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Finding an ISIS Training Camp Using Google Earth

Soulskill posted about a month ago | from the bet-you-wished-you'd-stuck-to-word-of-mouth dept.

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An anonymous reader writes: Terrorist organization ISIS has been in the news a lot lately for their hostile activities in Iraq and Syria. They've also been very active online, posting propaganda and photos on various social networking sites to try to recruit more members. Frequently, they'll have pictures of themselves in nondescript locations — but even carefully selected images give clues to a real location. Citizen journalists at Bellingcat analyzed a group of these photos, comparing buildings and bridges in the background to images from Google Earth. With very little to go on, they were able to pinpoint the location of a terrorist training camp.

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poop (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733171)

pooooop

let 4chan have a go (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733179)

they will find their shoes sizes and dentists name in 10 minutes, for the lulz

Re:let 4chan have a go (2, Funny)

sideslash (1865434) | about a month ago | (#47733453)

The one guy had a British accent, so I'm pretty sure no dentist in the picture. /justkiddingcantyoulimeystakeajoke

Re:let 4chan have a go (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734189)

They're too busy pining after the Freedom you guys have taught them. You know, basically strip them of their rights and whisk them off for the safety of the nation.

I'm looking now (5, Funny)

cyberchondriac (456626) | about a month ago | (#47733183)

All I see is a big smoking crater..

Re:I'm looking now (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733257)

If only it were that easy.
Unfortunately, even if they are scum and deserve death, they are in another country and that country protects them, preventing anyone else from entering the country in order to get rid of them. Doing so without "permission" will lead to more trouble than it's worth.

Re:I'm looking now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733303)

Apparently you aren't familiar with the U.S.' actions in Pakistan a year or two ago.

As far as ISIS is concerned, I seriously doubt Iraq has any interest in protecting those asshats. If Iraq had a functioning government, that govt would probably ask for the U.S. to send a clean-up crew. It sure enough is needed in the case of ISIS. If there is an Allah, I hope that s/he shows them the same justice that they think they are dishing out.

Re:I'm looking now (1, Informative)

sumdumass (711423) | about a month ago | (#47734275)

I'm sorry but where have you been these last few months?

Iraq has been asking the US to send in the troops for a while now. We have been ignoring them and playing games claiming that the Maliki government caused ISIS to happen and more or less forced him out of office before we would help. Now we are doing limited bombings and offering strategy meetings with about 1000 troops in the area supposedly to protect US personnel. We were going to go in and rescue some people on a mountain but I guess they were either killed or escaped by other means. We did drop food and water I think.

http://www.dispatch.com/conten... [dispatch.com]

Re:I'm looking now (3, Interesting)

ShaunC (203807) | about a month ago | (#47734417)

The Kurds helped those people on the mountain escape to Turkey (likely with clandestine US involvement as well). ISIS was actually using Turkey's old embassy in Mosul to hold some Turks hostage for awhile, so it's no surprise that this training camp turned up in Mosul. Neat detective work tracking it down, though.

Re:I'm looking now (2)

MrL0G1C (867445) | about a month ago | (#47735441)

Batman is nearby in Turkey maybe he can help out.

https://goo.gl/maps/J651g [goo.gl]

Re:I'm looking now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47736275)

This whole thing could've been avoided, had G.W.Bush done the economically feasible thing and fixed many problems at once.
1. Ignore the blunderbutts @ the U.N. , while preparing their eviction notice in favor of housing the homeless in that overlarge building.
2. Conquer the Mid-East in one fell swoop of bombing and attacks until they wave the white flag or grow extinct.
3. Trade conquests to China in lieu of payment for debts.
4. Purchase our oil from our new besties the Chinese and let them control the problematic zealots for a change, their way.
5. Watch the U.N. wiggle, whine and dissolve when they realize, the world knows what a sham they were.
No extremists, no hostages, no threats, just some nice Islamic people learning to speak the language of their new overlords while the world gets some peace.
China should be able to handle the rest of the Islamic world making puny threats to them, but, eventually the entertainment will stop as they get used to the new reality and notice Allah is being phased out like the Buddha. ( unfortunately there are no statues of Mohammed for the Chinese Air Force to bomb to dust.)

