Rome Police Use Twitter To Battle Illegal Parking 157
cartechboy writes "Illegal parking has always been a major problem in Rome. More than half of Rome's 2.7 million residents use private vehicles, and the ancient city has a staggering ratio of 70 cars per 100 residents. So many residents park, uh, creatively. But now authorities think they've found a way to fight bad parking using social media. Basically, they've asked residents to post photos of bad parking jobs to Twitter. In December, the Italian cops began encouraging smart phone users to snap pics of illegally parked cars and tweet those photos to the department's Twitter account. The new system, which was created by Raffaele Clemente, Rome's chief of traffic police, seems to be working. In the first 30 days, police received more than 1,000 complaints tweeted to their account; (one example is here). Officials were able to respond to around 740 and hand out citations."
Yea... Good Luck With That. (Score:2, Funny)
Hey, 'your car is being towed' is trending!
#StupidShitPeopleThinkIsSmart #FAIL
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#StupidShitPeopleThinkIsSmart #FAIL
Indeed. Classic case of treating the symptom rather than the cause.
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That rather depends on where you define symptom and cause, sometimes the only practical action that can be taken is to address something part way down the chain. Is the 'cause' that everyone isn't able to walk to everything they need? Or would you say the cause was just that there isn't enough parking?
In this case, even if we take "there isn't enough parking" as the cause this may well still address it. Perhaps the cost of converting la
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they're italian.
a good "cause" for them to park wherever the fuck they happen to want is that it's tuesday.
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now it will be a competition. get a picture of your car posted, parked in the most outrageous position possible.
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Town planning - lack of. (Score:5, Insightful)
What irks me is the lack of town planning for cars in European cities then the incompetent authorities act like it is all the citizens fault. I get that they have ancient medieval town centers that are almost impossible to modify - but that is no excuse for not providing adequate amounts of free to almost free just out-of-town parking and efficient cheap public transport into the centers (efficient does not mean it has to be profitable in the direct sense).
Singapore for example with so little space has pioneered high rise cheap parking for all out in the suburbs and electronic pay to enter town centers that really increased the quality of life in the inner city, or so I hear.
Don't get me started on the last century traffic lights on timers and no trigger sensors of any kind in sight even at the pedestrian crossings. Christmas lights I like to call them. The amount of petrol they must waste stopping scores of cars for no reason must be mind-boggling.
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That's because most town planning like this is run by civil engineers. And not just any civil engineer... civil engineers that couldn't find jobs in the private sector and work for the government. The gutter trash of the engineering world.
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It does seem awfully short-sighted of the Rome city planners to have not provided more parking spaces downtown when they laid it out in the 8th century.
Re:Town planning - lack of. (Score:5, Insightful)
What irks me is the lack of town planning for cars in European cities then the incompetent authorities act like it is all the citizens fault.
First, those towns were planned when there were no cars at all. Second, some towns tried to restructure itself into a more car friendly town, and the result was a less human friendly town. For some reasons, the most searched for towns are those with a horrible parking situation. So blame who you want, towns with a not adequate parking situation fare better in general, because they seem to get the general idea how to operate a town, and one aspect seems to not concentrate on cars too much.
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But the issue with Rome is the people that live there and the cars they drive - I highly doubt they would be interested in out of town park and rides.
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If there were good public transit, and secure long-term storage places (wherre, e.g., the battery could be kept charged) then they might be interested. Particularly if sensible parking regulations were enforced. This, however, looks like putting enforcement before the alternative. OTOH, it's a Slashdot summary, so who knows what's really going on.
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I highly doubt they would be interested in out of town park and rides.
When there is no longer the option of "creative parking" - then all that is left would be interest in parking somewhere convenient. Living in European cities I have had to park suburbs away from the apartment, and even then it was a hit and miss affair due to lack of town planning.
Re:Town planning - lack of. (Score:5, Informative)
You keep thinking like this is the US where literally no one lives in the center which is composed of office spaces. This is not the case in European cities. Many people live in the center and quite often their building has no parking space at all. Because it was built in the XIXth century or whatever when people did not need such things. And the streets are often narrow because horses needed less space to move around.
