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China Lays More Fiber, Improving Physical Connection To the Worldwide Internet 44

Posted by timothy from the better-tapping-points dept.
jfruh writes China's state-owned Internet service providers are improving the nation's connection to the worldwide Internet, adding seven new access points to the world's Internet backbone to improve speed and reliability for Chinese customers. This reveals the nation's essential Internet contradiction, improving its physical connection even as the government continues to block a number of important Intenet sites.
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China Lays More Fiber, Improving Physical Connection To the Worldwide Internet

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  • China has the largest population of internet users. Despite apparent continued attempts to censor what their citizens have access to, the Chinese are very interested in extending international market share of their three state-owned internet companies.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by NotDrWho ( 3543773 )

      I was worried about it, but I talked to China and they told me that their penises were so small, and assured me that my American penis was VERY large in comparison. This went on for a while and pretty soon I realized that they weren't any kind of threat after all.

    • China has the largest population of internet users. Despite apparent continued attempts to censor what their citizens have access to, the Chinese are very interested in extending international market share of their three state-owned internet companies.

      I read it as "China is enhancing the speed at which they can control the internet within their borders."

    • More likely they're wanting to increase their ability to commit cyber-espionage and cyber-terrorism and figure they need the extra bandwidth to do that.

  • Not just provide better access for domestic users.

  • new chinese saying (Score:5, Funny)

    by itchybrain ( 2538928 ) * on Thursday January 15, 2015 @10:02AM (#48818913)

    Confucius says:

    "Sparkling light carries filtered wisdom. A house with no doors enters no one."

  • China Lays More Cable (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    For all the sh*t coming out of China, the article should be labeled, "China Lays More Cable"

  • I know this is OT. What the heck happened? Using two different browsers, Slashdot's page formatting is suddenly a mess. What happened?
  • Slashdot now looks like a grey pile of shit.
  • You just have to be practical about it instead of dogmatic and mix it with capitalism where needed.
    Sure China is a way too communistic and controlling for my taste, but the stupendous US dogma where capitalism and religion are supposed to magically fix everything is no better.
    Funny how China has better internet than the US.

  • Still not enough bandwidth for Youtube or Google.

  • Perhaps more for the ROW to connect to China. Dirt-cheap cloud services, anyone?

    .

  • While this is purely speculation, could China be aiming to offer itself as a global (or even regional) interconnect? Or is the the ability to play NSA-like games on international traffic within home-borders just not a realistic possibility anymore?

    I'm thinking of how a "Chinese" error (in Germany) caused traffic between two Russian cities to be directed out-of-country (see http://research.dyn.com/2014/1... [dyn.com] ).

    I can take the tin-foil hat off anytime I want to, but I really do like the propeller beanie.

  • It is getting worse, not better (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 15, 2015 @10:56AM (#48819365)

    I'm in Guangzhou and can tell you it is worse than ever. Since last June, the connection between China and the rest of the world has become progressively worse and worse, almost to the point of being unusable today. I think something must be lost in translation. They didn't increase the bandwidth, it seems like they increased the amount of bandwidth they can filter. Everyone I know in the export business is having major internet problems now. The inability to do email, exchange files, collaborate, and protect our data is killing business. We and many others are seriously considering if it is worth it to continue to tolerate these small minded Chinese communists. The cost for us to make our products in several other Asian countries is already comparable to China now. The exodus has already begun.

    • HK-Based VPNs cut it for me. I haven't had any issues, and I've been in GZ for 16 months. The inability to do email, exchange files, collaborate, and protect your data is your fault though.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Yeah they work great. Oh wait, they don't... The great firewall now has active VPN detection. PPTP is completely blocked. OpenVPN and LT2P are automatically detected and throttled, with continuous connection resets. If you use the same VPN server too much, it gets perma-blocked. The only good thing I can say is this is motivating creative nerds to develop new technology that is very difficult or impossible to block. There are a number of new distributed proxy-like applications already in beta. If we

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by Agripa ( 139780 )

          OpenVPN and LT2P are automatically detected and throttled, with continuous connection resets.

          I understand the problem with TCP but how do they reset an OpenVPN tunnel over UDP?

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Your full of it. We have an office in Shenzhen we have had HK based VPS servers VPN tunnels, the speed up doesn't happen if you need speed for a webserver in the chinese market it has to be in china and that means ICP license and all the bull that goes with it.

        We try and sync data between offices, our Shenzhen office is just abysmal even though we are paying thousands for a fibre connection as soon as you try and go somewhere outside of china it crawls. We wrap VPN's within SSL tunnels in an effort to kee

  • This has nothing to do with their population. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Puls4r ( 724907 ) on Thursday January 15, 2015 @11:15AM (#48819575)
    China is preparing for a cyber war. They've watched what happened to North Korea. Having more direct connections to the net both prevents you from being DDOS'd as easily and allows you to counterattack. It's a simple numbers game. The person with the biggest pipe is going to end up winning the fight.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      China is preparing for a cyber war. They've watched what happened to North Korea. Having more direct connections to the net both prevents you from being DDOS'd as easily and allows you to counterattack. It's a simple numbers game. The person with the biggest pipe is going to end up winning the fight.

      Doubt it. NK has barely any internet presence - you can probably count the number of hosts based on NK. All the DDoS meant was well, the Glorious Leader missed out on cat videos for the day essentially.

      And NK do

  • Fiber? (Score:3)

    by LynnwoodRooster ( 966895 ) on Thursday January 15, 2015 @01:09PM (#48821097) Journal
    Yeah, usually more fiber means you lay more cable...
  • As someone who recently lived in China for a couple of years I can tell you it is a complete waste of time. The Internet in China is so badly broken it is an open joke and it must be holding back the development of China. When you dig into the problem you quickly discover ALL your traffic passes through a single IP address, which I assume is the Great Firewall of China. This IP address not only makes your routes longer and traffic flow slower it also breaks different traffic types in different way depend
  • My auth.log is crammed on a daily basis with access attempts from .cn addresses.
    It would be hard to be taken seriously as a cyber superpower if one strike could sever your connection to the internet. This is just redundancy.

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