If only we didn't have such retards as world leaders!

Re:I'm looking now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47736201)

Allah is just a title, meaning "The High One", given the Hebrew God YHVH, by the Islamic, so they wouldn't have to sound Jewish. The rest was added by an ancient version of modern televangelists named Mohammed in order to rationalize pilfering merchants and screwing little girls while controlling the masses and getting away with it.
So, if you believe in the same god as the Catholics or Jews, then there is indeed an Allah. He just has a different agent and road manager in some countries.Publicists vary as well.

Re:I'm looking now (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733343)

No it wouldn't. Those children countries need to grow up and learn to play well with others. It's time for the parents of planet earth to pick them up by their ears and toss them into their respective corners. If they can't get along, then the global equivalent of grounding (nukes) will be unleashed. Bye-bye Puttin, bye-bye N. Korea, bye-bye most of the middle east.

Re:I'm looking now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733421)

Yes, them being violate is so immature. We should be mature by being violent against them, though. Because that's totally not hypocritical.

Re:I'm looking now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734683)

Mature adults bite cubs who behave badly. If they behave badly enough they get eaten. Time to do some eating.

Re:I'm looking now (1)

qbast (1265706) | about a month ago | (#47735511)

Yes, by all means nuke Russia. Most of USA would end up as irradiated rubble as well, but you would sure show Putin who is the boss!

Re:I'm looking now (1, Flamebait)

WindBourne (631190) | about a month ago | (#47733637)

First off, this is in a part of Iraq that the Iraqi gov does NOT control. They probably would have little issues with us taking it out.
Secondly, W has already shown that CONgress can be conned into anything.
Third, while I am in favor of blowing this to bits (along with the recruits), it does ZERO good, unless the iraqi gov and army is ready to defend itself AND if the gov. is ready to change. The iraqi regime that is in control is Shias and they have not been willing to work with the Sunnis. In fact, they did to Sunnis, what SUnnies did to them for many decades. What is needed now, is for their military to take back that region (with the west's help), and then grow up and act like a nation and not a religion.

Re:I'm looking now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734203)

...and then grow up and act like a nation and not a religion.

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God...

Re: I'm looking now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734763)

Ok, good, you cut off the completely irrelevant and unobserved section of the end.

Re:I'm looking now (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734239)

You need to start paying attention. The ISIS threat has already lead to a change in the Iraqi government. They have replaced their military commanders who failed to put up a fight when ISIS first started their attacks in Iraq and reformed their military units. The ISIS threat also caused the Iraqi government to directly ask the US for help. That is a major political hurdle to cross for any Arab leader these days. US supporters in the ME are not very popular to put it mildly. The Arab leaders may ask for US help behind closed doors but to do it in the open is a very clear sign that they are worried about the ISIS threat. This ISIS threat has resulted in the Iraqi's, Kurds, and Sunni and Shia tribal leaders working together towards a common goal instead of fighting and under mining each other as they have been doing for years. They are finally taking advantage of the capabilities the US is providing. This includes air support, military advisers, and a fair number of spec ops troops to support the reformed Iraqi armed forces and Kurdish forces. These US actions so far do not require any "conning" of congress and falls under the presidential authority. How can people witness the barbarity and carnage ISIS is delivering across the region and not want to put aside all the other petty political bullshit that is so popular these days and support any and all efforts to destroy the ISIS threat? They can always go back to fighting each other after the ISIS threat is removed.

Re:I'm looking now (1)

erikkemperman (252014) | about a month ago | (#47735213)

What lead to a change in the Iraqi government was that Maliki refused to allow US troops to stay permanently. Word is the successor comes pre-agreed on that issue.

Meanwhile IS is the enemy in Iraq but somehow we're not supposed to notice that they are our allies in Syria. Who would have thought that they might use the same weapons we gave them in A suddenly in B?