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One solution, which Copenhagen has adopted, is to reduce how necessary it is to park anywhere at all. If you live in the center, of course you have no need for a car: you can bike, bus, walk, or metro anywhere you need to go. If you live out of the center, you also have no need for a car, because you can bike, bus, or walk to the nearest S-train stop, which by design [wikipedia.org] will not be far away, and take that right into the city.
As a result of that, plus high taxes on car ownership to further disincentivize it, Co
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Wish I had a handy copy of a picture I took of a bike in Rome. It was locked to a post, but not tightly enough to avoid being run over by a lorry and turned into a banana chair.
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He's saying that it *is* an excuse. Just because he disagrees with you does not mean he's ignoring what you're saying.
Re:Town planning - lack of. (Score:5, Insightful)
Whie I entirely aggree with you that the main problem comes from the city lacking the proper parking spaces, that makes it no excuse to park like a complete douche.
Re:Town planning - lack of. (Score:5, Interesting)
You're not looking hard enough. Most of the major cities I've driven to in the EU (Belgium and the Netherlands, primarily, over five years) had significant parking on the outskirts of town (never free, land costs money) near the end of the city metro lines. Drop the car there, take the tram, and enjoy a city built at a human scale. Or even better, take the train right into downtown.
I've moved back to the US recently, and I dearly miss those compact cities. I'm in a small city in Georgia now and it's disgusting how much prime downtown space is wasted on empty parking lots. I'd much rather have no parking at all rather than too much, as then you can at least walk or bike.
Traffic lights is a different matter, and apparently depends on your driving style. I never had a problem flowing through light after light back home, but here I'm constantly being stopped. I'm sure I'll eventually get used to the timing here, as you would over there.
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Ah, I've never driven that far south, so you could be right in that.
In any case, there's always hope that as gas becomes more expensive, municipalities will pay more attention to planning for traffic. Europe will have to build higher, and the US more compactly I think. Otherwise I guess we could always move to Singapore, enjoy the growth that part of the world is experiencing.
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Screw that. It's 10 degrees currently and we're suppose to get 6-8" of snow . I'm not walking/biking in that.
Maybe that works for you when you shut down the city/town when there's a flurry in the air. That doesn't work here.
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We rarely got 6-8" in Belgium, but usually at least an inch or two, and I've biked through that many times. It's simply a matter of clearing the sidewalks and bike path as well, and not only the road.
Dunno what kind of car you have, but unless it's a truck it probably can't handle half a foot of uncleared snow very well either.
And 10 F isn't bad, as long as you dress for it.
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??? If you don't have the lights timed, then you can't design to allow flow. It just doesn't work. Even with timed lights it's quite difficult to have good flow in two different directions. (You *can* do it if you'ver very careful about the timing...or if you allow the flow to be broken around every 10 blocks...and only have about one street out of 10 timed for flow.) Note that even so if you want flow in two orthogonal directions, you may need to be very careful with the speeds that you allow to flow.
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So with the advantage of planning for automobiles the US has managed to screw up traffic far more than countries that never planned for it at all?
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Don't get me started on the last century traffic lights on timers and no trigger sensors of any kind in sight even at the pedestrian crossings. Christmas lights I like to call them. The amount of petrol they must waste stopping scores of cars for no reason must be mind-boggling.
If they make driving too convenient, then people will drive more often and farther away, which would consume even more petrol than idling at a traffic light occasionally.
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Last time I drove in London, I took about an hour to cover one mile. Solely because, when my light went green, the light ahead was still red, so there was only space for one or two cars to move forward during the green part of the cycle. As soon as we got past the last traffic light and onto the main road, we were doing 40mph within seconds.
Fortunately, 'congestion charging' will clearly solve that.
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Re:Town planning - lack of. (Score:4, Insightful)
The European design wastes a lot less petrol than the American design, because you can get around and do a lot without even getting into the car. It is a local inefficiency as a trade-off for a higher-level efficiency. In America, you want to buy milk? You have to move a ton of steel around at homicidal speeds. In Europe, you want to buy milk? You walk for the same amount of time—or less—and you buy it from the shops.
