yes, people can sleep with their eyes open. The biggest threat is micro-sleeping. You're tired enough that your brain says enough is enough and it shuts down for a moment to multiple seconds. You'll have absolutely no bodily control and normally don't even realized it happened.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518723)

"I shit you not"

Oh, I must be your favorite turd! Thanks for the honor.
(and thanks to "Full Metal Jacket" for the paraphrase)

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (1)

Enfixed (2423494) | about 4 months ago | (#46518221)

The technology already exists and is being used in Mercedes Benz [gizmag.com] and a few other types of cars. Experienced this first hand driving a rental down the Autobahn a few weeks ago, after about an hour of driving my car told me to get some coffee... it was right, I was getting tired.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (1)

jovius (974690) | about 4 months ago | (#46517721)

Probably they settle for the eye tracking. Sensing distraction and sleepiness would prevent a lot of accidents. The car would alarm the driver or gently park by itself.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (4, Funny)

DaveAtFraud (460127) | about 4 months ago | (#46518037)

Probably they settle for the eye tracking. Sensing distraction and sleepiness would prevent a lot of accidents. The car would alarm the driver or gently park by itself.

Something like that (my emphasis in bold) would make it impossible for most guys to get anywhere in a car in most beach cities. Even worse, I can hear my wife now saying, "Would you keep your eyes on the road! We can't get there if the car parks itself every time some eye candy in a bikini is in view."

Cheers,
Dave

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (1)

NatasRevol (731260) | about 4 months ago | (#46518229)

Also, teenagers wouldn't be able to ever leave the driveway.

Not that that would be a bad thing.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518275)

It'll also cause a lot more accidents. People will think they can drive in no matter what physical or mental state they're in so long as the car doesn't complain. You'll get a lot more DUIs ("car said I was ok") and tired drivers ("car thinks I'm awake enough") even on cars that don't have the system ("I thought it was activated").

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (4, Insightful)

TheCarp (96830) | about 4 months ago | (#46517813)

> No, you do not have an inalienable right to act out your aggressions on a publicly-funded highway.

However this doesn't actually look for people acting out, it looks at facial expressions to determine if a person is mad. This may be interesting itself but, I would submit the population of people who get mad while driving is so much larger than those who actually act out their aggression that this is unlikely to be the least bit useful.

This is using the fact that all criminals are found with water in their system as an excuse to monitor people who drink water.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (1)

cayenne8 (626475) | about 4 months ago | (#46518489)

However this doesn't actually look for people acting out, it looks at facial expressions to determine if a person is mad. This may be interesting itself but, I would submit the population of people who get mad while driving is so much larger than those who actually act out their aggression that this is unlikely to be the least bit useful.

They could save a LOT of money on this, no need for fancy eye tracking, etc.

Just have some simple sound recongnition, and list for how many times I yell MotherFucker per minute, and that would be an easy gauge on my mood and opinion of the pinheads driving around me.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (2)

TheCarp (96830) | about 4 months ago | (#46518569)

All that would prove for me, is that I am listening to the news on the radio.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (2)

Cro Magnon (467622) | about 4 months ago | (#46519069)

If it goes by facial expressions, I might not even be mad. Maybe I just have gas.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518211)

You are too fucking retarded for words.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 4 months ago | (#46518327)

that statement is irrelevant red herring to use of this technology

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518361)

No, you do not have an inalienable right to act out your aggressions on a publicly-funded highway.

Straw man. Have you ever heard of "The ends don't justify the means."? As soon as you try to put surveillance equipment in my vehicle that's essentially a black box and remove any control I have over it, you've crossed the line. Freedom and privacy must not be sacrificed for safety, and no, people do not suddenly lose their rights just because they decide to drive on a public road, no matter what you or the government says. No, pretending that rights and privacy aren't being infringed upon won't save you, either.