And since they are additionally quite heavily funded mostly from Saudi Arabia, which is basically the most brutal theocratic dictatorship on the planet, not to mention our favorite client state in the region, killing IS supply lines really should just be a matter of saying the word.

Re:I'm looking now (2)

pubwvj (1045960) | about a month ago | (#47734911)

" they are in another country and that country protects them, preventing anyone else from entering the country in order to get rid of them. Doing so without "permission" will lead to more trouble than it's worth."

This is really a non-issue. You really don't understand modern warfare if you actually believe that.

Time to implement the game App Wack-a-Terrorist. It shows you pictures from terrorist groups' propaganda. Recognize anything? Click it and describe it. Points for accuracy in time and space, people, etc. CIA takes notices when cards rise above a certain threshold. Then they send in a drone strike if needed. Cool game! Win an iPad!

Re:I'm looking now (4, Insightful)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about a month ago | (#47733411)

. . . the trouble is . . . the training camp is probably conveniently located right next to a hospital or a school.

Re:I'm looking now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733513)

US, just tag israel in

Re:I'm looking now (2)

Joel Cahoon (2906501) | about a month ago | (#47734613)

...and the citizens are conveniently pretending they don't notice.

Re:I'm looking now (1)

flyneye (84093) | about a month ago | (#47736149)

All I see is a nude beach @ Monte Carlo, and you saps are looking for what?

$20 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733185)

I'll bet $20 they use Linux

Re:$20 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733283)

Well, Muslims are child molesters so it stands to reason that they use Linux.

Re:$20 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733447)

Brings back memories. Yep, I remember my first troll...

Re:$20 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733697)

More molestors are atheists than any other group.

Re:$20 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734223)

I think the Pope would like a word with you. ...or your kids.

How dare you infidels spy on Islam? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733205)

The religion of peace should be respected [frontpagemag.com] . How dare you American PigDogs look in on us as we go about the business of our culture like beheading the innocent, burying people alive and fucking 6 year old boys in the ass? Allah will get revenge on you on, god willing, and you'll bow to Mecca with a gun in your back.

Re:How dare you infidels spy on Islam? (0)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a month ago | (#47733337)

Nice try. Your link goes to a Saturday Night Live Robert Smigal cartoon that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand here.

Re:How dare you infidels spy on Islam? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733405)

It has to do with Obama having more respect for Islam than he does for Americans, you fucking Obama shill.

Re:How dare you infidels spy on Islam? (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a month ago | (#47733531)

It has to do with Obama having more respect for Islam than he does for Americans, you fucking Obama shill.

I've learned to smell out an obnoxious troll post on /. Try to make it into the political. If you had a real argument, you would have presented one. Ta ta...

Re:How dare you infidels spy on Islam? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733569)

If you weren't getting paid by Obamy you wouldn't have said shit in the first place. Fuck off...

Re:How dare you infidels spy on Islam? (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a month ago | (#47733589)

I wish Peace, to you, fellow traveler. :^)

Re:How dare you infidels spy on Islam? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734477)

Why would you even reply to this shit? Are you that fucking new here?

Re:How dare you infidels spy on Islam? (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a month ago | (#47735287)

You gotta start somewhere, with some people....

Re:How dare you infidels spy on Islam? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734299)

Yeah, because Christianity is truly the religion of peace. Tell that to:

the NLFT (a Christian organisation likely supported through weapons and finance from the Baptist Church of Tripura), Roman Catholic terorists in the same area, anti-Balaka Christian militants in the Central African Republicl killing Muslim civilians, Swami Lakshmanananda Saraswati assassinated on behalf of Christians(potentially even the head of the local World Vision chapter) - he claimed Christian missionaries had attacked him eight times, the NSCN - a Christian group engaging in religious violence and also indulging in terrorist activities varying from kidnapping, illegal drug trafficking, extortion, etc, not to mention the ethnic cleansing of Kuki tribes in Manipur , displacing around 100,000 people and killing more than 900.

Maronite Christian militias massacred Palestinians and Lebanese muslim during the 1975-1990 civil war, as well as in 1982 where they targeted unarmed Palestinian refugees for rape and murder. That's considered to be genocide by the UN General Assembly. A Christian group engaged in genocide, truly the act of the One True Faith, the True Religion of Peace.

