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Grand Ayatollah Says High Speed Internet Is "Against Moral Standards"

samzenpus posted about three weeks ago | from the slow-it-down dept.

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An anonymous reader writes A Grand Ayatollah in Iran has determined that access to high-speed and 3G Internet is "against Sharia" and "against moral standards." However, Iran's President, Hassan Rouhani, plans to renew licenses and expand the country’s 3G cellular phone network. A radical MP associated with the conservative Resistance Front, warned: “If the minister continues to go ahead with increasing bandwidth and Internet speed, then we will push for his impeachment and removal from the cabinet.” “We will vigorously prevent all attempts by the [communication] minister to expand 3G technology, and if our warnings are not heeded, then the necessary course of action will be taken,” he added.

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If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797833)

...then there's got to be something to it.

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (5, Informative)

The New Guy 2.0 (3497907) | about three weeks ago | (#47797871)

Religion isn't always right... they don't teach facts, they teach opinions.

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797921)

Stupid opinions based on violent fairy tale books, at that.

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (5, Insightful)

Chas (5144) | about three weeks ago | (#47798003)

HERETIC!

*Chops of "The New Guy's" head*

Respect my peaceful religion! OR ELSE!

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (2)

ThatAblaze (1723456) | about three weeks ago | (#47798037)

Oh no! It's a holy war against the internet!

I wonder how well that will work out. Will the internet fight back?

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (5, Interesting)

sumdumass (711423) | about three weeks ago | (#47798081)

About as well as it did the last time..

You see, letters in the hebrew language are also numbers. There is no W so V is used in it's place or in other words, V and W are interchangeable. It so happens that V is also 6 so when you type www, you are typing 666. That's right, every time to go on the World Wide Web, you are paying homage to the beast.

That was the early rallying cry to why the internet was evil and should be removed. Of course some people who actually knew better checked up on those facts and it turns out a little different. [av1611.org]

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (4, Interesting)

Nyder (754090) | about three weeks ago | (#47798191)

About as well as it did the last time..

You see, letters in the hebrew language are also numbers. There is no W so V is used in it's place or in other words, V and W are interchangeable. It so happens that V is also 6 so when you type www, you are typing 666. That's right, every time to go on the World Wide Web, you are paying homage to the beast.

That was the early rallying cry to why the internet was evil and should be removed. Of course some people who actually knew better checked up on those facts and it turns out a little different. [av1611.org]

Except that 666 isn't the number of the beast, it's actually 616. Google it, number of sources other then the one I put down.

http://theologica.ning.com/pro... [ning.com]

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (3, Insightful)

nitehawk214 (222219) | about three weeks ago | (#47798025)

"isn't always right"

More like "is almost always wrong with few exceptions."

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797957)

I am of the same opinion, and I can provide evidence.

Around 1992-3, the Internet was operating at kB/s. It was fast enough for the Usenet and exchange of texts. There was very little junk, only one virus of note, and people were nice and out of the way to help. It encouraged reading, learning, communicating with real people and, in general, growing. Even slashdot, when it appeared, was interesting. The only thing that would break your concentration were talk (which you could turn off in your .bash_rc) and email.

Fast forward to 2013. The Internet is operating at Gb/s speeds in the civilized countries and at Mb/s everywhere else. Most of the content in porn, spam, fake illegal downloads, various scams and viruses. The chances you'll be talking to a bot that is trying to swindle you out of something are huge. Even if you switch your mobile off, the phones of your wife, kids, dog, colleagues, or other people on the subway continue to beep and annoy. Computers analyze your traffic and try to predict where are you going to spend your money next and make you change your mind.

Amen, Ayatollah, give me back the internet of yore.

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797989)

fake illegal downloads

I'll have you know all my illegal downloads are real and the NSA will back me up on this.

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (2)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | about three weeks ago | (#47798221)

I'll have you know all my illegal downloads are real and the NSA will back me up on this

It's true, it's how we get all our software. And viruses.

But when it comes to Jennifer Lawrence, we choose to go right to the source('s phone). Your stuff is totally boring.

-The NSA

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797997)

I am of the same opinion, and I can provide evidence.