If you say otherwise, I hope you love the world you've created; a world with free speech zones, DUI checkpoints, organizations like the TSA, anti-hate speech laws, and ubiquitous surveillance. In other words, you hate freedom with every fiber of your being, and are an authoritarian scumbag.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (2)

rogoshen1 (2922505) | about 4 months ago | (#46518737)

not sure if i want to mod up, or comment how right he is :( living in a free society has costs and risk. i'd rather deal with the risks than further ensconse ourselves in bubble-wrap "for our safety"

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518605)

...than it is now.

No, you do not have an inalienable right to act out your aggressions on a publicly-funded highway.

That's your opinion.

Fuck with me on the road and you get what's coming to you.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518697)

Actually, if you remain with in the limits of driving on publicly-funded highways, you do have the right of acting out your aggressions.
--within the driver's licensing rules
--within the insurance requirements
--within the need for a functional vehicle
--within the Speed Limit
--within the Lane Restrictions (HOV, lane markings, etc.)
--within the confines of your vehicle (don't leave the cabin)
Your hopping up and down in the car seat, screaming at other drivers, gesturing at other drivers is strictly permitted. Otherwise, all the people singing along with virtually any music could be arrested for road rage.

Re:Not that much more dystopian... (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 4 months ago | (#46518919)

"No, you do not have an inalienable right to act out your aggressions on a publicly-funded highway."

That's certainly true. But I think we'd be better off treating the cause, rather than the symptoms. I might not have a right to "act out aggressions" on the highway. But you don't have a right to drive like an asshole and piss off everybody around you, either.

More uses for electrical tape. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46517607)

First the webcam on the laptop, next the dashcam on the hoopty. Do not want.

angry nerds (1, Funny)

minstrelmike (1602771) | about 4 months ago | (#46517631)

Man, technology that tells me how to be gets me so angry I'd probably rip the damn iPhone out its socket and throw it out the window.
And that actually would settle me back down.
At least until I got a ticket for littering.

Re:angry nerds (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 4 months ago | (#46517907)

And you thought the MS Paperclip pissed you off!

Death Metal sing-along? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46517653)

I presume if someone is listening to death-metal music his expression could look angry. Sure, kill his engine...

And how are they going to ensure that power steering and brakes still operate without the engine running? Woopsie.

Music Discrimination (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46517659)

Great, now they're going to use a road rage kill-switch on my vehicle just because I want to sing along with my Scandinavian heavy metal. And those women with natural angry b***h faces will never get anywhere...

waste of time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46517669)

what about people who have religious head coverings?

what about false positives?

whats being done once they have determined the person behind the wheel is feeling a little ragey? what happens if they are having a bad day before they get in the car?

why dont they just work on self driving cars to eliminate the problem rather than address the symptoms of the problem?

Re:waste of time (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46517723)

I wonder if this technology could be paired with facial recognition algorithms against the list of outstanding sex offenders and DUI offenders from law enforcement, alerting the authorities and even nearby cars to the presence of an offender? This could be a very good thing indeed for those of us who are law abiding.

Re:waste of time (2)

Timothy Hartman (2905293) | about 4 months ago | (#46517789)

It could be great until it reaches far enough into laws you don't abide by or aren't even aware exist.

Re:waste of time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518237)

No it'd be every bad. First cars without this tech will be stolen more often. Second, facial recognition isn't that good. If you train it for one specific person out of a small subset it's ok. If you apply it to the full population then it's worse than finger or DNA printing. With all of these, you get more and more false positives when you apply them over larger populations. There will be many people wrongly arrested under this program.

First, you need images of everyone to create the facial database and it must be keep constantly updated. Are you willing to go to the DMV every month to get your pictured updated?

Re:waste of time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518411)

This could be a very good thing indeed for those of us who are law abiding.

Yeah, like the TSA, the NSA, free speech zones, stop-and-frisk, DUI checkpoints, unfettered border searches, etc. Oh, wait... all of these things are used against innocent people and violate their rights.

Yeah, you should probably step out of your fantasy world where the government is made up of perfect angels, read up on a bit of history, and then realize that if you give the government access to all this surveillance equipment, they will abuse it, but worse yet, it violates people's privacy and freedoms (regardless of whether you believe in freedom or not).