Romania has (and had) the Iron Guard and the LÄfncieri, anti-semitic and fascist Christian groups.

The Lord's Resistance Army. The Ku Klux Klan, a Christian terrorist organisation. The Army of God, a terrorist organisation who murder doctors that don't follow their beliefs on abortion. Lambs of Christ, Christian Identity, Christian Patriot. Concerned Christians, a group of Christians deported from Israel because they felt they would get into heaven if they attacked holy sites in Jerusalem in 1999. Hutaree, a group planning to use IEDs. The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, Defensive Action, The Freemen Community.

These are all Christian terrorist groups. As I said above, truly the one true religion of peace.

Pull the other one.

Idea! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733215)

Bomb it!

isn't this what ISIS *wants* infidels to do? (2)

turkeydance (1266624) | about a month ago | (#47733245)

come get us....we can't get to you, yet.

Facilitating All the world's spy needs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733275)

That's Google. That is why it wasn't a brilliant move to let a corporation build its spy network when all sides to all conflicts have equal access to the top spy satellites unless you are pushing complete global anhilation..

Re:Facilitating All the world's spy needs (1)

khallow (566160) | about a month ago | (#47733327)

That is why it wasn't a brilliant move to let a corporation build its spy network when all sides to all conflicts have equal access to the top spy satellites unless you are pushing complete global anhilation..

I wouldn't call getting out of the way "brilliant" either. "Sensible" seems more appropriate. And rather than use the term, "complete global annihilation", I'd use the term, "reduction in conflict".

Group Think (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733333)

Sounds like a project for the cloud. Millions of westerners in their spare time on trains, planes, buses and at doctor's offices playing Wack-A-Terrorist! Offer prizes and we'll have winners. They won't be the terrorists though...

Does this help me buy things with my phone? (1)

uCallHimDrJ0NES (2546640) | about a month ago | (#47733335)

Almighty Isis, make my phone pay for my potato chips!

Wait a minute... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733351)

I'm beginning to think these guys aren't very smart.

Re:Wait a minute... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47735119)

About as smart as a flea trying to attack a tank. They live only because the US allows them to. If we wanted, the US could nuke their entire countries into radioactive wastelands.

If you can actually do something about it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733427)

If you can actually do something about it, you probably have better tools than Google Earth.

Unless of course the military contracted things out to Google Drone (TM), in which case I stand corrected.

thing i don't understand (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733431)

it won't be a stretch by any means to think that the US govt has access to far better imaging technology, that can pinpoint enemy bases in real time. with drones/satellites/gps guided missiles etc, so my question is, why the heck do these people still exist?

Re:thing i don't understand (2)

sumdumass (711423) | about a month ago | (#47734387)

http://www.dispatch.com/conten... [dispatch.com]

I'm not sure Obama can politically afford to get too carried away with bombing ISIS. Whether it is true or not, there is plenty of talk that Obama allowed this to happen by not keeping troops in Iraq longer. He blames the Iraqi government for not updating the SOFA agreements but people have been claiming that Hillary (presumable under Obama's orders) kept increasing demands that couldn't be met by the Iraqi government. He then declared his campaign promise has been realized and ended the war on terror to boot.

So how does he go back and say the war on terror is not over, how does he come back and say we need to go back into Iraq after claiming the people foreseeing this were nutters, how does he do this without giving credibility to all those decrying our exist from the world or who said if we did not lead in Syria, something evil would fill the void. The problem is, he seems to believe that if we mind our own business, the world will not hate us, will not want to kill us, and situations like this will not exist.

Now I will admit that all that may not be 100% true, but it is the perception people are getting and it is the perception he seems to be afraid of when he has to acknowledge his foreign policy was a failure, that his plans for peace didn't work. This is what he is up with, he is either claimed to be wrong on everything and allow it to happen, or he has to admit he was wrong and do something about it that goes against what he seems to believe.