"Town planning fail" happens when you think that the car is an important and necessary part of modern life. It's not. It's useful that some people have cars; but to think it should be convenient for everyone to drive most of the time is foolishness.
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The European design wastes a lot less petrol than the American design
Um, no. We waste absolutely no petrol; we waste gas here in America.
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Singapore for example with so little space has pioneered high rise cheap parking for all out in the suburbs and electronic pay to enter town centers that really increased the quality of life in the inner city, or so I hear.
Here you've just shown you dont have a clue what you're on about.
Singapore is about the worst example you could pick. Owning a car in Singapore is incredibly expensive. You have to pay up to 150% of the cars value when you by it, import duties are 41% and that's before registration and road taxes. For a small car (engine displacement less than 1.6L) you're going to be paying about S$15,000 just to have a car you can drive on the road. Singapore has very few traffic problems because they make owning a car co
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you're going to be paying about S$15,000 just to have a car you can drive on the road.
That's per month as well.
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12,000 USD per *month*?! I could *buy* a lightly used car around here for that same amount!
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Having lived in "HDB land" suburbs of Singapore, I do know that cars are expensive there (in the top ten with London [jalopnik.com]) which is to be expected given the limited space. That does not stop more Singaporeans having a car than the roads can support though (see link).
However I was talking about the good town planning at least as far as the car park facilities go. For every X HDB blocks and number of residents they have planned and provided a high rise parking facility that is very reasonably priced Vs incomes th
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They also have to buy a license to own a car which costs thousands of dollars a year. I'm not knocking Singapore's solution but it's hardly shocking that if you charge people thousands to be allowe to buy a car and then again to use the city roads you can afford to buy public parking. The
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Yeah and even back then Nero wanted to burn it down and rebuild it because he thought the city design was too old.
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Did you notice that "congestion pricing" was only a part of the solution. Another part was providing places to park away from the center, with good transit connections to good transit. There are other parts to making it a good solution, which basicly come under the ruberic of "pedestrian amenities", though you could include bicycles, too. Do note, however, that bicycle amenities are often very different from pedestrian amenities.
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ten years on, no one is proposing scrapping or diluting the congestion charge.
They expanded the congestion charge area in London and then reduced it again (brining it back to it's original size).
Re:Town planning - lack of. (Score:4, Insightful)
Well, seeing as this is London, and was "planned" over hundreds of years, I don't think that criticism works as well as you think.
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As for London being healthier, don't make me laugh. Most of the air pollution comes from diesel vehicles, and those are precisely the ones (e.g. taxis, buses and lorries) which continue to drive in the city. If there's been any reduction, it's due to better engines, not 'we made congestion' tax.
London is much better than it used to be. London now has the world's largest fleet of hybrid buses, there's a massive charge for brining an old diesel lorry into the LEZ, but unfortunately nothing has changed regarding taxis, and they're by far the worst offender (especially as they drive round or idle while empty for a good portion of their time).
Busy, Busy World (Score:2, Funny)
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should I send a dozen tweets sending the cops to the opposite side of the city?
Yes don't worry for your car, the folks from opposite corners of the city will take care of sending its pics.
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Because they ticket you for any nuisance thing you can do. It's impossible to drive in Rome or anywhere in Italy and not get a ticket for something. It's a revenue stream because nobody is going to argue against it. Why? We all know how good the Italian Justice system is, right? [reuters.com] You'd have a better chance arguing your case in the Coliseum in front of a pride of hungry lions.
When driving in Rome the old saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans do." applies otherwise you'll get into an accident but then aga
Failure (Score:2)
2.7 million residents, 1.9 million private vehicles and they got about 30 complaints per day? In the world of social media, that's a pretty big failure.
Wrong ration (Score:2)
I don't find that staggering. What I do find staggering is that the seems to be a ratio of about 70 cars per every parking space. Rome is a place where triple parking is pretty much routine.
Re:Wrong ration (Score:4, Interesting)
I don't find that staggering. What I do find staggering is that the seems to be a ratio of about 70 cars per every parking space. Rome is a place where triple parking is pretty much routine.