Around 1992-3, the Internet was operating at kB/s. It was fast enough for the Usenet and exchange of texts. There was very little junk, only one virus of note, and people were nice and out of the way to help. It encouraged reading, learning, communicating with real people and, in general, growing. Even slashdot, when it appeared, was interesting. The only thing that would break your concentration were talk (which you could turn off in your .bash_rc) and email.

Fast forward to 2013. The Internet is operating at Gb/s speeds in the civilized countries and at Mb/s everywhere else. Most of the content in porn, spam, fake illegal downloads, various scams and viruses.

It sounds like your browsing habits changed...

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798095)

No, reading material changed. In the golden age of the Internet nobody was discussing the prevalence of porn and spam on the Internets, because people were getting hand jobs from their girlfriends instead of jerking off to moving porn pictures.

Nowadays the topic comes up every few weeks, so it is impossible to not see or unsee.

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798065)

The pope essentially said the same thing recently when he said that young people spend too much time on the Internet.

Religious leaders know that the survival of religion is being threatened by knowledge sharing on the internet, so it shouldn't be any surprise that they would speak out against it.

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (4, Insightful)

pete6677 (681676) | about three weeks ago | (#47798121)

The internet is especially threatening to the Religion of Peace, as it exposes them for who they really are.

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798165)

the survival of religion is being threatened by knowledge sharing on the internet,

By pr0n sharing - maybe. By knowledge sharing - no way, we, who participate in the latter are a small minority and are largely invisible.

Re:If the Grand Ayatollah's against it.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798153)

Internet, and mobile internet in particular is for morally virtuous and educational text and image content like this. [youtube.com]

We need him... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797837)

to implement fair punishments for Wall St bankers.

Re:We need him... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797861)

I feel like I'm being punished by reading your off-topic nonsense. You do know that Madoff is in prison, right?

Re:We need him... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797973)

Yes, but what about Henry Paulson and his colleagues?

Re:We need him... (1)

The New Guy 2.0 (3497907) | about three weeks ago | (#47797865)

Uhm, you're confused bankers on Wall Street are doing just fine moving the cash around... it's the traders instructions they follow, and the traders who are making the mistakes right now.

The difference is.. speed? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797841)

14.4 ackbar? Really?

Re:The difference is.. speed? (1)

The New Guy 2.0 (3497907) | about three weeks ago | (#47797859)

Yep, once we hit 6 Mb per screen we should be all set... that's the speed compressed HD video moves at at most. Anything that moves faster than a 1080p screen can't be represented by humans that fast, until we get to 4Kx1080.

Re:The difference is.. speed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797899)

Yep, once we hit 6 Mb per screen we should be all set... that's the speed compressed HD video moves at at most. Anything that moves faster than a 1080p screen can't be represented by humans that fast, until we get to 4Kx1080.

Unless you're downloading large files and not streaming them.

Re:The difference is.. speed? (1)

The New Guy 2.0 (3497907) | about three weeks ago | (#47797983)

If you download at 12 Mb while you sleep, you'll spend all your waking day watching what you got.

Re:The difference is.. speed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798005)

The largest files I've downloaded are not movies but games and operating system installers -- streaming them won't do me any good.

Anything that wrests away control (5, Insightful)

Khyber (864651) | about three weeks ago | (#47797843)

You already know they don't like this because it takes away their control over a population.

Of course they count it against their religion of control and abuse.

Re:Anything that wrests away control (2)

DigiShaman (671371) | about three weeks ago | (#47798083)

Duh! No different than Communism controlling religion. It's all about monopolizing focus and control in the hearts of man. Everything else is a threat to that goal.

Re:Anything that wrests away control (4, Insightful)

fermion (181285) | about three weeks ago | (#47798199)

so the same as any religious zealot, like the Christians in the US who are willing to spend any amount of money and support any amount of censorship to insure that a child never sees a picture of a breast.

The key bit (5, Informative)

cold fjord (826450) | about three weeks ago | (#47797851)

The key bit FTA is here:

“All third generation [3G] and high-speed internet services, prior to realization of the required conditions for the National Information Network [Iran’s government-controlled and censored Internet which is under development], is against Sharia [and] against moral and human standards.”

In short the position is that if you have freedom you will abuse it. That's overall pretty similar to the thinking of al Qaida and ISIS. Strike up the banjos and play "Dueling Theocracy!" Oops, sorry, no music allowed. Or kite flying.