I dropped that comic because it does appear that he is more occupied playing golf than the problems in the world. But to be fair, if you can golf somewhat well, it is a relaxing and peaceful time in which you can actually think things through. This is probably why so much business gets done on the gold course.

Re:thing i don't understand (2)

cavreader (1903280) | about a month ago | (#47734781)

Well he can't run for re-election and that tends to let second term Presidents do things they normally wouldn't do for fear of negatively impacting the next election. The world cannot continue using the earlier Iraqi and Afghanistan wars as an excuse to completely oppose all potential military involvement in any future situation. When making the decision on whether to commit military forces each situation needs to be evaluated separately and on it's own merits. The ISIS threat needs to be destroyed using any means possible. US air support, spec ops teams, and military advisers are working with both the Iraqi and Kurdish ground forces. It's a low risk strategy for the US military and the Iraqi and Kurd ground forces are doing the lions share of the fighting and dying. After all it's their country and their people. In the past the US provided a no-fly zone to protect the Kurds from retaliation by Saddam Hussein after the 1991 Iraqi War. The people in that region are probably the only ones in the world who actually has a favorable opinion on the US. That fact alone is reason enough to try and help them now. Normally I don't think the US should get involved in any military conflicts unless US interests are realistically and directly threatened. There is currently no country in the world worth the loss of even one US soldier. However, in this particular case I am willing to set that requirement aside and support the destruction of a truly despicable group of serial killers.

Re:thing i don't understand (0)

sumdumass (711423) | about a month ago | (#47734881)

I do not disagree with your sentiment, I just perceive Obama's dilemma as being such that he will loose face whichever way he goes so I think he is going to pick whatever is most favorable to him according to the people he cares to impress.

Otherwise, who is going to pay him $2mil a speech or give his daughters a cushy job so his future is secure......It's like drawing a line in the sand and having Russia bail them out when it appears that not only was it crossed, but they were pissing all over your sand castle while doing it.

I'm reminded of an old asterix and obelix cartoon where in one of the scenes, asterix is in a roman tower and obelix outside and they try to go to each other pummeling the Romans along the way just to realize they switched places and have to do it again. Near the end, a roman soldier cries out, maybe if we are quiet, they won't see us or something like that.

Government can't but (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733433)

Google earth can? Ooo yeah we be fooked.

Synthetic GeoLocation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733445)

Is not new.. its already used quite a bit in the Security Business, reversing a location based on a 3D reconstructed space is childs play

When they catch on and start Chroma Keying non-existant locations a huge tool will be lost.. but for now.. selfies are being mined like crazy.. Papparazzi use them too

The U.S. know exactly where they are. (0)

pigsycyberbully (3450203) | about a month ago | (#47733493)

Just like the Al Qaeda group they are financed by the U.S., their weapons are provided by the U.S. the U.S. had been training them and U.S. special forces have been in Syria showing them what to do. The British government through the MI5 group and GCHQ have been using informers and agent provocateurs to encourage them to travel to Syria to fight. Remember hook hand remember his sidekick well his sidekick has a government-sponsored website and he even has a YouTube channel recruiting Muslims. This group was a nonexisting group until funding by the U.S. government when these people are long dead and buried and have been used you will be left with absolutely no rights whatsoever. You will have to ask the authorities for permission to scratch your arse and have a supervisor to monitor any international phone calls you make. The U.S. know exactly where they are so does the U.K., when the U.S. says jump the English politicians say how high!

One's hostile is another's hero (0)

Mister Liberty (769145) | about a month ago | (#47733495)

There are other 'terrorist organizations' with 'hostile activities in Iraq and Syria', some of them a tad less indigenous than ISIS.
They aren't in the news much.
How 'bout they all get the fuck out of there and let the locals decide how they want to run their country?

Re:One's hostile is another's hero (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733633)

ISIS has a lot of foreign fighters you moron, they are the one imposing their laws on the locals. But don't let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

Re:One's hostile is another's hero (1)

gtall (79522) | about a month ago | (#47733799)

As the AC below commented, many of ISIS fighters are foreign nutjobs. And guess where their passports will allow them entry when their work there is done?