Re:waste of time (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 4 months ago | (#46517941)

What if they are angry because they are actively running from an abusive spouse that may kill them? Butter shut down the car...

I will never own a device with a remote kill switch that I do not have full and sole control over. (One reason to have a dumb phone. All they can kill is the service.)

Re:waste of time (1)

LoRdTAW (99712) | about 4 months ago | (#46518071)

There won't ever be a remote kill switch. Its such a stupid idea it won't be implemented. The only people who would push for it are idiotic nanny state morons who want to protect the children from dangerous speeders or car chases. Meanwhile they become an awesome attack vector for hackers looking to fuck up the evening commute for a laugh.

The only thing I can see becoming a reality are those high power "RF cannons" which emit such a high power signal that they scramble a vehicles electrical system effectively killing it. Though I suspect there could be legal problems if its use results in a deadly crash and the victims family sues the cops for wrongful death.

Re:waste of time (1)

Nidi62 (1525137) | about 4 months ago | (#46518421)

The only thing I can see becoming a reality are those high power "RF cannons" which emit such a high power signal that they scramble a vehicles electrical system effectively killing it. Though I suspect there could be legal problems if its use results in a deadly crash and the victims family sues the cops for wrongful death.

I would imagine things such as this would be deployed only in cases where current devices such as spike strips are used, ie high speed chases. The upside would be that you wouldn't have to predict the path of the suspect if one of the chase cars can just shoot it with a cannon. I don't really think they would be viable (and certainly not safe) if they were used in a basic traffic stop or anything like that. Might be useful in cases like sobriety checkpoints if someone tries to bail from the line, although that might be a questionable use.

Re:waste of time (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 4 months ago | (#46518487)

There won't ever be a remote kill switch. Its such a stupid idea it won't be implemented.

This attitude is dangerous and enables scary power grabs. I would have thought that indefinite detention, drone executions of American citizens without due process and outlawing of protests on private property would never happen in the US either, but they all did.

Re:waste of time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518809)

'There won't ever be a remote kill switch. Its such a stupid idea it won't be implemented."

Really? You DO realize that GM can do this with OnStar *currently*, right? It's a selling point. "Somebody steals your truck, you call the cops, and *zap*, they send a signal from a *satellite*, and it comes to a safe stop away from traffic."

So it's already here - not "won't ever be".

You seem upset Dave. (2)

the_skywise (189793) | about 4 months ago | (#46517677)

Why don't you take a stresstab and lie down for awhile.

I'll just slow the car down in the meantime.

Re:You seem upset Dave. (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 4 months ago | (#46517945)

Why don't you take a stresstab and lie down for awhile.

I'll just slow the car down in the meantime.

But I am stressed because the axe murder is chasing me!

Re:You seem upset Dave. (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about 4 months ago | (#46518025)

I'd like to see a remake where Dave goes into a rage after being locked out, and bleeps up Hal beyond all recognition. For example, pull the chips out of sequence, and make the now-retarded Hal into a toaster and burn the toast to high hell, and then put it in the sink and let water slowly fill it. "Daisey's need water, Hal. Doesn't your lame tune database know that?"

Prepare for a long commute (4, Interesting)

travdaddy (527149) | about 4 months ago | (#46517691)

Kill switches for when drivers get angry? If you thought gridlock was bad now, just wait until 50 angry stalled drivers are in front of you.

Re:Prepare for a long commute (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 4 months ago | (#46517951)

Kill switches for when drivers get angry? If you thought gridlock was bad now, just wait until 50 angry stalled drivers are in front of you.

That would shut off my car quite quickly... :)

Re:Prepare for a long commute (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518239)

That would probably piss me off and...oh...now I'm number 51. And I'm probably going to stay pissed off until my car starts moving again...well...shit...guess I'd better start walking.

Re:Prepare for a long commute (2)

Drethon (1445051) | about 4 months ago | (#46518339)

"Police report a drastic increase in people shooting their own cars." - Associated Press

Time to learn to control your facial expressions? (1)

Darth Twon (2832799) | about 4 months ago | (#46517709)

It can't be all that difficult.

