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Google Fiber Is Officially Making Its Way To Portland

samzenpus posted about 5 months ago | from the getting-more-fiber dept.

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An anonymous reader writes This week the Portland City Council has approved a franchise agreement with Google to bring its fiber service to Portland. "As a result of the unanimous vote, Google will be subject to a five percent 'franchise fee' on its video revenues. It won't have to pay a three percent 'PEG' fee that Portland otherwise charges rival Comcast, but it will offer free Internet service for Portland residents for a $300, one-time fee. It'll also provide free Internet service to some to-be-determined nonprofits, in addition to providing a total of three free Wi-Fi networks in various parts of the city."

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Is it is? (-1, Flamebait)

jeffb (2.718) (1189693) | about 5 months ago | (#47244977)

Can you please get a fourth-grader to at least look over your headlines for basic grammar?

Re:Is it is? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245045)

pretty sure samzenpus and timothy are functionally illiterate, maybe generally mentally handicapped.

Re:Is it is? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245145)

+1

Re:Is it is? (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about 5 months ago | (#47246403)

I'm pretty sure they aren't functional.

Re:Is it is? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245065)

Mod parent up. What do we have editors for, otherwise?

As a non-native speaker of English it instantly stands out to me, distracting me and slowing me down. Since so many more people read these headlines than write them, it does pay to spend that little bit of extra attention to make sure you're not making a fool of yourself to every discerning reader.

Re:Is it is? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245147)

No, it does not pay. These headlines are provided to you for free, you get what you pay for. I fucking hate it when people bitch and complain about stuff they are getting for free. If you were here, I would punch you.

Re:Is it is? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245279)

You got the GP comment for free. Why are you complaining?

Re:Is it is? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245307)

You fail the "new economy" grade, cum iniquitate. But maybe you're just that, a hater, with a need to hate.

Readers here may not directly pay in money, but they do pay, like by being the product--the "eyeballs" sold to advertisers. In fact, the "community" angle makes people come back more often (like for commenting, and commenting on comments, and so on) and be more worth as product. There's a reason there's money to be made in "community building".

And there's this to consider: Unhappy product doesn't sell well, just like unhappy cattle makes for inferior dairy produce, dare I say it, even inferior meat. But even without that analogy a community that doesn't work to improve itself is hardly a community. Unhappy readers go away. Gone are the eyeballs. So there is business sense in keeping the product happy.

I can understand where you're coming from, the land of the entitled asshats, but that doesn't apply here. "Fix yer speeling and grammers" --as in, everybody is supposed to have learned this in school, making it a required skill more basic than driving-- is a different league to "give me free products, because I (claim I) paid for them once", or similar asshattery. So if you feel the need for punching, best bugger off to the nearest walmart and camp at the customer complaints desk for a worthy target.

Re:Is it is? (0)

BronsCon (927697) | about 5 months ago | (#47246211)

It does pay, because Slashdot is not, as you insist, free. There are actual paying members, and the rest of us get ads. Sure, they give top contributors the option to disable ads (I've got it in the top right corner of my page), but few of us do so, as we'd like to support this site, as least until Beta becomes mandatory.

Re:Is it is? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245161)

As a non-native speaker of English it instantly stands out to me, distracting me and slowing me down.

As a native speaker of English, it does the same for me too.

Re:Is it is? (2, Informative)

Bayoudegradeable (1003768) | about 5 months ago | (#47245085)

"making it is way" would sound better, agreed.

Re:Is it is? (0)

Shakrai (717556) | about 5 months ago | (#47245305)

Can you please get a fourth-grader to at least look over your headlines for basic grammar?

Than they can look over they're and fix them before they get posted.

Re:Is it is? (1, Insightful)

Yebyen (59663) | about 5 months ago | (#47245461)

Am I the only one who thought this might be an announcement about Portland, ME? Or any one of the 25 places called Portland in the US alone? I guess they must have already fixed the headline, they've started fixing these things as they get reported (apparently they actually do care about looking like buffoons).

Re:Is it is? (2)

JackieBrown (987087) | about 5 months ago | (#47246781)

I'm sure you're not. I haven't looked at the article, but my guess would be Oregon. Kind of like how if it said New York, I would not assume they were talking about the city in Texas.

Re:Is it is? (1)

Yebyen (59663) | about 5 months ago | (#47246869)

OK, so Portland Oregon is almost 10x larger than Portland Maine. The more you know...