Don't worry (1)

djupedal (584558) | about a month ago | (#47733519)

I'm sure google won't tell anyone about your interests in such things...

Re:Don't worry (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | about a month ago | (#47733601)

I'm sure google won't tell anyone about your interests in such things...

Many thousands of people are interested in such things, only a extremely tine percentage are interested in actually booking a flight to these locations.

For example: http://www.virtualglobetrottin... [virtualglobetrotting.com]

Kindly remove your tinfoil hat before the microwave beams cause it to catch fire.

Every time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733523)

I hear the word lately, I've to think of dwarf fortress. I cant help.

That's not all you can see (1)

Nidi62 (1525137) | about a month ago | (#47733525)

As a bonus you can also tell if they are pale Irish or if they have long red hair and boobs.

Re:That's not all you can see (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47733819)

In my experience, "pale Irish" and "long red hair and boobs" are often paired, not mutually exclusive features.

How do they know who's camp it is? (1)

ron_ivi (607351) | about a month ago | (#47733551)

Seem the area has many groups - some friendly to one agenda, others friendly to other agendas. It doesn't seem hard to use areal photos to find *a* camp. But how might they know it's an ISIS camp? (especially considering that a facility may be Local Police one day, and ISIS the next.

Re:How do they know who's camp it is? (3, Insightful)

mobby_6kl (668092) | about a month ago | (#47733847)

If you RTFA, you'd see that they referenced ISIS PR videos, so it's not just "oh that looks like it might be training camp" but "these geo features from the videos correspond exactly to this thing here on the map" type of analysis.

Because... (2)

aeschinesthesocratic (1359449) | about a month ago | (#47733573)

crowdsourcing and internet slething just worked out so well for IDing the Boston Bombers, right?

Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (4, Insightful)

WindBourne (631190) | about a month ago | (#47733617)

Seriously, after that sawing off a live man's head, I have NO problem with blowing these assholes away. In fact, I would be happy to pull the trigger to launch.

Now, the real question is, did this interfere with an on-going operation? I would hate to think that showing them how easy it is to find out info from their propaganda would stop its flow.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (0)

Nyder (754090) | about a month ago | (#47733745)

Seriously, after that sawing off a live man's head, I have NO problem with blowing these assholes away. In fact, I would be happy to pull the trigger to launch.

Now, the real question is, did this interfere with an on-going operation? I would hate to think that showing them how easy it is to find out info from their propaganda would stop its flow.

Did you watch the video? I did and they have another hostage ready to chop his head off. And they taunted Obama at the end, saying it's your move.
So ya, blow these people up, another journalist loses his head. It's all fair, you know, democracy & thank. Kill them, they kill us, kill them, they kill us, kill them, they kill us, etc....

Good luck with that plan, because well, it's the same crappy plan that has gotten us into this mess.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (2)

gtall (79522) | about a month ago | (#47733813)

Islam has been at war with everyone else from its inception. The West had to do nothing to incur their wrath. In fact, they need the West so they can claim to be victims and prepare their followers to die for Islam...and virgins...don't forget the virgins. Apparently, Heaven is full of them just waiting for a bunch of hairy, smelly jihadis.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (3, Insightful)

Em Adespoton (792954) | about a month ago | (#47734029)

Islam has been at war with everyone else from its inception. The West had to do nothing to incur their wrath. In fact, they need the West so they can claim to be victims and prepare their followers to die for Islam...and virgins...don't forget the virgins. Apparently, Heaven is full of them just waiting for a bunch of hairy, smelly jihadis.

You do realize that a sizable portion of the world's Muslims live in The West, right?

I think you're confusing Islam with a particular politically motivated Islamic sect -- kind of like people do with the Crusades, Westboro, calling the US a Christian country that abuses its power, etc.

It's not that religions are at war with everyone; it's that they can be easily abused for political gain, if care is not taken to prevent this.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47735049)

Someone tells it like it is, and gets downvoted. Stay classy,internet...