Re:Time to learn to control your facial expression (1)

RavenLrD20k (311488) | about 4 months ago | (#46518029)

If I wanted to live among the emotionless , I'd move to Japan.

Re:Time to learn to control your facial expression (1)

hawkinspeter (831501) | about 4 months ago | (#46518685)

Just wear a happy mask. Might also help to get out of speeding tickets if the speed camera shows your car was driven by Ronald Reagan at the time.

Bah. (0)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about 4 months ago | (#46517733)

Rage isn't the issue, it's acting on that rage with violence.

Violent road ragers should be executed. To me it's sort of like those assholes who riot over sporting events. Fuck 'em, if you're that stupid you deserve a good beating by a cop with a baton, or if you throw a brick or something a bullet in the head.

Re:Bah. (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 4 months ago | (#46517801)

executed?
Violence breeds violence. They should either learn to deal with events that happen on the road appropriately, or not be allowed to drive.

Executed is a solution thought up by stupid short sighted people.

Re:Bah. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46517847)

Executed is a solution thought up by stupid short sighted people.

Or people unwilling to wait for morons to learn life lessons normally acquired in kindergarden.

Re:Bah. (1)

sexconker (1179573) | about 4 months ago | (#46518241)

executed?
Violence breeds violence. They should either learn to deal with events that happen on the road appropriately, or not be allowed to drive.

Executed is a solution thought up by stupid short sighted people.

Violence does not breed violence. If that were true we would have gone extinct ages ago.

Fact: All major conflicts in human history have been solved with violence.
Fact: Killing a violent person prevents them from being violent in the future.
Fact: Letting violent people run loose lets them commit more violence,
Fact: Rehabilitation doesn't work. The vast majority of offenders recidivate.

In almost all cases, people are violent not because of a lack of coping skills, a mental illness, etc, but because they simply want to be violent. Some people are just jerks, and other people shouldn't have to put up with that shit.

Re:Bah. (1)

LoRdTAW (99712) | about 4 months ago | (#46517973)

I think we need to install a camera on your computer to prevent posting while enraged.

No, I'm not angry! (1)

ThatsDrDangerToYou (3480047) | about 4 months ago | (#46517743)

... that's my "O face". Siri, hand me a tissue.

Clippy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46517767)

http://i.imgur.com/I0KxVrG.jpg

even angrier (2)

RichMan (8097) | about 4 months ago | (#46517783)

So someone gets cut off. They get mad. Then the system auto-controlls or shuts the car down.
Then the person gets even madder.
And as they cannot even chase the original cause will then just open up on the traffic flow in general.

I don't see this fixing anything unless it autoinjects some nice drugs.

Re:even angrier (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 4 months ago | (#46518699)

Amen. If you want to detect impending road rage, find a way to detect shitty drivers. You can probably base that on car behavior (that is, what the vehicle is doing) and you won't need to recognize faces or guess at human behavior at all.

Re:even angrier (1)

ThatAblaze (1723456) | about 4 months ago | (#46519019)

It doesn't have to be a kill switch. It could be something more subtle, like cap your speed at 55mph. The thing is no matter what they end up doing, if the car reacts to you getting suddenly angry in any way that will just serve to increase your road rage.

Injecting xanax would further inhibit your ability to drive, and let us not forget that for most people "happyness drugs" are highly addictive. It would serve no one if people were to develop a habit of getting into their car and getting really angry just so they could get their fix.

In short there is absolutely, positively no conceivable productive use for putting this technology in cars. It could, however, have a conceivable use if you were a patient in a hospital. Why anyone would try to apply this to cars is beyond me.

what? (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 4 months ago | (#46517785)

"and GPS breaking down we're you're headed "
equate to:
"and GPS breaking down we are you are headed "

Re:what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46517905)

Wats ur prob wit it?

