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Google "Evicted" the Berlin Wall From Property It Bought 59

theodp writes Sunday marks the 25th Anniversary of the Fall of the Berlin Wall, which Google commemorates in today's Doodle. "Seeking inspiration for this doodle," notes the Google Doodle Team, "we took a short bike ride from our Mountain View, California headquarters to our local public library to study an actual piece of the Berlin Wall" (the Berlin Wall segments are featured in the Doodle). Interestingly, the post doesn't mention Google's connection to how the two sections of the Berlin Wall wound up at the library. After Google bought the Bayside Business Plaza in 2012, where the 12-foot-tall remnants had been kept for decades by German-born businessman Frank Golzen before his death, it reportedly gave the Golzen family until summer 2013 to get the Berlin Wall off its lawn. "Although the donating family has until next summer to remove the installation from the current location," reads a 2012 City of Mountain View Staff Report, "their preference (and the preference of the new owner of the property) is to remove it sooner." A recommendation to relocate the seven ton concrete slabs to remote Charleston Park, adjacent to the Googleplex, was nixed by the City Council, who voted instead to move the Berlin Wall sections to its current home in front of a downtown public library.
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Google "Evicted" the Berlin Wall From Property It Bought

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  • by Frosty Piss ( 770223 ) * on Sunday November 09, 2014 @07:50PM (#48347279)

    So, Google bought a building and gosh wanted something that didn't come with the purchase removed from the building? HORRORS! Just more evidence of megalomania by the Google twins Larry and Sergey... Same, shame, shame...

    • by Anonymous Coward

      "Something" in this case isn't an old Camaro on blocks, it's a piece of historical construction with the blood of citizens on it. Maybe you don't care. Some do.

      • Re:Good grief... (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Frosty Piss ( 770223 ) * on Sunday November 09, 2014 @08:25PM (#48347429)

        "Something" in this case isn't an old Camaro on blocks, it's a piece of historical construction with the blood of citizens on it.

        None the less, it didn't come with the purchase of the building. Thus, Google is correct in asserting that a proper home not in Google's building is appropriate.

        This has exactly nothing to do with if or not Google has, as a company, any opinion about this valuable and note-worthy artifact.

        By the way, I own a "vintage" and pristine Trabant (really!) ... May I store it in your garage for an undetermined amount of time rent free? You don't really need that space, right?

        • by Anonymous Coward

          By the way, I own a [...] Trabant

          I think you have bigger problems than having a bloody bit of concrete. You've got a functional deathtrap.

          doors made of Duroplast. Duroplast was a hard plastic (similar to Bakelite) made of recycled materials: cotton waste from the Soviet Union and phenol resins from the East German dye industry

          Because the car lacked a fuel pump, the fuel tank had to be placed above the motor in the engine compartment so that fuel could be fed to the carburetor by gravity

          the smoky exhaust and the pollution it produced – nine times the hydrocarbons and five times the carbon monoxide emissions of the average European car of 2007

          And, last, but not least:

          The Trabant was the result of a planning process that had originally intended to design a three-wheeled motorcycle.

          No wonder. They couldn't even get the number of wheels right!

        • Also, they didn't ask to leave it there, so it doesn't seem it was ever even discussed to leave it there. They sold the property not including the wall for the express purpose of keeping the wall and moving it to a public location. It isn't surprising or notable that they would want extra time, as it is a large installation, and nor is it surprising or notable that the people taking over the property would prefer it moved sooner.

        • by LWATCDR ( 28044 )

          And if the Camaro was 69 zl-1 with matching numbers or a pre 1970 Z/28 I would take it in a heart beat.

      • "Something" in this case isn't an old Camaro on blocks, it's a piece of historical construction with the blood of citizens on it.

        Which might mean something, if its location at the time had anything to do with its history; it did not; the wall never divided Silicon Valley.

        • Which might mean something, if its location at the time had anything to do with its history; it did not; the wall never divided Silicon Valley.

          That's a little silly. The wall never divided south London, either, but a huge piece stands in front of the Imperial War Museum in Lambeth.

          Also the wall never divided Burbank from Toluca Lake, but a piece of it was mounted right on the Warner Bros. lot, right across the street from the Starbucks and the Steve Ross memorial, where every employee on the lot will see i

  • Get off my lawn!

  • by Fwipp ( 1473271 ) on Sunday November 09, 2014 @08:33PM (#48347445)

    "Mr Golzen, please relocate this wall."

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Google is breaking down walls on how people connect to the world around them every day. Having this piece of history "on the lawn" seems like it'd be a good mission statement even Google isn't too dense to pass up.

    I bet there is something to the story not being told, probably that the owners of said wall wanted Google to pay a yearly fee of some kind to keep it and Google simply said no, and you have until XXXX date to remove it now.

    • by Andy Dodd ( 701 )

      Based on other comments:

      Google bought the building, but the owners did NOT want to sell the wall pieces to Google. The owners WANTED to move them to a more public place.

      However, since moving gigantic slabs of concrete and finding a proper place for them is difficult, the owners asked for time to move the items in question after the sale.

  • Okay - there are plenty of segments of Wall still around if people want to see them. Many exactly where they were built. These aren't part of that. They're just collectables. Google has no interest in these colectables and doesn't want to store them for someone else. It's up to the owners to put them somewhere they are wanted
  • Google hate. Again. (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 10, 2014 @05:54AM (#48348765)

    Yet another piece of Google hate gets posted on /. *Sigh*

    Disregarding the accusatory tone of the article, let's look at the facts:
    - Private company bought property in history-rich city.
    - Said property contained ruins of that city's history.
    - New owner didn't want the ruins in the property (because it didn't want the responsibility of taking care of it, or simply because it didn't like it).
    - New owner offered to allow said ruins to remain for a period of time until a safe removal could be performed (to preserve said ruin's historical value) bus asked that it be expedited.

    I don't see anything wrong. It's not like there are only 3 original pieces of the Berlin wall left, or that it's the first time they've been moved. Hell, there's a piece of it in front of the American consulate in Munich.
    In case you're not aware, the "Berlin wall" nowadays is actually few scattered concrete slabs: http://content.answcdn.com/mai... [answcdn.com]
    There are only a few places in Berlin where it actually still looks like a wall, but everywhere else has been removed and replaced with a line marking the original location.

    I guess Americans can be excused for not understanding this, but in Europe there's so much history that if you were to treat every single ruin as some sort of sacred cow society would just grind to a halt.
    Instead, what we do is to strike a compromise between preserving our legacy and develop towards the future. In that sense, moving a slab of concrete to a new location is a completely acceptable solution.

    • by Andy Dodd ( 701 )

      Also, if I am understanding various things I've read correctly:

      Owners of the slabs did NOT want to sell the slabs to Google (Google was fine with this)
      Owners of the slabs WANTED to move the slabs to a more public place (Google was fine with this)
      Owners of the slabs asked Google for some time to figure out how to move/where to move two gigantic concrete slabs (Google gave them this time)

      What I'm not sure of is whether the owners took longer than expected to move the slabs than Google originally agreed to, le

  • Google: "Mr. Golzen, tear down this wall!"

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