Re:Is it is? (1)

frank_adrian314159 (469671) | about 5 months ago | (#47246817)

There are many places named Portland, but only one Portland - you know, the one that has a TV show named after it.

Re: Is it is? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47246459)

The headline is correct. "Its" is the possessive form, as used. "It's" is the form for it is. YOU should have learned that in fourth grade.

Re:Is it is? (1)

kannibal_klown (531544) | about 5 months ago | (#47246557)

Did they change it already?

As of 11:56AM New York time (16-June) it is saying "Google Fiber Is Officially Making Its Way To Portland" and lacks the apostrophe.

Therefore, at least as of now, it is using the correct form of its. Without the apostrophe it means the possessive, with the apostrophe it means "it is"

So did they take the apostrophe out?
Or are you making an incredible blunder?

Re: Is it is? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47246843)

They took out the apostrophe.

Is it is? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47246819)

It is.

WHICH PORTLAND (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47244991)

Oregon, in case you're interested.

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245013)

Portland, given no other qualifiers, is assumed to be in Oregon. We're sure as shit not talking about cement.

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (1)

rossdee (243626) | about 5 months ago | (#47245195)

When there are multiple cities of the same name in different states, it would be a good idea to mention the state, its only a couple of bytes extra in the text after all
Of course there are other Portland s in otheer countries too.

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245357)

Conversely, drop it when a well-known city without much in the way of confusing sister cities is referenced.

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (1)

SydShamino (547793) | about 5 months ago | (#47246565)

Portland, Maine, is relatively well known.

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245649)

I take it you're one of those people that sees Paris and immediately thinks Texas. It's a bit like all those assholes that see Washington and immediately assume the capital even though the state has a much larger number of people.

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47246571)

And probably one of those who see Kansas City and immediately think of Kansas. As if the state of Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn never existed. Ha!

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (2)

mrchaotica (681592) | about 5 months ago | (#47245347)

That works when you've got one big, well-known city and one little random town (for example, Atlanta, GA vs. Atlanta, TX). However, there's also a relatively significant Portland in Maine so in that case it helps to specify.

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245375)

Speaking as someone who lives pretty much equidistant from Portland, OR and Portland, ME - there is no ambiguity here. Portland, unqualified, always means Portland Oregon. Most people don't even know that there is a town called portland in Maine.

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (5, Interesting)

Penguinisto (415985) | about 5 months ago | (#47246417)

However, there's also a relatively significant Portland in Maine so in that case it helps to specify.

We've heard about the one out there in Maine, but most of us here in PDX think it's more myth and legend than an actual town. ;)

( Fun trivia bit: the one here in Oregon was actually named for the one in Maine. The founders of our fair city had a coin toss to determine who named the town, and the winner was from Maine. If he had lost, I'd be typing this from Boston, Oregon.)

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (1)

Will.Woodhull (1038600) | about 5 months ago | (#47246589)

Maine has relevance?

I'm not sure Bert and Ernie would agree with that.

Re: WHICH PORTLAND (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245743)

Uh no, it's not, jackass. Pretty much anywhere on the eastern seaboard it would be inferred as Portland, Maine - a rather progressive little city of its own.

Re: WHICH PORTLAND (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245039)

And here I was contemplating Google's rationale for putting fiber in Maine. Although, I definitely would not have minded that.

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (4, Funny)

NotDrWho (3543773) | about 5 months ago | (#47245041)

Well, of course. Maine is still not allowed on the internet. It's unfair, but it's the only way to make sure that Stephen King never has access to a blog.

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245383)

Having been to Maine, there's a very good reason, and it's not entirely Stephen King.

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (1)

andrewa (18630) | about 5 months ago | (#47245479)

I find it amusing that the referenced article abbreviates to Oregon as "Oreg.", rather than the standard "OR", or the much older (but still used) "ORE."... As long as they don't pronounce it "Ory-gone"....

Re:WHICH PORTLAND (2)

Will.Woodhull (1038600) | about 5 months ago | (#47246649)

Yeah. The official alternate pronunciation is "Oreegun".

I really cannot understand the confusion of Portland OR with Portland ME. One has Portlandia, the Wildwood, and the setting for the Grimm stories. The other has... uh, lobster.

shame it's not a typo (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47244993)

's/rt//' and I'm happy...
--- a Pole

Hipsters' high speed to match their high with weed (2)

NotDrWho (3543773) | about 5 months ago | (#47245023)

Film at eleven!

its it's (1)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | about 5 months ago | (#47245037)

Google Fiber Is Officially Making It's Way To Portland? Its incredible!