Pattern recognition (1)

Guppy06 (410832) | about 4 months ago | (#46517857)

and GPS breaking down we're you're headed

If they're as reliable as Slashdot's automated grammar screening I don't have much faith in the technology

Spiritual Prosthetics, Tyranny of the marginal (1)

zugedneb (601299) | about 4 months ago | (#46517863)

I find it sad that when we can not make some follow law, or common sense, we seek technology to stop them from rampage, and force everyone else to live with that technology.
This seems to be the coming trend...

As example, in some places in eu, there is pressure to have exhalation test in the car for traces of alcohol, i think it is called alcolock...
Problem is, not being able to fallow common sense (law) to not drive intoxicated is a spiritual handicap. Alcolock on the car is spiritual prothesis. So lobby has success, whenever i start the car in the future, i have to put a prosthetic device in my mouth.

If this thing in the article makes it, I will be constantly monitored, because of the deeds of some minority.

I find this disturbing. Now, I do not like people very much, and have low levels of sympathy for my fellow humans.
Personally, I would rather see this minority, who is the target of these devices, to be identified, and executed by the side of the road.
In that is two flies in one hit: we remove the morons, and do not litter the car with prosthetic devices..

This dystopian bullshit. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46517893)

In the future there will be professional drivers and they won't let assholes with rage issues ruin our roads. Wait, fuck, that's utopian future...

Shut up already. (4, Interesting)

LoRdTAW (99712) | about 4 months ago | (#46517925)

The detection part sounds interesting; coupled with remote kill-switches that some government agencies want, and ever deeper fly-by-wire technologies, it's sounds downright dystopian, though.

Jee, hyperbole much? Nowhere in the article is it mentioned that there will be any dystopian government interaction. That was your own shitty opinion piece. Its the same crap the article postulates:

The real question is: when the Swiss team's camera detects anger or disgust, what will it do? Notify the authorities? Apply the car's brakes? Switch the radio to soothing music? Tell knock-knock jokes? What's the appropriate response?

Stop it. Please. Those are some of the most idiotic question ever asked. The car wont do anything as this wont be installed in them. Why not? Simple: there are no answers for any of those silly questions that would avoid a legal minefield.

Examples:
Driver is angry and car detects it. So the car notifies the authorities.
- Authorities don't care enough about some butthurt driver to stop looking for speeders which make the county/city/town money. Besides after the 1000th notification of road rage in the first ten minutes of their highway patrol shift they will just turn the damn computer off.

Driver is angry and car detects it. So the car applies the brakes......
- Causing the driver to lose control or a rear end collision. Car manufacturer is sued into oblivion. Camera recalled.

Driver is angry and car detects it. So the car switches the radio to soothing music....
- Which distracts the driver causing an accident. Or the driver can blame a road rage accident on the sudden blast of Michael Bolton which startled them while enjoying a beautiful morning on the highway in bumper to bumper traffic. Car manufacturer is sued into oblivion. Camera recalled.

Not so serious but:
Driver is angry and car detects it. So the car tells a knock knock joke....
Driver is offended by joke along with a concerned watchdog group. Public outrage ensues. Camera recalled.

What's the appropriate response?
None. People will get angry. Its better to just let them scream or pound the steering wheel and let it out and then have a laugh. If it results in an accident and the drivers anger can be directly linked to the accident then let the courts decide the appropriate punishment.

Re:Shut up already. (3, Insightful)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | about 4 months ago | (#46518335)

I remember reading about nano-technology years ago in a car magazine. One use for this was that you could have the paint on your car change color. So you didn't have to worry about getting an appropriate colored car because you could change the color of your car any time you wanted.

Ladies and Gentlemen, new for 2017--The Mood Car!

That's right! Sensors will detect your mood and change the color of your car! Angry? Your car turns a flaming red. Calm and relaxed? A nice deep blue. So if I cut off some other guy and see his car turn red, I know I'd better get out of there!

TV too? (1)

kmahan (80459) | about 4 months ago | (#46517961)

Next thing you know your TV will detect when you're raging and change the channel.