Re:The key bit (2)

The New Guy 2.0 (3497907) | about three weeks ago | (#47797875)

Those who are wrong hate communication because it allows the good-doers to take over.

Re:The key bit (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | about three weeks ago | (#47798099)

It's pretty fucked up when the US may actually side and assist Iran in stomping out ISIS. It truly is an act of choosing the lesser evil???

Re:The key bit (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798193)

When you consider that the US sided with Saddam Hussein to contain Iran, you begin to realize that such things are possible.

Re:The key bit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798213)

Evil can never be stomped out, it is an intrinsic property of being human. Only a complete extinction will stomp out evil.

Re:The key bit (1)

siddesu (698447) | about three weeks ago | (#47798177)

In short the position is that if you have freedom you will abuse it.

It is a universally acknowledged government problem. Governments are known to have built 'free speech zones' to deal with the issue.

Re:The key bit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798179)

> In short the position is that if you have freedom you will abuse it.

That's the position of all authoritarian governments everywhere. Even the secular ones.

It'll lead to dancing (1)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798201)

Yeah, well, that's pretty much the philosophy of a lot of religions. That it's better to prevent sin by removing temptation. That the "weaker" folk will give in and those "evil" sinners are more likely to lure in the good souls to sin than the good souls will lead the sinners to redemption--probably true, but then that's a whole other area to talk about*. Of course the real point is that Iran is a theocracy and not a democracy. The similarities to al Qaida and ISIS on religions matters are really moot in themselves--as honestly there's a good many Christians who obviously think the same way about the internet and porn but the name dropping of Catholics or Mennonites doesn't have the same guilt-by-association. What does matter is that Iran is clearly not moving towards a democracy, which is no real big surprise. *shrug* So, not really news.

* Those without the character to resist sin are damned. Except Jesus specifically conserved with, converted, and saved sinners. So, Godly enough people should be capable of resisting and doing right by God. But most people don't follow religion out of some deep spiritual belief but because there's an almost de facto theocracy of the masses and it's better to be on the good side of that mob, at least in appearances. The openly atheists and agnostics, meanwhile, have an actual theological basis to reject the notions and aren't merely doing what the want and paying lip service. Although it's hard to say at what point everyone is just rationalizing their own actions after the fact rather than reasoning their way to the point they're at. The ones who chuckle to themselves about going to hell? I think very few actually embrace going to hell.

Re:The key bit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798205)

> In short the position is that if you have freedom you will abuse it. That's overall pretty similar to the thinking of al Qaida and ISIS.

This is the same core idea used to justify drug and weapon prohibitions in the west. It's far from unique to the mideast, the only difference is the material or resource they're attempting to control.

Maybe it would be good if the Ayatollah wins? (5, Interesting)

ikedasquid (1177957) | about three weeks ago | (#47797855)

Imagine if 3G (and "4G") was found to somehow be illegal in the US - I think there'd be a revolt. A good enough chunk of the nation expects to get FB updates and cat vids on demand anywhere they go. Maybe Iran is the same? It seems backwards, but I think this is the kind of thing that gets the average person to actually care about something. No cat vids = Arab spring in Iran? Maybe?

Re:Maybe it would be good if the Ayatollah wins? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797903)

No cat vids = Arab spring in Iran? Maybe?

Because that has worked out so well for everyone in the rest of the countries?

I get where you are going with it, but the only good that might do is put a minor delay in their nuclear efforts. The after effects could be much worse.

Re:Maybe it would be good if the Ayatollah wins? (1)

ikedasquid (1177957) | about three weeks ago | (#47797935)

You've got a point there. The summary article on Wikipedia has 21 nations listed as having some kind of Arab spring activity, but only 3 with good-ish outcomes.

Next way-out-there question: The US is pretty tired of middle east involvements right now...but if there was a significant revolt in Iran, would the US jump in? Fund rebels? Deliver arms?

Re:Maybe it would be good if the Ayatollah wins? (4, Interesting)

dryeo (100693) | about three weeks ago | (#47798197)

You mean like in Syria where the end result has been ISIS? The Iranian people are actually moving towards more freedom on their own. They've voted in a pretty liberal (for that part of the world) President, they have more religious freedoms then most of that part of the world and isn't much different in some ways as American allies such as Saudi Arabia where they have morals police who will execute you on the spot and women have even less rights then Iranian women.
It's all a weird game where our friends are just as bad as our enemies, just that there is a lot of propaganda from both sides.