Re:its it's (1)

Threni (635302) | about 5 months ago | (#47245091)

This is London calling. We're all *amazed* at this development... it can't be long before even sunny Philadelphia is blessed with this product.

The "its", "it's" 'problem' (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245049)

Has it become a sort of badge of technological savvy honor not to know when to write "its" or "it's"?

Re:The "its", "it's" 'problem' (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245101)

I'm a professional writer with over 20 years experience and a Masters in English, and even I still fuck that up from time to time (along with there/their/they're and you're/your). It's not that I don't know the difference; it's that my hands type faster than my brain. And no one has perfect proofreading. In fact, one of my best novellas has a basic subject/verb agreement mistake in it that made it through several layers of editors and ended up in print.

Re:The "its", "it's" 'problem' (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245895)

They only had to proofread a single headline for correctness, not pages and pages of material.

Government shakedown (4, Interesting)

Kohath (38547) | about 5 months ago | (#47245053)

It's amazing that these governments still get away with this stuff. If you don't have several choices for internet providers in your location, maybe it's because no one wants to pay a "franchise fee" and a "PEG fee" and give away free service to your city government officials' friends. Or maybe it's because your local city council hasn't "approved" it.

Re:Government shakedown (1)

publiclurker (952615) | about 5 months ago | (#47245249)

It must really suck when the grownups don't just let you screw over anyone you want at any time.

Re:Government shakedown (4, Informative)

Kagato (116051) | about 5 months ago | (#47245313)

Outside of Airline Tickets we have no laws requiring prices for goods and services to includes taxes and fees. Comcast's prices are always exclusive of taxes and fees. They simply tack on franchise fees to the bill as a pass through to the consumer.

What does cost real money is right of way leases. In most places the vast majority of utility poles are owned by the local power and phone providers. They demand a price per month per pole. That ads up when it's thousands or tens of thousands of utility poles. Going below ground is no cheaper. That involves right of way easements for both public and private property, in addition to repair of roads and sod. Assuming that the land holder even wants to deal with you.

Re:Government shakedown (1)

cdrudge (68377) | about 5 months ago | (#47245403)

The city owns assets that Google needs to use: right-of-ways, utility poles, building space, electricity, etc. They should just allow access to Google and any other company that wants to use it without compensation?

Re:Government shakedown (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245511)

Of course, that's how the government is supposed to work for corporations. They get everything they want, and what little they provide, they charge excessively for, don't deliver, then demand payment to actually fulfill their promises.

Re:Government shakedown (1)

Kohath (38547) | about 5 months ago | (#47245991)

Would you rather have more choices for internet providers or more money in your city's treasury? I'll take more choices for internet providers. Because I'm not on the city payroll.

Re:Government shakedown (4, Insightful)

oneiros27 (46144) | about 5 months ago | (#47245421)

As someone who manages a PEG channel -- I agree, the fees can be excessive, and they're just passed right through to the consumer, so it's effectively just a tax on those who buy fixed line video services.

However, they should be equal across all providers, so to not hit them all with it equally means that you're favoring one over another, and as these agreements typically span 10-15 years, odds are there's one out there that has it.

As for the free service -- our town doesn't force them to connect up any non-profits, only government buildings. It's possible that other towns do that, but again, this would just mean that you're favoring a given group over another. I'd much prefer to see free (even if low speed) wifi covering our downtown area than picking and choosing which non-profits get special access.

Re:Government shakedown (3, Insightful)

whistlingtony (691548) | about 5 months ago | (#47245993)

I'm sorry, what are you outraged about? No one is giving free service to "city government officials' friends". And having my local city council approve a city wide rollout of a new service is kinda what a city council is FOR. When something affects an entire city, yeah, I want it to go through the city council.

As for the fees, I've started a small business. There were fees. I registered, did some paperwork, what about it? There SHOULD be a registry of businesses, with paperwork on who started them. That's a value to me, and to the city. The fees were negligable. I live in Portland. If you can't afford the tiny little paperwrork fees, your business sucks.