Rome has enormous public transportation problems for 2 main reasons :
- one is that its surface public bus fleet is seriously small for a city that in extension is second to London.
- building a subway network is very difficult not for engineering problems but for historical problems. The Law makes it impossible to continue an engineering project should you end up coming into contact with ancient Roman ruins. And digging in Rome is a guarantee that you'll end up upon some ancient Roman ruins. So each time you want to build a garage, a new subway station it is a roll of dice. And when the works stops you can't destroy the ruins to continue the engineering project, you are not allow to move the ruins etc... So it all ends un in a standstill for years or decades to come. This is one aspect where fanatical respect for historical ruins is seriously harming any evolution of Rome as a city. Sometimes you need to let go of ancient things to build for the present. And that's not the case in Italy. The past takes precedence over the present. And so you end up in these absurd situations where Roman ruins end up having more "rights" than modern roman citizens do. With the consequence that living in Rome is hell. I can guarentee that no Roman likes living in Rome. Tourists yeah but they only stay 1-2 weeks. Day to day life in Rome is hell. Think Atlanta snow congested caos every single day of the year. It would drive crazy anybody.
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So build surface transit. Many European cities have large networks of surface light rail (trams) which can transport several times as many people as a bus, and dozens of times as many people as a car. (Zurich, for instance, has over half the population of Rome and NO subways, and is commonly regarded as the world's best city for public transportation, because of its trams.) But Rome has only a handful of tram lines, none of which really penetrate into the central city. Meanwhile there are many multi-lane ro
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How do you get from those deep subway tunnels to the surface? Also, since Rome is fairly near sea level, and near the sea, those deep subway tunnels are also going to be underwater. This makes things much more expensive.
The solution in Roman times was, IIRC, to ban vehicles on the streets during daylight hours. I don't really think you need to ban bicycles, but Rome *is* the city on seven hills, so I doubt that bicycle use will be a popular as in flatter cities.
Perhaps an elevated railway could be made t
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Shit, I guess London got it wrong then since they built the Underground and only being about 49 feet above sea level. I mean, right next to the Thames river and all. Oh wait, Rome does have a subway system [romeinformation.info] because even though it's only about 43 feet above sea level at the Pantheon, it's over 15 miles from the Ocean. The big problem with Rome and public transit are public transit strikes leaving everybody without a car trying to get to work. Strikes are such a big problem, there's even websites warning yo [summerinitaly.com]
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GP is poorly worded but it's of course rather expensive to tear down and rebuild chunks of city.
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The city center yes, but large parts of Rome are early-to-mid-20th-century monstrosities that suffer for the opposite reason: they were built with the expectation of people driving everywhere, and have poor transit or walkability. Big roads that endanger pedestrians and bicyclists, and encourage people to drive into the city rather than taking another option. The EUR area [wikipedia.org] is particularly bad.
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Hahaha! Fining Italians? (Score:1)
In a country where almost no one pays their taxes (rendering it unenforceable) why pay fines too?
The solution is obvious (Score:3)
Just open up for private companies to tow illegally parked cars and make money (huge fees) from the towing and storage of the vehicles. With hundreds of such companies hunting for illegally parked cars and thus money, the streets will be clear in no time, and all the parking assholes will have learned an expensive lesson. To prevent abuse all towing must be documented using photos showing the parking offense, a copy of which are sent to the offender.
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Government getting money != working (Score:3, Insightful)
The new system, which was created by Raffaele Clemente, Rome's chief of traffic police, seems to be working.
I would argue if it were working then they wouldn't be getting many such tweets. Perfaps you forget aim is not to give more itations but fewer illegal parkings. All we can say is it might work.
crowd-sourcing of traffic enforcement (Score:1)
It's more just: No observers of an infraction, no problem, regardless of the letter of the law.
I'd just add a reputation based moderation system to supress malice.
That worked well in nazi germany (Score:2)
Where nearly everyone spied on everyone else. You never knew who was watching and reporting, so you assumed everyone was.
Photoshop (Score:1)
For the the modern joe-job.
Unless its an actual officer with an issued camera, the picture means nothing.