Re:Maybe it would be good if the Ayatollah wins? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797941)

It would be more like if municipal wifi or fiber were declared to be illegal.

Re: Maybe it would be good if the Ayatollah wins? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798067)

You mean how every current corporate ISP is trying to make them? ;-)

This will be hugely popular. (5, Funny)

mikeabbott420 (744514) | about three weeks ago | (#47797863)

Young and old we all hate fast internet connections the way seals hate fish.

Re:This will be hugely popular. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797881)

Young and old we all hate fast internet connections the way seals hate fish.

... and we need comments from the Grand Poohbah (sorry, Ayatollah) on this subject the way a fish needs a bicycle.

Re:This will be hugely popular. (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about three weeks ago | (#47797933)

Ms. Steinem, I'd been told you were dead!

Re:This will be hugely popular. (1)

ComputersKai (3499237) | about three weeks ago | (#47798043)

Obviously Grand Ayatollah has never experience the horror of Steam downloads.

Maybe now the Republicans... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797867)

will be for faster Internet. I know with their rule here in Seattle, Internet access is pitiful. I have 192 kbps at home and many of my friends are still stuck on dial-up. The DINOs that run this city hate the Internet and are doing everything they can to keep us from having it.

Democrats rule Seattle (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797887)

Seattle has had Democratic mayors for more than 20 years you stupid troll.

Re:Democrats rule Seattle (1)

pete6677 (681676) | about three weeks ago | (#47798129)

This stupid Republican troll once blamed Republicans for rent increases in San Francisco! As if Republicans have any power there whatsoever.

Re:Maybe now the Republicans... (1)

greenwow (3635575) | about three weeks ago | (#47797907)

The "director's rules" here in Seattle prevent upgrades. There is no city in this country that has a law that is more Republican than that. It puts the whims of one person ahead of the common good. That is the way of Republicans. They rule this city with an iron fist. I only have 576kbps at home, but it's faster than all but one of my friends. When you let Republican ideas rule your city, this is what happens.

Shoo troll, go away! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797945)

It is hard to have laws written by Republicans if you keep electing Democrats. Seattle has had Democrats for mayors for decades. This is a bit of Democratic folly, and you're apparently stuck telling not just lies, but obvious stupid lies.

The current Democratic mayor is thinking about changing it, but he might not. Enjoy your Democratic party in action!

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/s... [geekwire.com]

Backwards savages, wanting to remain backwards? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797873)

You don't say?

High Speed Internet Is "Against Moron Standards." (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797877)

He clearly meant to say this, but Persian is tricky.

Then... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797893)

If my connection sucks means my morality is immaculate? I'm feeling like a saint already.

I hope they don't have Comcast... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797897)

... just wait until they try to cancel.

"Against Moral Standards?" Or Just Your Backers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797905)

Maybe the Ayatollah is on the payroll of Comcast

I can't believe we're afraid of these assholes (1)

MAXOMENOS (9802) | about three weeks ago | (#47797911)

Iran's government is fighting over whether or not to implement rusting-edge technology, with calls for impeachment if they go ahead. It's like they WANT to remain in the 8th Century. Why is it exactly that we're afraid of them?

Re:I can't believe we're afraid of these assholes (5, Insightful)

bloodhawk (813939) | about three weeks ago | (#47797967)

They aren't the only country wanting to remain in the 8th century, their are still supposedly modern countries that ban teaching or evolution and insist on teaching their kids at school creationism.

Re:I can't believe we're afraid of these assholes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797993)

You will have few useful insights if you focus on the wrong data, as you are.

Re:I can't believe we're afraid of these assholes (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | about three weeks ago | (#47798117)

Except for the fact Iran is trying to go back to the 8th century using 21 century technology to get there, and ostensibly taking the entire world back with it!

Well, I'm sure our drill bits can go through glass just as well as sand.

Re:I can't believe we're afraid of these assholes (1)

Nemyst (1383049) | about three weeks ago | (#47798223)

I know you mean the US, but the difference is that the US has left the 8th century. A small minority seems adamant in getting them back to the dark ages, but there's a wide chasm between that and the poor souls of the Middle East. To conflate the two and pretend otherwise hinders both issues.