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734045)

As opposed to Christianity, which has never been at war with anyone, and has never glorified martyrdom.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734127)

As opposed to Christianity, which has never been at war with anyone, and has never glorified martyrdom.

Nice false equivalence argument.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734903)

Something about the temple of Philae on August 24, 394 AD, where the last priests lived who could read Egyptian hieroglyphs, and how they were murdered by peace-loving Christians because they weren't Christians, members of the one true faith.

Something about my other post containing a list of more than a dozen Christian terrorist groups who murder those who aren't Christians.

Something about a logical fallacy being mis-applied, because Christians wave the flag about them being the one true religion of peace but actually being just as bad as muslims.

Pity the West's media are mostly Christian, or at least Christian sympathetic, as so many of these groups get very little coverage, and then we get apologists such as yourself doing their best to mis-represent Christianity as a religion of peace, rather than the religion of violence that it truly hides.

Really, Slashdot? Fucking pathetic. Sort your shit out.

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Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (1)

TapeCutter (624760) | about a month ago | (#47736279)

Yep, the new warlord desperately wants the US to start bombing Iraqi cities, it's the oldest recruiting method known to man.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734001)

Yes, they have another hostage. What's your plan? Pay a ransom, so they an incentive to take more hostages? Ignore them, as they continue to kill plenty of Syrians and Iraqis? Send in special ops? That didn't work the previous time we tried.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734053)

Punch, counter-punch. Someone punches you and you punch back.
Attack, counterattack. One army attacks, and another attacks back.
Terrorism, counter-terrorism........

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (1)

Stan92057 (737634) | about a month ago | (#47734287)

What is your plan? Idea? I really would like to hear it. And remember their bible demands the murder of the Infidel there is no well maybe it can be read this way or that way. It black and white demands it. How does one fight against someone following their religion and teaching?

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734491)

Bomb the shit out of them. They are going to kill that second guy anyway.

PS: I am normally an Obama supporter but if he does not do this he is stupid.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (1)

Jeremi (14640) | about a month ago | (#47734523)

And remember their bible demands the murder of the Infidel there is no well maybe it can be read this way or that way. It black and white demands it.

First of all, [citation needed].

How does one fight against someone following their religion and teaching?

Did you know that the Christian Bible also "black and white demands" that anyone caught working on a Sunday be put to death? (citation [biblehub.com] ). And yet somehow we don't see a lot of killings of Sabbath-breakers. So most clearly people can distinguish between the applicable and non-applicable parts of their holy texts. (Those who cannot we call "fundamentalists", and they are the problem; not every religious person in the world)

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (1)

Stan92057 (737634) | about a month ago | (#47734703)

Well were not talking about the Christian or their bible so any reference to it is moot. Were Talking about the Koran and Muslim faith. Christian are not beheading and Murdering in the name of their God at this point in time. Muslims are.

Citation provided

http://www.deceptioninthechurc... [deceptioninthechurch.com]

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (1)

i.kazmi (977642) | about a month ago | (#47735261)

Were? What were you trying to say?

How bloody hard is it to press the apostrophe?

Also, weren't the Republicans pissed at Obama for not openly supporting the predecessor of ISIS? Here's a pic McCain took with members of what is now known as ISIS [countercurrentnews.com] back when their only objective seemed to topple Asad's regime in Syria.

Also read some history, the al-Quaida and the Taliban were created (trained and armed) by the CIA to fight a proxy battle against a certain Communist superpower

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (2)

dkf (304284) | about a month ago | (#47735355)

I did and they have another hostage ready to chop his head off.

The way to deal with these people is to ignore whether they have the second hostage (assume he's already dead, even if that's technically premature) and to bomb the area, preferably with something like white phosphorous incendiaries. It also needs to be done soon, because people regard such actions less favourably when it is longer from the event which the punishment is being meted out for. Make it very clear that once someone starts killing hostages, reprisals will come. If you don't, the next damn terrorist group will think they can get away with this sort of thing too; you're not protecting those already captured, you're protecting everyone else.