You sound like someone who hates government, just because. I quite like that there's someone out there with an actual strategic plan, managing services and paying attention. There's incredible valued added in that. My business is quite helped by decent roads, electrical lines(I wouldn't be able to operate my machines with spotty service), etc etc etc. It's been my experience that people that are pissed at government just take for granted all that they GET from having a stable system in place to run our society. That it IS taken for granted is, to me, a sign of it's success.

Re:Government shakedown (2)

Kohath (38547) | about 5 months ago | (#47246519)

Franchise fee and PEG fee (which was waived) are 8% total. That's hardly negligible. And free service for "some" non-profits? How is it legitimate to tell a business they must give freebies to "some" people (surely not friends of city officials) in order to do business?

Fewer government-imposed barriers and artificial costs should mean more choices for internet service. More choices would be good.

Re:Government shakedown (1)

SydShamino (547793) | about 5 months ago | (#47246599)

They didn't "tell" the business to give freebies to non-profits. Google comes in and proposes this, and then likely uses it as a negotiating point to get the PEG fees waived, since they are basically absorbing those costs directly through the services provided.

Re:Government shakedown (1)

Kohath (38547) | about 5 months ago | (#47246653)

That's not really much different. In general, governments shouldn't be negotiating for free service for "some".

Standing by for Seattle butthurt whines (1)

HotNeedleOfInquiry (598897) | about 5 months ago | (#47245099)

Why can't we have nice things too?

$300 = free? (2)

LookIntoTheFuture (3480731) | about 5 months ago | (#47245113)

OK. They are really stretching the word "free" here. Free = $300 + greedily scooping up your data with this service now or in the future? No, that's far from free.

Re:$300 = free? (5, Informative)

Scutter (18425) | about 5 months ago | (#47245167)

OK. They are really stretching the word "free" here. Free = $300 + greedily scooping up your data with this service now or in the future? No, that's far from free.

Compared to the anal probing from Comcast et. al.? Yeah, it's free.

Re:$300 = free? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245773)

At this point with Comcast it seems likes only virtual anal probing, uncomfortable but a necessary evil.

When dealing with the incompetents at Windstream it might as well be physical...I actually feel my sphincter tighten.

And who knows, with Google we might actually enjoy receiving a digit or two...

ANALogies complete. Carry on.

Re:$300 = free? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245989)

Get a $10 per month VM and run a SOCKS proxy over SSH. Let them "greedily scoop up" a bunch of encrypted bits :-D

HAHAHA, captcha is "robbed"

Re: $300 = free? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245189)

Everyone is so glassed over with the idea of high link speeds that can't even be utilized on most of the Internet except for nefarious purposes that they don't care about losing their privacy.

Re: $300 = free? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245363)

Yup. Comcast is evil and I hate them with all that I am, but at least they are too inept to data mine like Google. I'll stick with Comcast here in Portland, don't need Google having 100% of my traffic to 'classify'. Imagine the value to DoubleClick (Google)'s customers for traffic they have full control over. Don't even need to guess at who I am based on cookies and browser signatures. No thanks.

Re: $300 = free? (1)

whistlingtony (691548) | about 5 months ago | (#47245881)

You'd stick with Comcast over Goggle fiber? Haahaahahahahah! Meanwhile, Google is scooping up your data ANYWAY. Comcast probably is too, you really think they' ignore that potential revenue stream?

Re:$300 = free? (2)

thaylin (555395) | about 5 months ago | (#47245365)

The service is free.. The setup is not free. So they are offering the service for free......Also please point out where they scoop up your data....

Re:$300 = free? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245705)

Indeed. I suspect that what they want is for there to be faster internet so that people can cruise more sites per hours which translates to more impressions per hour and as a result more ad revenue. The money they make from providing the service is probably just going to cover the cost of providing the net capacity.

In the long term though them building in a few cities is intended to scare the incumbents elsewhere into action. Although here in Seattle the best uncapped connection I can get is 5mbps, which is up from 4mps nearly 15 years ago. Well. provided you're not willing to pay for a line to be built specifically for your house with higher capacity.

Re:$300 = free? (3, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | about 5 months ago | (#47245885)

It is a falsehood to separate the costs when you have no option then their equipment to get the service. They in inextricably linked. So no, not free.
It's a great price for the service, I can't wait for it to get done, and I think it's long over due for this level of competition.
But you statement is a falsehood based on years of market conditioning.