Re:I can't believe we're afraid of these assholes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798061)

Because the technology required to make a basic nuclear fission bomb does not require internet access, and people with the delusion of divine authority are much more likely to use it.

Re:I can't believe we're afraid of these assholes (3)

schnell (163007) | about three weeks ago | (#47798119)

It's like they WANT to remain in the 8th Century. Why is it exactly that we're afraid of them?

Because while they're eager to keep an 8th century moral code (and dress code for women), they seem decidedly more modern in their choice of military forces [wikipedia.org] and interest (but not yet attainment of) nuclear weapons [wikipedia.org] .

Because, you know, when you're the Grand Ayatollah, some "Bikinis" are OK [wikipedia.org] but definitely not others [victoriassecret.com] .

You have to define your premise... (5, Insightful)

Karmashock (2415832) | about three weeks ago | (#47797913)

First... moral standards are "his" moral standards.

Second, internet in general connects his people to the world... exposing them to other view points that might distort their indoctrination to his world view.

So what he is saying is "the people of my country might not believe in my values if exposed to alternative view points."

Which is rational. They probably won't. His world view is pretty weak on logic, argument, or supporting evidence. Its just do what I say or the sharp knives come out.

COMCAST AGREES (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797915)

this explains everything

UNCENSORED high-speed internet (5, Funny)

Namarrgon (105036) | about three weeks ago | (#47797919)

I accidentally RTFA'd and realised the fatwa is actually against high-speed internet that isn't government controlled and censored:

All third generation [3G] and high-speed internet services, prior to realization of the required conditions for the National Information Network [Iran’s government-controlled and censored Internet which is under development], is against Sharia [and] against moral and human standards.

Thus I conclude that internet porn is just fine, so long as it's consumed slowly, scanline by scanline. He clearly wants you to enjoy the anticipation.

Re:UNCENSORED high-speed internet (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about three weeks ago | (#47798149)

Or maybe is just a fan of ASCII art [asciiworld.com] .

Wait a minute (5, Interesting)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about three weeks ago | (#47797923)

Where in the Koran does it mention bandwidth? or the speed in which information is made available, since it has nothing to do with what information is available, just the connection speed?

Re:Wait a minute (1)

The New Guy 2.0 (3497907) | about three weeks ago | (#47797971)

All of the religious texts exist because of the Gutenberg press concepts... first thing mass printed was The Bible, then people who couldn't agree with it started printing their own.

Re:Wait a minute (1)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798045)

let's destroy all the printing presses so that this will never happen again!

what section is restricted? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797931)

This will mean the general population will have restricted speed internet but the ruling class, the government and the military will still be working with speeds as fast as they can muster. It's the usual dual standard applied in all tyrannies.

They're not going to let the people have the freedom they deserve but they cannot afford to become weakened where exposed to the outside world.

And the lord said unto them... (4, Funny)

RalphBNumbers (655475) | about three weeks ago | (#47797939)

64kb/s ought to be enough for anybody.

Re:And the lord said unto them... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798147)

For $59 a month, I'm sure Comcast can market a Halal connection for 64kb/s. Act now, and receive a free burka! Whooo.

High Speed Internet Against Moral Standards? (4, Funny)

jamesjw (213986) | about three weeks ago | (#47797947)

Quick!, Get the Australian Government on the phone, slow national broadband is their policy!
Mr Malcolm Turnbull, We have a sale for your broadband plan.. Iran is interested in your vision!! :)

Great, (4, Funny)

mjwx (966435) | about three weeks ago | (#47797953)

So Comcast is just trying to protect our moral integrity?

Re:Great, (1)

The New Guy 2.0 (3497907) | about three weeks ago | (#47797991)

Comcast aims to be a common carrier which means they don't censor their system unless some court tells them to.

Oblig J&M (1)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797965)

here [jesusandmo.net]

3G is bad... (1)

dlingman (1757250) | about three weeks ago | (#47797977)

So - straight to LTE then? I don't blame him for saying 3G is not a good idea. much better tech is out there already. why waste time on 3G?

Even in Iran... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797979)

"A Grand Ayatollah in Iran has determined that access to high-speed and 3G Internet is "against Sharia" and "against moral standards."