Re:TV too? (1)

wcrowe (94389) | about 4 months ago | (#46518033)

Fox News would go out of business.

Re:TV too? (1)

HornWumpus (783565) | about 4 months ago | (#46518225)

Are you kidding? Fox News/MSNBC/Democracy Now etc are all niches for people who can't stand to see anything not conforming to their world view.

Re:TV too? (1)

wcrowe (94389) | about 4 months ago | (#46519189)

True, but their world view is mostly about being angry at someone or something. The shows on those channels, and the way stories are presented, are specifically designed to get people angry and upset. The viewers are comfortable in their anger. They embrace it, and look forward to more of it. It's a kind of madness, I think.

But what if you just go around (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46517981)

with a permanent resting bitchface?

this is why I wear game day face dazzle paint (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about 4 months ago | (#46517985)

defeats all the facial recognition software, which already has a high failure rate.

Basically, if it worked in WW II or in Korea, it still works.

Welcome to Eastern Germany, Amerikka!

we are you are (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518005)

"GPS breaking down we are you are header" ?
parse error..

Solution in search of a problem. (1)

wcrowe (94389) | about 4 months ago | (#46518009)

A solution in search of a problem. With driverless cars on the verge of being a reality, road rage will become a thing of the past.

Good thing, or maybe not? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518027)

This sounds like a good thing at first, but won't it just cause people to avoid those facial emotions and develop a poker face against their car?

I wonder if this qualifies (1)

Tangential (266113) | about 4 months ago | (#46518039)

If yelling "get off your F-ing phone and drive" a lot while driving qualifies as road rage, I could be in trouble with a system like this.

MS-Rage Wizard (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about 4 months ago | (#46518073)

It's already been tried, but it didn't work out so well. [youtube.com]

I know when I'm enraged... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518105)

Create something that tells another driver when he (or she) is an idiot. That's the real problem. I know I'm mad when someone merges onto a freeway at 30mph. I know I'm mad when someone cuts me off. I know I'm mad when someone is in a left turn lane and attempting to go straight. I know I'm mad when the other driver in any of these situations flips me off when I honk.

The problem is they don't know or don't care.

Get bad drivers off of the roads; problem solved. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518179)

How about getting bad drivers off of the roads altogether. We all make mistakes here and there, but some people are very aggressive jerks and they need to go. They cause traffic problems, backups, accidents, and roadrage. I don't defend roadrage at all ever, but humans are humans. I get tense seeing people break the law and getting away with it. Almost anyone can be provoked into some kind of angry reaction, and some people unfortunately act on that anger. I would like to remove the root causes of the problem.

1) Better traffic enforcement. Cops who a) obey the laws, and b) ticket truly bad drivers.
2) Dashcams everywhere! Catch these idiots in the act and get them off of the roads. Stiffer penalties for professional drivers.
3) Better govt. In my area (NE USA suburbs) there are traffic lights which were obviously programmed by hamsters. They turn red causing major backups when there are no cars waiting on the side street. I've heard this is intentional. Morons.

Re:Get bad drivers off of the roads; problem solve (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46519169)

That would make many people unable to get to their jobs. As much as I would like to live within walking (or better biking) distance from work, I can't afford it. Many people have to commute greater than ten miles just to get to work here, and not having a car would be the end of their careers. (Where I live we don't have public transit aside from cabs and car pooling.)

If you think removing bad drivers from the road will fix people getting road rage, go right ahead. I'll be waiting for when the newly-unemployed-people-with-anger-management-issues decide to show you their appreciation for your efforts.

Accell/Brake Harshness (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518223)

Wouldn't it be easier to monitor accelerator and brake usage for harshness? The angrier you are, the less smoothly you use the pedals and thus the angrier you are (coarse vs fine motions) and the more likely you are to have an accident.

I look mean when I'm happy (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518313)

OK, I have that sort of face. Blame it on genes or too much time indoors, but when I'm not thinking about anything in particular -- happy even -- I look angry.

I was with a group of friends once, enjoying the beach, when someone asked me why I looked so angry.