Re:$300 = free? (2)

Kjella (173770) | about 5 months ago | (#47246441)

Or simply the ambiguity of the language. If I can get water from my own well I'd probably say I have "free water" even if I once paid someone $300 to dig the well because the marginal cost of another bucket is zero. If there was one or several bids or I did it with $300 worth of my own labor, doesn't really matter. I don't really see a problem with Google saying a $300 one-time fee for "free Internet" service forever after. Certainly if you've already sunk the cost and is selling the house, then it's perfectly legitimate to promote it as free Internet service for the buyer.

Re:$300 = free? (1)

LookIntoTheFuture (3480731) | about 5 months ago | (#47246069)

... please point out where they scoop up your data....

It's right here in the name ---> "Google".

Re:$300 = free? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47246757)

Is the G silent?

Re:$300 = free? (1)

gameboyhippo (827141) | about 5 months ago | (#47245379)

Sounds like someone's a bit jealous. :) Here in KC, you typically have to pay an install fee for Internet and then pay a monthly fee for the service. With Google Fiber, you buy the equipment and get the service free.

Re:$300 = free? (2)

Just Some Guy (3352) | about 5 months ago | (#47246755)

They are really stretching the word "free" here. Free = $300 + greedily scooping up your data with this service now or in the future?

As opposed to the Comcast service I'm stuck with, which had a $150 setup fee (that I eventually got them to waive, after a month) and a $150 a month recurring charge, and data caps, and anti-net-neutrality lobbying, and I can't run a home server (so something like a Synology disk station directory sync daemon is technically against their TOS), and you can bet they're devouring my data like it was coke off a hooker's ass.

If I could pay Google $150 extra to not deal with Comcast and their attendant misery, I'd click the "buy it now" button so fast that I'd break my trackpad. Maybe they meant "free, as in liberated from Comcast bullshit"?

What about the independents? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245159)

What about the independent local providers? Will google just be using it's massive cash horde to smash all, and was there any thought to the local jobs created and maintained, and the investments in the communities served by the independents?

Re:What about the independents? (1)

Calinous (985536) | about 5 months ago | (#47245277)

If you have a contract with guaranteed time with a local, you keep that contract of pay early termination fees.

Re:What about the independents? (1)

symbolset (646467) | about 5 months ago | (#47245553)

If you are locked into a contract you can get the free service and then dial it up to gigabit once you are free. Or suck it up and pay the ETF.

Stephouse employees will be 50 times as productive (1)

raymorris (2726007) | about 5 months ago | (#47245603)

> was there any thought to the local jobs created and maintained,

Those employees at Stephouse, the independent ISP, currently maintain a network that delivers up to 20 Mbps. If those employees instead help build and maintain Google's local gigabit equipment, that means they provide 50 times as much bandwidth in the same 8 hour workday. A person who provides your house with a 1,000 Mb connection provides more value than the same person providing a 20 Mbps connection, so they can get paid more.

Some employees probably will upgrade their skills and work on the new gigabit plant, making more money. Other employees now have "free" gigabit, so they are in a better position to start their own web-based business. Either way, they can so something more productive than maintaining a slow legacy network.

also $75/month each = more hiring (3, Interesting)

raymorris (2726007) | about 5 months ago | (#47245699)

Also, each customer getting the independent service at 20 Mbps will save $75 / month if they switch to Google. That's an extra $75 / month per household ($10 million total) that residents can now spend at other local businesses. $10 million more in sales means that those other businesses will be hiring about 100 more people.

Re:also $75/month each = more hiring (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 5 months ago | (#47245845)

Thats 75 a month customer should be putting in the bank.

Any ways, 10 million spread out over all the services provide will mean exactly no more jobs.
Sure, if all the people went to star bucks, you would have an increase, but that's not how it happens.
And you number assume no one in Portland,Or. would want the 1Gb speed; which is laughable becasue Portland loves there high speeds.

You also don't seem to take into account the fact that the basic 'free' plan doesn't include TV. the 75 dollars from local providers is internet and TV.

SO, no. There will be no new jobs.

Re:also $75/month each = more hiring (1)

whoever57 (658626) | about 5 months ago | (#47246007)

Also, each customer getting the independent service at 20 Mbps will save $75 / month if they switch to Google.

In unrelated news, Comast increases its Cable TV service prices by an average of $75/month in the Porland area.

Re:Stephouse employees will be 50 times as product (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 5 months ago | (#47245797)

the free service is great for small personal use, but you would be really hard pressed to run a business on it.