I guess I shouldn't be shocked that the cable companies even have lobbyists in Iran!

allah f-s kids (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47797995)

But sex with a 2 year old is perfectly OK. Hmm, maybe those boys are onto something... wait no, I mean on something.

Low Speed Strangulation is OK, though (1)

BoRegardless (721219) | about three weeks ago | (#47798011)

Torture is OK in Iran.

You know... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798019)

Someday we will have to get rid of the muslims from the planet.

They are not compatable with the rest of the people on earth.

The longer we wait. The harder it will be to do.

Temptation (4, Interesting)

jklovanc (1603149) | about three weeks ago | (#47798033)

It is interesting that one of the basis of most religions is the freedom to choose. Most religions allow people to choose to do good or choose not to. Why does the Muslim religion seem to want to control everything? Conversion by force, death sentence for converting to another religion, hiding women's bodies so not to tempt men and now censorship. What would a religion have to force it's followers to conform? What proves a person's faith is the ability to resist temptation. Look at the trials of Job. If the people need to be "protected" from temptation then their faith is weak.

Ayatollah is right! (1)

VTBlue (600055) | about three weeks ago | (#47798069)

The Ayatollah speaks the truth. Just look at America. Everywhere there is broadband, heathens have flourished, while is REAL America, where dial-up reigns, people are living nobly under god's laws and the Bible. Preach it Brother Ayatollah! AMEN!

Look out Brian Roberts! (1)

SeaFox (739806) | about three weeks ago | (#47798077)

Someone's after your job.

Pay attention! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798087)

After the ongoing metastatic infiltration of the US and Europe is complete, sharia law will be a reality across the West. You will need to take heed of these pronouncements, to avoid being hanged/beheaded, or parts chopped off.

You mean the same guy the CIA put in power? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798107)

You mean the same guy the CIA put in power?

Just nuke them already (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798125)

Grand-Idiot Ayatollah, Sharia and Islamic State are against moral standards.
Just nuke these animals already.
And intern sharia supporters and non-working muslims in civilized countries.

Re:Just nuke them already (1)

Livius (318358) | about three weeks ago | (#47798225)

Just nuke these animals already.

I'm pretty sure that solution also has moral implications.

Educate or eradicate (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798127)

Education has clearly failed and these folks won't/can't be brought to modern standards. Can we eradicate them all instead? A few nukes and they'll be gone... and there won't even be the opportunity for videos of their deaths to spread. We'll all be much better off without them. Telling yourself otherwise is just you believing in the same made up stuff that they do.

Re:Educate or eradicate (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798159)

They create more suffering each day by just existing, when implementing and executing their sharia law.
Nuke would be humanitarian compared to what they do daily to innocent people.

I didn't realize they have Concast in Iraq! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798163)

The Ayatollah definitely has a future here in the states!!! Next Concast CEO perhaps?

USA is morally safe. (1)

hackus (159037) | about three weeks ago | (#47798173)

Between COX, Time Warner and Charter we should be safe from High Speed Internets evil influences for the foreseeable future..

Didn't they get the memo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about three weeks ago | (#47798187)

In the middle God said let there be 3G.

Captcha:embassy
Not where I'd want to be after this comment.

Same thing from ultra-orthodox Jews. (4, Informative)

Animats (122034) | about three weeks ago | (#47798195)

Many ultra-orthodox rabbis who demand their followers not use uncensored smartphones or uncensored internet access. In 2012, a big anti-Internet rally for ultra-orthodox Jews was held in New York. [nytimes.com] "The siren song of the Internet entices us! It brings out the worst of us!" The event was streamed live and is summarized on YouTube. [youtube.com]

There are ultra-orthodox ISPs with filtering. The filtering is very stringent, [yeshivanet.com] based on a rabbi-approved whitelist. "That's all you get, and nothing else."

There are kosher cell phones [venishmartem.com] . "Kosher Phone has no camera, no Bluetooth capabilities, no memory card slot and cannot be connected to a computer."

That's in the US. In Israel, kosher cell phones are so locked down that only approved numbers can be called. Even rape crisis centers are blocked. [ynetnews.com]

On the bright side (1)

Livius (318358) | about three weeks ago | (#47798209)

At least there is a political disagreement and (a small number of government) people are talking about the issue.

It's scarier when you remember that Iran is a liberal democracy compared to some countries (Saudi Arabia).

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