I was sitting at a Chuck E. Cheesy watching my daughter once, and some other parent said, "Buddy, you gotta take it easy."

Said daughter drew a picture of me once. I looked like I was scowling. Why, kid? That's the way you always look, Daddy.

So I got that face that scares kids, makes others think I'm about to start a fight... This won't go over well.

Re:I look mean when I'm happy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46519045)

My mother in law has angry face. It doesnt help that she speaks a different language in a loud voice. Many a time I have asked my wife why she is yelling, only to be told that they are simply having a conversation.

"Some people smile, for example" (1)

Blaskowicz (634489) | about 4 months ago | (#46518333)

That happens to me every time my face is half covered in blood and I pick up a rocket launcher.

This tech should be used to make a nice car HUD. HUD needs a doom guy's face in the middle of it, of course! The way he constantly snoops on the left and right would entice the driver to pay about his surroundings. Funny stuff like the pissed off face (has left and right looking variants) with hurt groan would happen when you have bumps on the road and mild collisions, and two nice screams are built-in that can be played for driver death.

The Department of Pre-Crime... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518393)

...would like to ask you a few questions.

Exterior mood signs (1)

ClayDowling (629804) | about 4 months ago | (#46518395)

It would be cool if this technology could be coupled with exterior signs on the car. If I'm pissed, it would be great if the car could save me the trouble of giving the finger to the people around me, and just show a giant middle finger signal to the motorists around me.

Thought Crimes Are Next (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518415)

Just wait . . .

Right.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518557)

Most actual humans are incapable of accurately reading facial expressions in even slightly stressful situations. This article is dumb as hell

Road Rage or Bee Attack (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46518647)

There was a British TV show. A Detective Inspector investigated an auto accident on the A4. The driver who "started" the accident was seen screaming/yelling and gesturing at children talking his picture in a passing car. The DI thought the man went into road rage and caused the accident on purpose. A thorough investigation revealed an active bee colony in the area. One of the bees got into the man's car and was trying to sting him; the man was trying to defend himself against the attack, lost control of his car and rammed another driver. The man wasn't suffering from road rage as the DI initially suspected but was trying to get rid of the attacking bee.

When people are labelled as "Road Ragers", they are instantly convicted and do not have the "innocent until proven guilty" with the Coppers.

Time to buy a restored 68 Chevy pickup (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46519033)

And tell them all where they can shove their Big Brother crap

A piece of strategically-placed electrical tape (1)

kheldan (1460303) | about 4 months ago | (#46519075)

That's my answer to this technology.

Don't detect me bro! (1)

HellYeahAutomaton (815542) | about 4 months ago | (#46519131)

"I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore" .

You Can't Stop Progress! (1)

krisamico (452786) | about 4 months ago | (#46519141)

When you are too angry, your car will die, troopers will fast-rope onto it from their ornithopter, hit you with sick sticks and halo you while your fluids fly from every orifice... That is, if the AdWords for the latest hypnotic from Pfizer flashing across your windshield didn't calm you down first.

Does it work on robots? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46519143)

Do know when robot drivers will officially be on the road, but isn't this a little late?

Defeated (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46519187)

Just wear your happy face mask.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Jas3T_yeCqs/TO6-5PIcdDI/AAAAAAAACJQ/PHmd50f2kpY/s1600/SmileyMaskDemoSm.jpg

Reliability? (1)

jeffasselin (566598) | about 4 months ago | (#46519267)

What is likely to be the accuracy of this system? Even a 99% accurate system would be fairly useless. Say you get 1 rager per day out of 100 000 drivers. Over 100 days (about 3 months), it will properly flag 99 people and miss one. But during the same period would flag 1000 people per day who aren't raging or dangerous.

It's the same every time someone says they can "detect" a rare event out of a completely random sample, whether it is mass screening for rare diseases or conditions, terrorists or road rage. Unless your screening method is extraordinarily accurate, the sheer number of individuals examined by the system will cause a significant number of false positives.

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