That said, jobs aren't a 1 to 1 switch. IF there are 10 ISP employing 10 people, Google will probably only requires 20 employees fr he whole area.
It' will be a job loss. The 'IT create more jobs then it eliminates' starting going negative at the end of the 90s.

Surprise (1)

Chrisq (894406) | about 5 months ago | (#47245315)

Google Fiber Is Officially Making Its Way To Portland

They'll be pleased and surprised in Dorset by this.

Will comcast play hardball with CSN Northwest? (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 5 months ago | (#47245369)

Or will google just over pay for that channel that has big lack of availability do to comcasts high price for it.

The editors are illiterate, uneducated,and stupid. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245393)

The error of using "it's" when anyone beyond the first grade in the US
knows that "it's" means "it is" is so basic that the editors of this site
should all resign NOW and go get jobs as male prostitutes ( the one
job for which they are probably qualified ).

GOD DAMN IT, I am tired of stupid people publishing CRAP !

what about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245481)

phoenix, please?

Re:what about... (1)

rogoshen1 (2922505) | about 5 months ago | (#47245563)

Phoenix is pretty small, I think they'd wire Medford first. (Are we still naming cities without qualifying what state they're in? :) )

With Google Fiber though, would a huge, sprawly city like Phoenix be a wise choice compared to more compact places like KC and PDX?

Re:what about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245747)

How many Phoenixes do you know of? How many Portlands get in the national press on a regular basis? Medford, OR is probably a 3rd tier city as it rarely, if ever, appears in the national press.

Re:what about... (1)

Applehu Akbar (2968043) | about 5 months ago | (#47246113)

Portland, ME needs to become weirder to get publicity. Yeah, that's it!

Re:what about... (1)

Will.Woodhull (1038600) | about 5 months ago | (#47246741)

Yeah but they've got lobsters. That's got to count for something.

Re:what about... (1)

colfer (619105) | about 5 months ago | (#47246125)

They made a whole movie about this one, on the Alabama border. But the franchise was for... sin! The Phenix City Story [tcm.com]

Re:what about... (1)

SydShamino (547793) | about 5 months ago | (#47246621)

How about Austin first, since, you know, they announced us years ago and haven't rolled it out yet?

everyone's response (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 5 months ago | (#47245491)

"Fuck Portland, come to my city"
- Sincerely,
Everyone

g00gle SPIES (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47245643)

FUCK g00gle SPIES

300 dollrs is not free (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 5 months ago | (#47245767)

it's a great deal, you can pay via payments or up front, but can we stop with that 'pay us money, and get 'free' service?

I'm really looking at you Amazon and your pay 99 a year and get free shipping.

Again, Great deal, cheap price, good speeds for that price, ...not free.

It just occurred to me I should find out is it's one time fee per customer, or per address.

Re:300 dollrs is not free (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47246859)

I pay $99 a year and get next day shipping for $3.99 on all products I order

I get free 2 day shipping on all products that I order
I get free kindle books
I get a moderately sized catalog of free video streaming
I get a moderately sized catalog of free music streaming

Speaking as a Portland resident (2)

whistlingtony (691548) | about 5 months ago | (#47245789)

Speaking as a Portland resident.... EEEEEEEEeeeeee! I hope this goes through. This has been done in other cities. Should I be rounding up my neighbors now so we can all say "right here!" together when they offer it? Anyone have the scoop on these "fiber rallies" that the article speaks of? Anyone have any idea how many neighbors I'd need to be effective?

P.S. Fuck Comcast.

Re:Speaking as a Portland resident (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47246261)

I just hope that in the near future they bring it across the river to Vancouver, WA.

Re:Speaking as a Portland resident to Vantucky (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47246799)

That will require a better bridge. Too bad about the CRC. Too much graft, too much worry about the MAX bringing too many homeless people from Portland to Vancouver, because you know Vancouver is SO inviting and SO hard to get to now by bus or thumb.

mod do3N (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47246109)

politics openly. The mobo 3lew decentralizaed accounts for less

Franchise agreements (1)

CauseBy (3029989) | about 5 months ago | (#47246297)

"the Portland City Council has approved a franchise agreement with Google"

We Slashdotters are all opposed to franchise agreements, right? Why not just "let them build it" without a "franchise agreement"? No agreement necessary, just build the infrastructure.

Time to Move to Maine (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47246317)

Seems surprising that they'd bring this to Maine before Boston, but it's a good sign.

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