1984 all over again (Score:1)
Am I the only one chilled by the rising use of technology combined with citizens to create a self-police state? What next? Jay walking? Dogs with no leash? Spitting in public?
Will we not be satisfied until everyone has a camera, and they're pointed at everyone else, and every single infraction we all do daily is continually reported until we are all in jail? That's where it ends up, in my purposely exaggerated to prove a point scenario.
And sorry for posting as AC, but you know...tin foil hat and all th
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There is nothing more dangerous than the perfect enforcement of imperfect laws
I did not know (Score:2)
that it was possible to park illegally in Roma. I thought every empty spot was fair game.
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Since when is a license plate private? It's as public as the number on your house, and Google Street already put those online.
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America is litigation land, and they just don't want the hassle of any frivolous lawsuits.
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It's not a fantasy; until recently it was an established legal principle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B... [wikipedia.org]
Re:Privacy Risks (Score:5, Insightful)
At risk of being put online? Don't people risk exposing their license plates every time they back out of the garage?
I think the real concern is, "This just puts millions of illegally parking individuals at risk of being publicly shamed."
The best protection for any one concerned their license plate may end up online seems pretty simple and obvious: think ahead, be considerate, and don't park like an asshole.
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(one of) the other concerns is Police Work as Social Media Gamification.
It's like Ender's Game - They can turn it into some kind of dehumanized gamification contest, whereas until now people had a bit of slack leeway.
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Re:Privacy Risks (Score:5, Informative)
A picture is often more useful than a verbal complaint when the police are evaluating whether a given parking situation actually is a violation, and the exact location where it occurred.
And for citizens armed with a cellphone camera and Twitter, it's faster for them to post a pic than to sit on the non-emergency line for several minutes, first on hold for 5 minutes, then some more minutes to describe the vehicle and the location.
Re:Privacy Risks (Score:4, Insightful)
Why not just use the non-emergency number that most police agencies have to report a parking infraction?
Because this provides photographic proof of the bad parking before they send out a meter maid.
This just puts millions of license plates at risk of being put online for the purpose of reporting a person's supposedly bad parking.
Never quite understood this whole 'privacy of license plates' thing. If I look out the window right now I can see a dozen+ license plates. If I went for a walk I'd see hundreds. How is it private if there are two of them on every car for everyone to see?
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Never quite understood this whole 'privacy of license plates' thing. If I look out the window right now I can see a dozen+ license plates. If I went for a walk I'd see hundreds. How is it private if there are two of them on every car for everyone to see?
It's not about making license plates more private, it's about limiting the places one can find instances of the plate. I wouldn't want someone to know that I was located somewhere at a certain time for whatever reason. What if I park somewhere and the guy that parks in the spot next to me does something stupid that warrants one of these images to be sent to the police department and my car happens to be visible in the picture?
I just dislike databases upon databases of our information that we can't control.
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Never quite understood this whole 'privacy of license plates' thing. If I look out the window right now I can see a dozen+ license plates. If I went for a walk I'd see hundreds. How is it private if there are two of them on every car for everyone to see?
It's not about making license plates more private, it's about limiting the places one can find instances of the plate. I wouldn't want someone to know that I was located somewhere at a certain time for whatever reason. What if I park somewhere and the guy that parks in the spot next to me does something stupid that warrants one of these images to be sent to the police department and my car happens to be visible in the picture?
I just dislike databases upon databases of our information that we can't control.
The only way to solve your paranoia is to take public transportation. The chances that someone might take a picture that has your car in it is very good these days. Probably still slim it will happen, but since most everyone has a camera on their cell phone, yes, the chances are greater.
But lets be real. No one gives a fuck about you, no one cares where you are at, and if they did, they wouldn't need random strangers to post pics of your car online, they'd just have someone following you.
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But lets be real. No one gives a fuck about you, no one cares where you are at, and if they did, they wouldn't need random strangers to post pics of your car online, they'd just have someone following you.
Do you apply this same logic to the NSA? Government abuses of power are very real, and while *you* may not be a target, someone else will be. History shows that many millions of times over.
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I just dislike databases upon databases of our information that we can't control.
One of the first steps in treating these things is to surrender to those things out of your control and become accepting of them.