It's a shame, but being this nasty is the only way of hammering home to idiots that fucking with is a seriously bad idea (unless you can act with more precision and kill just the terrorists). And it does work: it's been proved to work over and over throughout history. It probably needs to be accompanied with a full apology to any innocents caught up in the crossfire to mitigate incidental downstream trouble.

Re: Time to build a cruise missile and send it ove (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47735795)

Not really the same, at all. AQ is pretty much gone. ISIS started under bush, got nowhere and it was only because the GOP faught against O going into Syria that Isis gained any thing.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (1)

CaptainDork (3678879) | about a month ago | (#47733811)

Two things:

1.) Photographs are images frozen in time. A little bit later, things change. Try it. Go outside with your phone and take a picture. Wait until after Family Feud. Go outside and look at the same scene and the picture on the phone. Notice the the cat is gone now.

2.) "I would hate to think that showing them how easy it is ..." -- Just no, OK?

Re: Time to build a cruise missile and send it ove (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734511)

1) So what? They will continue training in the same area. Heck those pix are from different time periods and it is the same thing: an ISIS training ground.

2) an Germany and France have basically funded AQ because they are paying 100 of millions for ransom. OTOH, if we capture and then imprison for life these dogs combined with massive helping other nations to stop them, it WILL stop.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734413)

I've watched it and it was definitely fake which makes sense when you know who created, trained and supplied ISIS.

Re: Time to build a cruise missile and send it ove (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47735773)

I have wondered over and over about that. It really looked surreal.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734743)

You can be almost certain it did

If a bunch of yahoos on the Internet can do it, it's already being done.

Now it gets harder. Cat and mouse.

Re:Time to build a cruise missile and send it over (2, Informative)

Beck_Neard (3612467) | about a month ago | (#47735503)

> Seriously, after that sawing off a live man's head, I have NO problem with blowing these assholes away.

If a video of a man's head being sawed off makes you frightened and impairs your judgement, then you are just playing into their hand. It's a shame the word 'terrorism' has shifted away from its original meaning of "The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims", because it's such a great word, and it applies amazingly well here. An act of terror doesn't have to be crashing a plane into a building. Sawing off a man's head then posting the video on the internet is, in fact, an act of terror. It is designed to inspire fear. They've figured out what the Mafia, the Viet Cong, the Mongols, and countless other groups throughout history have found out: Making yourself look like an inhuman monster is actually a good survival strategy when your enemies are stronger and more numerous. This fictional quote, while it's from a movie, it's particularly relevant: "It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror. Horror has a face, and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies."

i found it (1, Flamebait)

hjf (703092) | about a month ago | (#47733649)

Langley.

Also training ground for Hamas, Bin Laden, Al-Qaeda...

ISIS doesn't exist. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734023)

President Obama won the so-called "war on terror."

ISIS is just a made-up conspiracy made up by loony tea baggers to discredit Obama's foreign policy. Because they're racists.

ISIL not ISIS (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734181)

ISIS has been ISIL for at least a month now. The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria changed to the Islamic State of Iraq and Levant. This is significant as they are trying to create a Muslim Caliphate over the governments of the entire region.

ISIL not ISIS (2)

syockit (1480393) | about a month ago | (#47734317)

They've been just IS for some time now. And if I'm not mistaken, the last S in ISIS stands for Sham, which is Arabic for Levant. And they claim that the Caliphate has been established.

Re:ISIL not ISIS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734419)

No, they're crackers. No, they're GNU/Islam. No, they're a trojan not a virus. No!!!

You know where this is headed... (2)

Jeremi (14640) | about a month ago | (#47734555)

Drone target-selection via popular vote on Reddit in 3, 2, 1....

Re:You know where this is headed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734809)

copy of video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92stGF2Kcfo

I did this a few years ago to find CIA detention (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47734559)

I used this technique a few years ago to find a CIA detention centre in Afghanistan called "The Salt Pit". A satellite imaging company showed images but without coordinates (at government request). I had Google Earth and looked at the colors and images carefully. It took about 45 minutes, but I found it and posted the exact lon/lat to Wikipedia. They didn't turn me down.

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