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Most no parking areas are determined by the need to keep roadways clear for things like emergency vehicles (fire lanes), or to keep the roadway safe for other motorists (e.g. no parking too close to a corner, intersection or bus stop).
There's certainly exceptions -- my neighborhood has no parking signs on streets to just make for a pretty neighborhood, but that's a HOA thing, something I could easily fight, and something I opted into when I moved here.
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Never quite understood this whole 'privacy of license plates' thing. If I look out the window right now I can see a dozen+ license plates. If I went for a walk I'd see hundreds. How is it private if there are two of them on every car for everyone to see?
The word privacy has multiple definitions. In this case, the apropriate definition is ephemeral. You looking at a license plate informs one person, you, about the time and location of that plate. You posting a picture of that online creates a perment record that potentially millions of people can access.
It is the same thing as using a debit card and the clerk looking at the card number versus the POS computer making a permanent record of the card number. The first is a very small risk, the second is es
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Not just Italy- Greece, Turkey, Croatia, Austria, Hungary, Czech Republic. I can't vouch for anything west of Italy, but insane parking and driving is all over Europe to the east.
Re:It's EVERYWHERE, Hungary (Score:1)
> Not just Italy - Greece, Turkey, Croatia, Austria, Hungary, Czech Republic.
As for Hungary, here is a clue. During communism (1948-1989) there was a thing called COMECON. It decided centrally what each soviet-satellite state of Eastern-Central Europe was allowed to do economically. Complaining against silly decisions was pointless, as there were 200k soldiers, 1000 tanks, 400 warplanes and 50 nuke missiles garrisoned by the russkies, in Hungary alone. Anyhow, COMECON has decided Hungary was not allowed
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First of all, I don't think Italy have anyone seeking asylum in Russia at the moment, to avoid "enhanced interrogation" and potentially the death penalty. So much for the scary socialist state, eh?
Secondly, the point of law enforcement is to enforce the law. If citizens are informing the law enforcement officers when the law is broken, what makes that inherently socialist? Do you come from one of those neighborhoods where you don't talk to the "pigs" because they represent "the man"?
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I think you just proved my point with Snowden. Governments have too much control over people as it is; we don't need to give them more. I think we agree on that. Governments only have control when we want them to. My ancestors and state fought long and hard to throw off an oppressive government and take up the mantle of sovereignty ourselves.
I come from a neighborhood where people mind their own business, because it is their own. I like my privacy and to be left alone. My neighbors like the same thing
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So wait - you think reporting a crime to the police so they can investigate it is "tattling"? What are you? 8 years old?
You see some thugs mugging an old woman - move along, none of your business. You see someone breaking into your neighbor's house - leave it alone, I'm sure they value their privacy.
I simply can't understand the mentality that says if you see someone doing something wrong you just let them carry on. Baffling.
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HAHAHA. You don't understand the difference between statutory regulations and criminal law. Go look up the difference between the two and come back and have an informed discussion. What are you 7 years old? -- insults are not necessary. Just become informed of how law works and then we can talk. Here is a hint. Who is the plaintiff in both, what is the burden of proof in both. Who is the injured party in both? How and why? Who brings action against the accused? I never said that when someone is b
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HAHAHA. You don't understand the difference between statutory regulations and criminal law. Go look up the difference between the two and come back and have an informed discussion.
So regulations can be ignored.
By the sounds of it you are the one who needs to go and look up what a regulation is and how not following them can become a criminal offence.
The city of Rome do have a right to determine how people park, it's not a free for all. Above this, think about a persons business and having some arsehole park where customers usually sit/stand or in parking space that business has reserved (read: paid for) for his customers. Because that's where the majority of these complaints a
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And your point? Its called freedom. Now, you can get back on the bus.
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To make the people feel like their Police/Government is listening to them and will actually do something perhaps?
But yes, you can stumble 10 feet in almost any direction and find vehicles parked and abandoned all over Rome. What's even funnier are the motor scooters that you know have been locked to that lamentable light pole or bike rack for months and are damaged or covered in 2 inches of dust. It's like the Owner forgot all about them.
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He obviously meant Photoshop real life :)